# Botticelli - March 2018 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [March 2, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880 "2018-03-02T12:39:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/201 "2018-03-19T13:53:34Z")
S. 1. real 2. not American 3. male 4. alive 5. not born after 1960 6. European 7. not British or Irish 8. last name starts with S 9. not known for the Arts 10. native speaker of a Romance language 11. not known for politics or military 12. French or Italian ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/202 "2018-03-19T14:08:38Z")
IQs: 1. Did you write the play _No Exit_? 2. Did you write the book _The Second Sex_? 3. Did you write the comic strip _Peanuts_? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/203 "2018-03-19T14:24:56Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did you write the play _No Exit_? > 2. Did you write the book _The Second Sex_? > 3. Did you write the comic strip _Peanuts_? Not Jean-Paul Sartre, Simone de Beauvoir (sp?) or Charles Shultz. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/204 "2018-03-19T14:28:58Z")
Correct x3. IQs: 1. Did you write the baby care book that a great many Baby Boomers were raised by? 2. Did you invent the Extremis Armor? 3. Did you used to host _The Daily Show_? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/205 "2018-03-19T15:07:02Z")
DQ: Primarily known for a business or service? One DQ left ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/206 "2018-03-19T18:31:09Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not the other Sully (just saw the Tom Hanks movie, as it happens), Solomon Grundy or… Mr. Schlitz? All correct - I was thinking of Samuel Adams for the third, but Joseph Schlitz is a better answer (it appears Mr Adams was a maltster rather than a brewer). IQ: Did your uncle murder your father and exile you, but you ultimately returned to triumph over him? IQ: Are you a controversial Italian politician? IQ: Are you a former president of the IOC? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/207 "2018-03-19T20:40:40Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > … > > IQs: > > 1. Did you write the baby care book that a great many Baby Boomers were raised by? > 2. Did you invent the Extremis Armor? > 3. Did you used to host _The Daily Show_? Not Dr. Spock, dunno, and not Jon Stewart. > [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > … > > IQ: Did your uncle murder your father and exile you, but you ultimately returned to triumph over him? > IQ: Are you a controversial Italian politician? > IQ: Are you a former president of the IOC? Not… Sargon? Not Silvio Berlusconi or Juan-Antonio Samarranch (sp?). S. 1. real 2. not American 3. male 4. alive 5. not born after 1960 6. European 7. not British or Irish 8. last name starts with S 9. not known for the Arts 10. native speaker of a Romance language 11. not known for politics or military 12. French or Italian 13. not primarily known for a business or service ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/208 "2018-03-19T20:56:44Z")
Pending DQs: - Are you French? - Known from sports\> ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/209 "2018-03-19T21:46:07Z")
> [@](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did you write the baby care book that a great many Baby Boomers were raised by? > 2. Did you invent the Extremis Armor? > 3. Did you used to host The Daily Show? > Not Dr. Spock, dunno, and not Jon Stewart. Correct, Tony “Iron Man” Stark, correct. 1 DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/210 "2018-03-20T02:39:29Z")
S. 1. real 2. not American 3. male 4. alive 5. not born after 1960 6. European 7. not British or Irish 8. last name starts with S 9. not known for the Arts 10. native speaker of a Romance language 11. not known for politics or military 12. French or Italian 13. not primarily known for a business or service 14. Italian 15. not known from sports ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/211 "2018-03-20T05:43:30Z")
DQ: Known primarily for a single event? 0 DQ left ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/212 "2018-03-20T10:58:59Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not… Sargon? Not Silvio Berlusconi or Juan-Antonio Samarranch (sp?). I looked up Sargon and I don’t think he meets the stated criteria. I was shooting for Simba aka The Lion King :). Correct on the other 2. DQ: a religious figure? If yes, I’m wondering if this is a cardinal at the Vatican, in which case I don’t think I would be able to name them. If no, I’m thinking science is about the only area we haven’t covered yet. Or possibly journalist (or does this come under “the Arts”?). These are questions for the floor rather than for EH, obviously. IQ: Are you chiefly known for having a below average number of legs? IQ: Were you the creator of the previous answer? IQ: Did you famously have what is perhaps the most and least apposite name considering your job? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/213 "2018-03-20T12:05:09Z")
Yes, we’ve always defined journalism and writing to be apposite for the Arts. 🙂 Learned a new word. IQ1: Are you QB for the Detroit Lions? IQ2: Are you the head coach of the New Orleans Saints? IQ3: Are you the head coach of the Los Angeles Rams? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/214 "2018-03-20T13:19:51Z")
