# Botticelli - May 2014

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433
**Category:** Thread Games
**Created:** [May 1, 2014, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433 "2014-05-01T13:15:14Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3

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### Author: ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/41 "2014-05-04T01:45:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> DQs:  
> Male?  
> Last name start with P?
> 
> IQs:  
> Were you Hotlips’s eventual husband?  
> Are you a _cause celebre_ among American Indian activists?  
> Was Liet Kynes an admirer of yours?

DQs  
Yes  
No

IQs:  
2) Not Leonard Peilter  
Take 2 more DQs for the others

Summary:  
P

1. Not real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with P

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/42 "2014-05-04T03:41:07Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did Groucho play you in The History of Mankind?
> 2. Did you stomp on a bug that was giving you advice?
> 3. Are you the hero in a science fiction series with over 2,700 installments?
> 
> 3 DQs for you. #2 sounds familiar but I can’t place it.

#1 was Peter Minuit. #2 is Pinocchio. In the book he stomps the cricket dead when it opposes his running off to join the fun. #3 is Perry Rhodan.

3 DQs reserved for now.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2014, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/43 "2014-05-04T04:12:27Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you Hotlips’s eventual husband? - Donald Penobscot, on the TV show _M_A_S_H\*.  
Are you a _cause celebre_ among American Indian activists? - Yes, Leonard Peltier.  
Was Liet Kynes an admirer of yours? - Paul Atreides, in _Dune_.

DQs:

Would be alive today, if real?  
First appeared in print?

IQs:

Were you a slain Swedish prime minister?  
Did you design the USS _Enterprise_, NCC-1701-D?  
Did you play a dying billionaire, a Boston hoodlum and a scrappy musician?

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2014, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/44 "2014-05-04T11:12:43Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Are you T’challa, son of T’chaka?  
> IQ2: Were you a lesbian acrobat in a secret-agent novel?  
> IQ3: Did you constantly worry about the health of your supposedly fragile nephew, who lived with you after his parents were killed?

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
>
> 1: Take a DQ  
> 2: Not Pussy Galore  
> 3: Take a DQ - unless it’s Petunia Dursley, which I doubt. My recollection is that while she treated Harry less crappy than Vernon and Dudley, she wasn’t very concerned about him.

The Black Panther, from Marvel comics. (Guy I knew in the Navy was named Tchalla - his father had been a member of the Black Panthers.)  
Correct on Pussy Galore.  
May Parker, Spiderman’s aunt.  
DQ1: From a work by an American author?  
One DQ reserved.  
IQ1: Are you a native of Tarsus who changed his name?  
IQ2: Are you the father of York and Wessex?  
IQ3: Did you write “We Can Remember It for You Wholesale”?

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### Author: ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/45 "2014-05-05T03:51:58Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> DQs:
> 
> Would be alive today, if real?  
> First appeared in print?

Yes  
No

> [@](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Were you a slain Swedish prime minister?  
> Did you design the USS _Enterprise_, NCC-1701-D?  
> Did you play a dying billionaire, a Boston hoodlum and a scrappy musician?

3 more DQs

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> DQ1: From a work by an American author?  
> One DQ reserved.

No

> [@](#):
>
> IQ1: Are you a native of Tarsus who changed his name?  
> IQ2: Are you the father of York and Wessex?  
> IQ3: Did you write “We Can Remember It for You Wholesale”?

1. Not St. Paul, formerly known as Saul
2. Take a DQ
3. Not Philip K Dick

Summary:  
P

1. Not real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with P
4. If real, could be alive today
5. Did not first appear in print
6. Not from a work by an American author

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/46 "2014-05-05T03:59:43Z")

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DQs:

1. From a movie?
2. By a British author?
3. Protagonist?

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/47 "2014-05-05T04:01:46Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you a Hanna-Barbera character who explored the world in a hot air balloon?
2. Are you secretly the Amazing Spider-Ham?
3. Are you secretly Wonder Warthog?

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/48 "2014-05-05T11:18:57Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Are you a native of Tarsus who changed his name?  
> IQ2: Are you the father of York and Wessex?  
> IQ3: Did you write “We Can Remember It for You Wholesale”?

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
>
> 1. Not St. Paul, formerly known as Saul
> 2. Take a DQ
> 3. Not Philip K Dick

Correct on St Paul and Philip K Dick.  
The current Duke of York and Earl of Wessex are the younger sons of Prince Philip.  
Two DQs reserved.  
IQ1: Did you lead a raid into New Mexico in 1916?  
IQ2: Did you lead the expedition sent to capture that person?  
IQ3: As a member of that expedition, did you lead the first motorised US military action?

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### Author: ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/49 "2014-05-05T16:16:49Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> DQs:
> 
> 1. From a movie?
> 2. By a British author?
> 3. Protagonist?

1. Not to get all Clintonesque on you, but it depends on the meaning of “from”. Appeared in - yes. Originally appeared in - no
2. Yes
3. Yes

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a Hanna-Barbera character who explored the world in a hot air balloon?
> 2. Are you secretly the Amazing Spider-Ham?
> 3. Are you secretly Wonder Warthog?

1. Not Peter Porker. Take 2 DQs for the others

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Did you lead a raid into New Mexico in 1916?  
> IQ2: Did you lead the expedition sent to capture that person?  
> IQ3: As a member of that expedition, did you lead the first motorised US military action?

