# Botticelli - March 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [February 27, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978 "2017-02-27T20:47:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/181 "2017-03-12T20:20:00Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you die in a helicopter crash, although you were first famous many years earlier? - Yes, Francis Gary Powers, former U-2 pilot (and Botticelli subject)  
Did you costar in _Hart to Hart_? - Stephanie Powers  
Did you play cello at the White House for JFK? - Yes, Pablo Casals: [https://www.jfklibrary.org/~/media/assets/Foundation/White%20House%20Entertaining/ST-M3-2-61%20original.jpg](https://www.jfklibrary.org/~/media/assets/Foundation/White%20House%20Entertaining/ST-M3-2-61%20original.jpg)

DQ:

Main character of the work of fiction in which you first appeared?

IQs:

Did Jack Bauer try to prevent your assassination?  
Were you the doomed homecoming queen of Twin Peaks, Wash.?  
Did Ike once unexpectedly drop by for a weekend with you?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/182 "2017-03-12T21:46:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did Jack Bauer try to prevent your assassination?  
> Were you the doomed homecoming queen of Twin Peaks, Wash.?  
> Did Ike once unexpectedly drop by for a weekend with you?

Three DQs.

**P**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name starts with P
4. American
5. Could be alive today, if real
6. Usually considered a “good guy”
7. From Literature
8. Has appeared in a movie
9. Did not first appear in or after 1975
10. Not crime/mystery genre
11. First appeared after 1899
12. Did not first appear after 1950
13. From mainstream fiction (not science fiction, fantasy, mystery, western, etc.)
14. Not the main character of the work of fiction in which I first appeared

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/183 "2017-03-12T22:35:09Z")

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DQ: Are you an antagonist?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/184 "2017-03-12T22:45:50Z")

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{uh-oh. Somebody needs to ask if this is Prose literature, rather than poetry or a play.}

IQs:

1. Did Astrid Lindgren write about you?
2. Were your first written words “Didja think I was a cowboy?”
3. Are you the title character of a poem by William Langland?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/185 "2017-03-12T23:48:14Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did Astrid Lindgren write about you?
> 2. Were your first written words “Didja think I was a cowboy?”
> 3. Are you the title character of a poem by William Langland?

Not Pippi Longstocking.  
DQ.  
Not … Piers Ploughman?

**P**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name starts with P
4. American
5. Could be alive today, if real
6. Usually considered a “good guy”
7. From Literature
8. Has appeared in a movie
9. Did not first appear in or after 1975
10. Not crime/mystery genre
11. First appeared after 1899
12. Did not first appear after 1950
13. From mainstream fiction (not science fiction, fantasy, mystery, western, etc.)
14. Not the main character of the work of fiction in which I first appeared
15. Not an antagonist

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/186 "2017-03-13T00:36:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did Astrid Lindgren write about you?
> 2. Were your first written words “Didja think I was a cowboy?”
> 3. Are you the title character of a poem by William Langland?  
> Not Pippi Longstocking.  
> DQ.  
> Not … Piers Ploughman?

Correct, Popeye the Sailor Man, Correct.

(In the _Thimble Theatre_ comic strip, Castor Oyl was the main character. He went on a treasure hunt, needed a boat and a crew. He saw one dismal figure on the dock and asked “Pardon me, are you a sailor?” and Popeye soon overtook the strip.)

DQ: From a work of prose fiction?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/187 "2017-03-13T00:39:29Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you star in the 1940 version of _The Mark of Zorro_?
2. Did you star with Robert Wagner in _Hart to Hart_?
3. Were you Underdog’s girlfriend?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/188 "2017-03-13T00:53:58Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you star in the 1940 version of _The Mark of Zorro_?
> 2. Did you star with Robert Wagner in _Hart to Hart_?
> 3. Were you Underdog’s girlfriend?

DQ.  
Still not Stephanie Powers.  
Not Sweet Polly Purebred.

