# Botticelli - May, 2013

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [May 2, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330 "2013-05-02T17:37:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/21 "2013-05-03T03:30:07Z")

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???

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/22 "2013-05-03T03:34:27Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> ???

It’s a nongame question. It’s joke on “You’re a peein’”.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/23 "2013-05-03T03:49:52Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Joseph Brant was an Indian chief around the time of the American Revolution, IIRC.

FTR, I’m another who knew who Joseph Brant was.

Having trouble thinking of IQs though.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/24 "2013-05-03T04:10:40Z")

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Yes, Brant was a Mohawk chief around the time of the Revolution.

Another question for y’all: You are Sitting Bull, and someone asks “Does your first name start with ‘S’?” How do you answer that?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/25 "2013-05-03T04:11:44Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> What was he before, and after, he was in the bathroom? 😃

> [@etv78](#):
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> It’s a nongame question. It’s joke on “You’re a peein’”.

Go find a stick and whack yourself with it a few times, please. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/26 "2013-05-03T04:18:31Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> No idea.  
> Assuming that IQ2 should read “new regulations,” I’m not Upton Sinclair.  
> I’m going to take a guess and say: Not Lt Uhura.

Sinclair, Uhura, and your correction are all correct. The musician was Metallica drumer Lars Ulrich.

DQ: Are you a political figure?

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> How do you do a strike-out in this forum? I thought it was /S…

[del]Is it del?[/del] The tag for strikethrough is “del.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/27 "2013-05-03T04:38:31Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did an Oscar-broadcast joke about you and another celebrity flop?  
> Were you born in Point Pleasant but grew up in Georgetown?  
> Did _The Simpsons_ start on your show?

David Letterman did joke introductions across the theater: “Uma… Oprah! Oprah… Uma!”  
This was U.S. Grant, too. Question withdrawn, since **etv78** already asked about him.  
Tracey Ullman.

DQs:

British?  
Died since 1975?  
Notable for just one incident or event?

IQs:

Were you sent by private railway car to where you could do the most harm?  
Were you a Biblical king whose death was used to note a key year?  
Were you a pre-Norman Conquest petty king to whom Conan Doyle may have obliquely referred in a story?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> …Another question for y’all: You are Sitting Bull, and someone asks “Does your first name start with ‘S’?” How do you answer that?

For Botticelli purposes, I think the chief’s answer should be “Yes.”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/28 "2013-05-03T11:53:27Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the Voice of the Swiss Reformation?
2. Were you noted for your 'umility?
3. Were you a 15th Century Italian painter?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/29 "2013-05-03T18:27:07Z")

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I’ll take my second DQ.

DQ: Known for artistic accomplishments, using the standard Doper Botticelli definition of “the arts”?

And some IQs  
IQ1: Are you a film director notorious for terrible adaptations of video games?  
IQ2: Did you write a series of novels about Sparrowhawk?  
IQ3: Did you carry the message that ordered your own murder?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/30 "2013-05-03T18:40:54Z")

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IQ: Are you an author famous for your historical epics?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/31 "2013-05-03T18:43:45Z")

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…and yes, I agree, Sitting Bull starts with an “S”. (But safety begins with U!)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/32 "2013-05-03T21:18:29Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the Voice of the Swiss Reformation?
> 2. Were you noted for your 'umility?
> 3. Were you a 15th Century Italian painter?

Not Ulrich Zwingli.  
2 DQs.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> And some IQs  
> IQ1: Are you a film director notorious for terrible adaptations of video games?  
> IQ2: Did you write a series of novels about Sparrowhawk?  
> IQ3: Did you carry the message that ordered your own murder?

Not Ursula LeGuin.  
2 DQs.

LeGuin popped into my mind just as I was starting to type “3 DQs.” 😃

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you sent by private railway car to where you could do the most harm?  
> Were you a Biblical king whose death was used to note a key year?  
> Were you a pre-Norman Conquest petty king to whom Conan Doyle may have obliquely referred in a story?

3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/33 "2013-05-03T21:23:58Z")

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You people obviously know a lot more _U_s than I do…

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> DQ: Are you a political figure?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQs:
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> British?  
> Died since 1975?  
> Notable for just one incident or event?

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> DQ: Known for artistic accomplishments, using the standard Doper Botticelli definition of “the arts”?

**U**

1. Dead
2. First name (the name I am best known by) starts with ‘U’
3. Male
4. Real
5. Not a religious figure
6. European
7. Political figure
8. Not British
9. Died since 1975
10. Not notable for just one incident or event
11. Not known for artistic accomplishments

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/34 "2013-05-03T21:32:06Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Are you an author famous for your historical epics?

Oops - missed this one.  
DQ.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/35 "2013-05-03T21:35:28Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> …and yes, I agree, Sitting Bull starts with an “S”. (But safety begins with U!)

“Sitting Bull” obviously starts with _S_, yes. The actual question was more like “Would you say that Sitting is his first name, and Bull his last name?”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/36 "2013-05-03T22:18:18Z")

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Considering the number of times the Bat Out Of Hell singer’s been called Mr. Loaf, sure.

Uriah Heep (from Dickens’ David Copperfield) often referred to himself as 'umble; Paolo Uccello was the artist.

I need to squirrel my DQs away until my acorns are in order. Hmmmm.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/37 "2013-05-03T23:13:36Z")

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DQ: Did you come to power democratically?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/38 "2013-05-04T01:35:05Z")

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IQs

1. Were you secretly Shoe-shine Boy?
2. Are you a universally critically panned German director?
3. Did you advise Gilgamesh?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/39 "2013-05-04T02:03:01Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you sent by private railway car to where you could do the most harm?  
> Were you a Biblical king whose death was used to note a key year?  
> Were you a pre-Norman Conquest petty king to whom Conan Doyle may have obliquely referred in a story?

Vladimir Ulyanov AKA Lenin, sent into Russia by the Germans during WWI. Eventually the Bolsheviks pulled Russia out of the war.  
King Uzziah’s death is referred to in the Book of Revelation.  
The island of Uffa is referred to in the Sherlock Holmes story “The Five Orange Pips.”

DQs:

From a country east of the Rhine?  
Served as head of government (prime minister, premier, president, etc.)?

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Were you a Burmese diplomat who held a top UN post?  
Did you spear your friend’s discarded cigar on a city street?  
Did Stephen King say you were a wonderful villain?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2013/657330/40 "2013-05-04T03:43:31Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs
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> 1. Were you secretly Shoe-shine Boy?
> 2. Are you a universally critically panned German director?
> 3. Did you advise Gilgamesh?

Not Underdog or Ut-Napishtim.  
DQ for the director.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you a Burmese diplomat who held a top UN post?  
> Did you spear your friend’s discarded cigar on a city street?  
> Did Stephen King say you were a wonderful villain?

Not U Thant.  
Two DQs.

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