# Botticelli, May 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [May 22, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753 "2011-05-22T04:09:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/41 "2011-05-23T02:07:33Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Clarification: Yes, you are female? Or no, you are male?

I am male. The numbered answers to DQs will be directly descriptive.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/42 "2011-05-23T02:10:22Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> A logistical question - I have played Botticelli many times on long drives while on tour, and the ‘house rules’ are always slightly different. I’m assuming that when we stump the Chooser, we must name the person that we had in mind.
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> That being said, are we allowed to ask the same kind of indirect question more than once? I have played where the game was structured rather like Hangman - we couldn’t repeat a category, and once we couldn’t come up with an unused category, the Chooser was declared the winner. I have also played where you could keep repeating a category - composers beginning with ‘B’, for example, is a pretty rich field.
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> I will abide by whatever the Chooser declares…

Good questions.

Yes, you must name who you had in mind if you stump me with an IQ.

You may ask the same kind of indirect question, and you may repeat a category. However, you can’t ask twice about the same individual (if the letter was W, for instance, you couldn’t ask both, “Were you the first President of the U.S.?” and “Was your house called Mount Vernon?”).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/43 "2011-05-23T02:11:26Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Are you a poet who lived about four centuries before Herodotus?

No, I’m not Heraclitus.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/44 "2011-05-23T02:13:44Z")

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> [@Roland\_Orzabal](#):
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> Good guess, but nope. Hector (of Troy).
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> DQ: Are you the leader/monarch of a nation or empire?

1. Born _after_ 100 BCE.
2. Male.
3. Not the leader/monarch of a nation or empire.

PLEASE NOTE: My answer to #1 has changed. Sorry - mental glitch. Honestly, don’t read any more into it than that.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/45 "2011-05-23T02:20:30Z")

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Would you let the jackass bray?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/46 "2011-05-23T02:24:35Z")

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Were you an acclaimed poet of Rome?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/47 "2011-05-23T02:34:37Z")

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Very well, then.

IQ: Are you a composer?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/48 "2011-05-23T02:36:34Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Would you let the jackass bray?

> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Were you an acclaimed poet of Rome?

Dunno as to each of these. You may ask DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/49 "2011-05-23T02:37:58Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Very well, then.
> 
> IQ: Are you a composer?

No, I’m not Henry Mancini.

The more specific an IQ you ask, the better for you.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/50 "2011-05-23T02:39:15Z")

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Horace.

Are you American?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/51 "2011-05-23T02:45:38Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno as to each of these. You may ask DQs.

Harry Bellafonte.

Are you alive?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/52 "2011-05-23T03:14:43Z")

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Could we use a man like you again?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/53 "2011-05-23T04:07:41Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> Could we use a man like you again?

No, I’m not Harry Truman.

Please be sure to designate each question as an IQ or DQ.

1. Born after 100 BCE
2. Male
3. Not the leader/monarch of a nation or empire
4. American
5. Dead

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/54 "2011-05-23T04:09:54Z")

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Interesting. So 1 is effectively changed to born after 1776.

IQ: Did you have the White House wired for electricity?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/55 "2011-05-23T04:09:55Z")

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IQ: Were you one of Les Six?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/56 "2011-05-23T04:11:56Z")

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IQ: Did you help the CIA to recover a Soviet submarine?

(NB: I’ll be back tomorrow evening.)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/57 "2011-05-23T06:36:45Z")

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IQ: Did you lose half your hand in a pyrotechnic mishap?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/58 "2011-05-23T09:26:35Z")

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Did you stand 6-foot-3 and 3/4 inches tall, wear a size 7 fedora and size 4.7 x 9.4 x 3 inch Kleenex boxes?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/59 "2011-05-23T12:34:36Z")

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The OP has indirectly answered a query I had, which was are they allowed to answer IQs with people whose first names begin with the chosen letter.

IQ: Are you an Austrian goalkeeper who has played in the English Premier League?

Having played both versions of this game, I think I prefer the one where you name both initials, and all IQs also have to fit both initials, with the proviso that you allow both questioners and the chooser to research their questions and answers (it becomes too difficult otherwise). That makes for more possible games, and requires more guile in constructing questions - you have to do so in such a way that it is difficult for the chooser to Google the answer, but so that the question still clearly refers to one person - if you know of that person.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2011/582753/60 "2011-05-23T13:54:28Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Interesting. So 1 is effectively changed to born after 1776.
> 
> IQ: Did you have the White House wired for electricity?

No, I’m not Benjamin Harrison.

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