# Botticelli May 2015

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [May 8, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571 "2015-05-08T19:13:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/261 "2015-05-20T14:10:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Do the British commemorate your attempt to blow up Parliament on November 5th?  
> IQ2: Were you a hero to the English, but a pirate to the Spaniards who called you El Draque?  
> IQ3: Did you invent the turbo-jet engine?
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> Not Guy Fawkes.  
> Not Sir Francis Drake.  
> DQ (though I really should know this).

Frank Whittle

DQ: Was the event considered a criminal act?

holding 2 DQs

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/262 "2015-05-20T16:35:09Z")

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**F**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with F
4. Dead
5. Not American
6. Not known for the Arts
7. Not born after 1900
8. Known (more or less) for politics/military
9. European
10. Not born before 1700
11. Not from a country that speaks a Romance language
12. Not a member of the royalty or nobility
13. Best known for a single incident
14. From the UK
15. Not born after 1800
16. Not a common first name
17. Event occurred in the 18th Century
18. Event was considered a criminal act

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/263 "2015-05-20T16:53:08Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you Arthur’s tomboy gal pal? - Yes, Francine, from the kids’ books and PBS TV show _Arthur_.  
Were you President Bartlet’s first CJCS? - Adm. Percy Fitzwallace, on _The West Wing_.  
Were you a noted Irish freedom fighter of the 18th century? - Edward FitzGerald.

DQs:

Associated with London?  
Notable incident was before 1750?

IQ:

Did you try to blow up Parliament?  
Did you try to assassinate Queen Victoria?  
Did you save Wilbur the pig from slaughter?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/264 "2015-05-20T17:02:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ:
> 
> Did you try to blow up Parliament?  
> Did you try to assassinate Queen Victoria?  
> Did you save Wilbur the pig from slaughter?

Still not Guy Fawkes.  
The other two would earn you DQs, but:

**F**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with F
4. Dead
5. Not American
6. Not known for the Arts
7. Not born after 1900
8. Known (more or less) for politics/military
9. European
10. Not born before 1700
11. Not from a country that speaks a Romance language
12. Not a member of the royalty or nobility
13. Best known for a single incident
14. From the UK
15. Not born after 1800
16. Not a common first name
17. Event occurred in the 18th Century
18. Event was considered a criminal act
19. Not associated with London
20. Notable incident was not before 1750  
Aaaaand - that’s twenty! Anyone who was awarded a DQ during the course of this game may now ask one DQ in the form “Are you Firstname Lastname?”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/265 "2015-05-20T20:09:39Z")

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Soooo, I’m wondering if English citizens in the American colonies in the late 18th Century are considered “from the UK” rather than “American”, as technically they would have been.

Think, think, think. Well, it’s not Dick Turpin…

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/266 "2015-05-20T20:21:52Z")

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Are you Francis Place?

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/267 "2015-05-21T00:50:38Z")

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> [@Baffle](#):
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> IQ1. Did you create _Fallingwater_?  
> IQ2. Did you give your name to a word meaning “senselesslly, surreally complex”?  
> IQ3. Did you name yourself after a car, thereby confusing trans-Atlantic audiences?

Missed most of this game, it seems…

Frank Lloyd Wright and Franz Kafka were correct. #3 was Ford Prefect, of _Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy_. (Most Americans didn’t get the joke.)

Are you Black Francis McHugh?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/268 "2015-05-21T02:02:16Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Are you Francis Place?

I am not.

> [@Baffle](#):
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> Are you Black Francis McHugh?

I am not.  
I did actually think of Ford Prefect when I first read your question, but “Did you name yourself…?” confused me - I thought you were asking about a real person.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/269 "2015-05-21T02:30:21Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you try to blow up Parliament? - Yes, Guy Fawkes.  
Did you try to assassinate Queen Victoria? - Frederick Somebodyorother, as I recall.  
Did you save Wilbur the pig from slaughter? - Fern Arable, in _Charlotte’s Web_.

Hmmm. Given the DQ clues, I’m drawing a blank on who our mystery person may be. Lemme think…

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/270 "2015-05-21T11:20:42Z")

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Unless you offer some very broad hints, I don’t even have a guess.

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/271 "2015-05-21T12:36:59Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> I am not.
> 
> I am not.  
> I did actually think of Ford Prefect when I first read your question, but “Did you name yourself…?” confused me - I thought you were asking about a real person.

Aha. Ford Prefect did name himself (in the context of the story) when he arrived on Earth.

I have no idea who your person is, though. ☹

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/272 "2015-05-21T13:47:37Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Unless you offer some very broad hints, I don’t even have a guess.

DQs 8, 13, and 18 are important.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/273 "2015-05-21T14:04:47Z")

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Hmmm.

IQ:

Did you command the troops who committed the Boston Massacre?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/274 "2015-05-21T14:12:25Z")

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Total blank. No clue.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/275 "2015-05-21T14:51:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ:
> 
> Did you command the troops who committed the Boston Massacre?

I did not.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/276 "2015-05-21T17:57:46Z")

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I’ll give this a few more hours - say 8:00 pm Eastern - in case astorian or Prof P should have a sudden aha! moment.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/277 "2015-05-21T19:26:26Z")

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Damn, I’m drawing a blank. Someone else may ask my “Are you Firstname Lastname?” question, if you wish.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/278 "2015-05-21T20:58:23Z")

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No “ahas” from me.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/279 "2015-05-21T21:11:48Z")

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I’m still without a reasonably good guess.

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2015/719571/280 "2015-05-21T21:50:35Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Damn, I’m drawing a blank. Someone else may ask my “Are you Firstname Lastname?” question, if you wish.

I have one I could throw out…

Are you Sir Francis Bond Head, governor of Upper Canada during the rebellion of 1837?

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