**P**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name starts with P
4. American
5. Could be alive today, if real
6. Usually considered a “good guy”
7. From Literature
8. Has appeared in a movie
9. Did not first appear in or after 1975
10. Not crime/mystery genre
11. First appeared after 1899
12. Did not first appear after 1950
13. From mainstream fiction (not science fiction, fantasy, mystery, western, etc.)
14. Not the main character of the work of fiction in which I first appeared
15. Not an antagonist
16. From a work of prose fiction

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/189 "2017-03-13T02:27:33Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you write _The Golden Compass_?
2. Did you star in an all-black Broadway production of _Hello, Dolly_?
3. Were you nominated for an Oscar for your performance in _Being There_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/190 "2017-03-13T02:38:56Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write _The Golden Compass_?
> 2. Did you star in an all-black Broadway production of _Hello, Dolly_?
> 3. Were you nominated for an Oscar for your performance in _Being There_?

Not Philip Pullman.  
DQ.  
DQ.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/191 "2017-03-13T03:06:12Z")

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DQ: Considered to be middle aged?

2 DQs left

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/192 "2017-03-13T04:09:01Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did Jack Bauer try to prevent your assassination? - David Palmer, on _24_  
Were you the doomed homecoming queen of Twin Peaks, Wash.? - Laura Palmer  
Did Ike once unexpectedly drop by for a weekend with you? - Arnold Palmer

Palmer x3!

DQs:

Sidekick to the protagonist?  
Associated with NYC?  
Signature role for any actor who played him?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/193 "2017-03-13T10:58:39Z")

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**P**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name starts with P
4. American
5. Could be alive today, if real
6. Usually considered a “good guy”
7. From Literature
8. Has appeared in a movie
9. Did not first appear in or after 1975
10. Not crime/mystery genre
11. First appeared after 1899
12. Did not first appear after 1950
13. From mainstream fiction (not science fiction, fantasy, mystery, western, etc.)
14. Not the main character of the work of fiction in which I first appeared
15. Not an antagonist
16. From a work of prose fiction
17. Not considered to be middle aged
18. Supporting character in the book and first movie, but not really a sidekick to the protagonist
19. Not associated with NYC
20. Not a signature role for any actor who played him  
Wow - twenty already? I’ll give you (EH, KO, and Prof P) until … tomorrow evening should be enough … to ask your “Are you FirstName LastName” final DQs: 6:30 Eastern, Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/194 "2017-03-13T11:51:18Z")

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DQ: Are you Joel Pepper from _The Five Little Peppers and How They Grew_ and later books in the series?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/195 "2017-03-13T12:16:32Z")

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My best guess is Alex Portnoy, but he doesn’t fulfill all the DQ criteria. Whoever wants my guess can have it.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/196 "2017-03-13T12:30:37Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> DQ: Are you Joel Pepper from _The Five Little Peppers and How They Grew_ and later books in the series?

Re DQ8: Probably much better known from film than from the book(s).

I had meant to post this last night, Prof, so if you want to reword your DQ before I answer it…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/197 "2017-03-13T12:44:35Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Re DQ8: Probably much better known from film than from the book(s).
> 
> I had meant to post this last night, Prof, so if you want to reword your DQ before I answer it…

Yes, please. I’ll think on it some more.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/198 "2017-03-13T16:38:18Z")

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Can’t think of any character who fits all these clues. Hmm. Think think think…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/199 "2017-03-13T18:56:03Z")

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DQ: Are you Ensign Pulver from _Mister Roberts_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2017/780978/200 "2017-03-13T21:33:14Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> DQ: Are you Ensign Pulver from _Mister Roberts_?

Well, I almost got away with it. 😃 Yes, I am Ens. Frank Thurlowe **P** ulver, USN, supporting character in book, film, and television\*\*\*\*\* versions of _Mister Roberts_, and star\*\*\*\*\*\* of my own movie, _Ensign Pulver_.

- Played by Jack Lemmon in 1955, by Kevin Bacon in 1984, and by Steve Harmon on TV  
\*\* Played by Robert Walker Jr.

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