I’m not sure. We’ve had nonfiction writers who weren’t considered to be part of the Arts. IQs: 1. Are you a Mexican restaurant owner who’s appeared as a judge regularly on _Chopped_? 2. Were you the host of _The Frugal Gourmet_? 3. Did you appear topless in _Two Nights with Cleopatra_? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/215 "2018-03-20T15:43:38Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > I looked up Sargon and I don’t think he meets the stated criteria. I was shooting for Simba aka The Lion King :)… You’re not supposed to do any research in this game unless you’re the GM and want to make sure you answer an IQ accurately. Next time, please rephrase and ask a new IQ. > [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > … > > IQ: Are you chiefly known for having a below average number of legs? > IQ: Were you the creator of the previous answer? > IQ: Did you famously have what is perhaps the most and least apposite name considering your job? Dunno x3. > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > … > > IQ1: Are you QB for the Detroit Lions? > IQ2: Are you the head coach of the New Orleans Saints? > IQ3: Are you the head coach of the Los Angeles Rams? Ditto. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > … > > IQs: > > 1. Are you a Mexican restaurant owner who’s appeared as a judge regularly on _Chopped_? > 2. Were you the host of _The Frugal Gourmet_? > 3. Did you appear topless in _Two Nights with Cleopatra_? And ditto yet again! Not my day. Why don’t you each ask two DQs, which will take us to 23 answered DQs, and then we’ll move into the final round. S. 1. real 2. not American 3. male 4. alive 5. not born after 1960 6. European 7. not British or Irish 8. last name starts with S 9. not known for the Arts 10. native speaker of a Romance language 11. not known for politics or military 12. French or Italian 13. not primarily known for a business or service 14. Italian 15. not known from sports 16. known primarily for a single event 17. not a religious figure ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/216 "2018-03-20T15:48:44Z")
> [@](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Are you a Mexican restaurant owner who’s appeared as a judge regularly on Chopped? > 2. Were you the host of The Frugal Gourmet? > 3. Did you appear topless in Two Nights with Cleopatra? #1 is Aaron Sanchez. #2 was Fred Smith. #3 was Sophia Loren. The 2 DQs each plan is good for me. DQs: 1. Known for criminal activity? 2. Known for writing? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/217 "2018-03-20T17:07:44Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > IQ1: Are you QB for the Detroit Lions? > IQ2: Are you the head coach of the New Orleans Saints? > IQ3: Are you the head coach of the Los Angeles Rams? Matthew Stafford, Sean Payton, Sean McVay holding ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/218 "2018-03-20T17:10:29Z")
S. 1. real 2. not American 3. male 4. alive 5. not born after 1960 6. European 7. not British or Irish 8. last name starts with S 9. not known for the Arts 10. native speaker of a Romance language 11. not known for politics or military 12. French or Italian 13. not primarily known for a business or service 14. Italian 15. not known from sports 16. known primarily for a single event 17. not a religious figure 18. known, in a way, for criminal activity 19. not known for writing ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/219 "2018-03-20T17:14:25Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > You’re not supposed to do any research in this game unless you’re the GM and want to make sure you answer an IQ accurately. Next time, please rephrase and ask a new IQ. I don’t think this works. Given we allow the answerer to guess at IQs if they are not sure (and I fully support this), how are we supposed to know if such a guess is a valid answer (unless we happen to be certain that it’s not)? In other words, why shouldn’t an incorrect guess such as this immediately earn a DQ? What is the harm to the integrity of the game by doing research after the question has been asked and answered? On the same subject, I have to say I really dislike IQs of the form “You are not X…” followed by repeating the same (usually, correctly answered) IQ from before. It strikes me as a cheap shot - it’s not “rephrasing” the question, it’s restating the question with the exclusion of a valid answer. I think we should either seek to rephrase the question in a different way so as to point more or less uniquely at the target, or give up and move on. I guess we just like to play the game in slightly different ways - not so much that we can’t co-exist in the same game, I just wonder what the consensus is? > [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > IQ: Are you chiefly known for having a below average number of legs? > IQ: Were you the creator of the previous answer? > IQ: Did you famously have what is perhaps the most and least apposite name considering your job? These were Long John Silver, Robert Louis Stevenson, and Cardinal Sin. Happy to reserve 2 DQs, as suggested. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880/220 "2018-03-20T17:19:15Z")
Sorry for the double post, didn’t see the last couple. I surmise our target is someone who was somehow involved in a criminal activity but were not the criminal themselves, e.g. the train driver in the Great Train Robbery or Christine Keeler in the Profumo affair (neither of whom is Italian). Or, perhaps, a lawyer. Anything to do with the Meredith Kercher case? I can’t remember the names of the accused but at least one of those was an Italian named Raffael something, I think. I can’t remember if he was cleared on appeal (and therefore not a criminal) or currently doing time. DQ: are you in the legal profession? One more DQ reserved. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-march-2018/809880.md?page=12)