1. Not Pancho Villa
2. I should know it, but take a DQ.
3. I think this was George S. Patton

Summary:  
P

1. Not real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with P
4. If real, could be alive today
5. Did not first appear in print
6. Not from a work by an American author
7. Appeared in a movie
8. By a British author
9. Protagonist

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/50 "2014-05-05T16:40:45Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a Hanna-Barbera character who explored the world in a hot air balloon?
> 
> 2. Are you secretly the Amazing Spider-Ham?
> 
> 3. Are you secretly Wonder Warthog?
> 
> 4. Not Peter Porker. Take 2 DQs for the others

#1 was Peter Potamus. #3 was Philbert Desenex.

DQs:

1. From a work of science-fiction or fantasy?
2. Do you have an unusual first name?

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/51 "2014-05-05T16:43:24Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you unsuccessfully run for President from 1968 through the 1990’s?
2. Do string instruments play your theme?
3. Are you married to Richard Benjamin?

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### Author: ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/52 "2014-05-05T17:10:01Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> DQs:
> 
> 1. From a work of science-fiction or fantasy?
> 2. Do you have an unusual first name?

No  
I’ll say Yes. While not unheard of, it’s not very common. I just checked the US Social Security name database, and it never ranked in the Top 1000 at any time in the last 100 years. I also don’t see it in the Top 200 names in the UK, which would be more relevant.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you unsuccessfully run for President from 1968 through the 1990’s?
> 2. Do string instruments play your theme?
> 3. Are you married to Richard Benjamin?

1. Not Paula Prentiss. Take 2 more DQs for the others.

Summary:  
P

1. Not real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with P
4. If real, could be alive today
5. Did not first appear in print
6. Not from a work by an American author
7. Appeared in a movie
8. By a British author
9. Protagonist
10. Not from a work of science fiction or fantasy
11. Have an unusual first name

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/53 "2014-05-05T17:20:00Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you unsuccessfully run for President from 1968 through the 1990’s?
> 
> 2. Do string instruments play your theme?
> 
> 3. Are you married to Richard Benjamin?
> 
> 4. Not Paula Prentiss. Take 2 more DQs for the others.

#1 was comedian Pat Paulsen, who started his campaign on _The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour_ and just kept going. #2 is Peter in _Peter and the Wolf_, which has instrumental themes representing each character.  
Correct on Paula.

2 DQs reserved, for now.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/54 "2014-05-05T18:42:11Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a slain Swedish prime minister? - Olaf Palme.  
Did you design the USS _Enterprise_, NCC-1701-D? - Andrew Probert.  
Did you play a dying billionaire, a Boston hoodlum and a scrappy musician? - Pete Postelthwaite, in _Inception, The Town_ and _Brassed Off_.

DQs:

Is British?  
Has appeared on a TV series?  
Generally considered a “good guy”?

IQs:

Does your own not suspect you’re actually a secret agent?  
Do you often appear on _Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me_?  
Did your own brother succeed you in high office?

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### Author: ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/55 "2014-05-05T20:30:26Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> DQs:  
> Is British?  
> Has appeared on a TV series?  
> Generally considered a “good guy”?

Yes  
No  
Generally - yes. Definitely not a villain, but not a saint either. I have instigated some unpleasantness but regretted it later.

> [@](#):
>
> IQs:  
> Does your own not suspect you’re actually a secret agent?  
> Do you often appear on _Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me_?  
> Did your own brother succeed you in high office?

1. Not Perry Platypus
2. Not Paula Poundstone
3. Take a DQ

Summary:  
P

1. Not real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with P
4. If real, could be alive today
5. Did not first appear in print
6. Not from a work by an American author
7. Appeared in a movie
8. By a British author
9. Protagonist
10. Not from a work of science fiction or fantasy
11. Have an unusual first name
12. British
13. Has not appeared on a TV series
14. Generally considered a “good guy” or least not a villain. Have done bad things that I later regretted.

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/56 "2014-05-05T21:38:03Z")

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DQs:

1. From a series of stories?
2. From the genre of Mystery/Detective stories?

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### Author: ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/57 "2014-05-05T21:48:22Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> DQs:
> 
> 1. From a series of stories?
> 2. From the genre of Mystery/Detective stories?

No and no.

Summary:  
P

1. Not real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with P
4. If real, could be alive today
5. Did not first appear in print
6. Not from a work by an American author
7. Appeared in a movie
8. By a British author
9. Protagonist
10. Not from a work of science fiction or fantasy
11. Have an unusual first name
12. British
13. Has not appeared on a TV series
14. Generally considered a “good guy” or least not a villain. Have done bad things that I later regretted.
15. Not from a series of stories
16. Not from the genre of Mystery/Detective stories

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2014, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/58 "2014-05-05T22:48:17Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the Queen of Butter whose racist remarks caused the cancellation of her show?
2. Were you a Spanish cellist?
3. Were you a French Romantic painter known for your allegorical paintings?

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### Author: ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/59 "2014-05-06T03:43:06Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Did you lead a raid into New Mexico in 1916?  
> IQ2: Did you lead the expedition sent to capture that person?  
> IQ3: As a member of that expedition, did you lead the first motorised US military action?

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
>
> 1. Not Pancho Villa
> 2. I should know it, but take a DQ.
> 3. I think this was George S. Patton

Correct on Pancho Villa.  
John J “Black Jack” Pershing.  
Correct on George S Patton Jr.  
Three DQs reserved.

Anybody know what’s up with etv? He asked to be removed from the SDMB group on Facebook a few days ago - said he doesn’t plan to post any more on the Dope.

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### Author: ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2014, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2014/687433/60 "2014-05-06T03:54:56Z")

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No, but very sorry to hear it.

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