# Botticelli - May 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [April 29, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506 "2017-04-29T16:43:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 16

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/301 "2017-05-16T11:27:02Z")

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> [@divemaster](#):
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> DQ in the AM.

Politician?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/302 "2017-05-16T14:48:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Did you manage to escape Earth before it was demolished to make way for a hyperspace bypass?  
> IQ2: Did you write about IQ1?  
> IQ3: Are you the proprietor of a holistic detective agency that IQ2 wrote about?
> 
> Not Arthur Dent.  
> Not Douglas Thingummy.  
> Not Dirk Gently.

Adams. How could you forget ADAMS?

holding a DQ

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/303 "2017-05-16T14:54:08Z")

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While we’re waiting…

Is there a “master post” with the rules we’re going by? Parameters for questions, etc. I’d like to read up as a refresher, especially if I happen to host a round at some point. Along those lines, is someone compiling a list of subjects so we don’t pick one already done?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/304 "2017-05-16T14:58:22Z")

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IQ1: Did you allege that you were attacked by thugs who asked “What’s the frequency, Kenneth?”  
IQ2: In _The Court Jester_, did your character fumble with a rhyme to remember which drink was poisoned?  
IQ3: Are you currently the best selling author alive?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/305 "2017-05-16T15:15:16Z")

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> [@divemaster](#):
>
> While we’re waiting…
> 
> Is there a “master post” with the rules we’re going by? Parameters for questions, etc. I’d like to read up as a refresher, especially if I happen to host a round at some point. Along those lines, is someone compiling a list of subjects so we don’t pick one already done?

We more or less go by the rules [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botticelli_(game)), with the option to reserve DQs. EH maintains a separate thread of [the letters we’ve used](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=648663), going back _5 years!_

My memory is shit, but other players do remember when we’ve used names before. It’s only happened twice that I can recall. I think the art of picking names that aren’t too obvious makes this kind of self-governing.

I’ve remarked when I thought a question was too vague before, so I’d say it’s up to the players to determine parameters when such issues come up.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/306 "2017-05-16T15:37:52Z")

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Thanks, **KO**. You can also search “Botticelli” and a particular name to see if it’s been used in the past.

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/307 "2017-05-16T16:08:49Z")

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Cool; thanks.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/308 "2017-05-16T22:01:29Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Are you credited by some for the extra brake light on American cars?  
> Were you a Fifties actress who would not be expected to be nocturnal?  
> Was your last TV appearance in the very early days of the David Letterman show?

DQ.  
Not Doris Day.  
(Love the way you worded that, BTW.)  
DQ.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did you allege that you were attacked by thugs who asked “What’s the frequency, Kenneth?”  
> IQ2: In _The Court Jester_, did your character fumble with a rhyme to remember which drink was poisoned?  
> IQ3: Are you currently the best selling author alive?

DQ.  
Not Danny … Thomas?  
DQ.

D

1. Real
2. Female
3. Alive
4. American
5. Last name does not start with D
6. Not born after 1964
7. Considered a beauty
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Not a politician

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Adams. How could you forget ADAMS?

Well, I’ve never actually read any of those books…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/309 "2017-05-16T22:16:39Z")

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DQ: Actress?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/310 "2017-05-16T22:19:25Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you Kenneth Robeson’s best known creation?
2. Did Benedict Cumberbatch play you in a blockbuster movie last year?
3. Have you been plated by Rowan Atkinson, Hugh Grant, Jim Broadbent and Joanna Lumley?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/311 "2017-05-16T22:23:18Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> We more or less go by the rules [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botticelli_(game)), with the option to reserve DQs. EH maintains a separate thread of [the letters we’ve used](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=648663), going back _5 years!_
> 
> My memory is shit, but other players do remember when we’ve used names before. It’s only happened twice that I can recall. I think the art of picking names that aren’t too obvious makes this kind of self-governing.
> 
> I’ve remarked when I thought a question was too vague before, so I’d say it’s up to the players to determine parameters when such issues come up.

A few more points re names:

If the person has a multi-word name but no surname, the first and last words of the name are the “first name” and “last name” for questions such as _Last name begins with X?_ For instance, Sitting Bull’s “first name” is Sitting; his “last name” is Bull.

We use the most common form of the person’s name. Stephen Grover Cleveland can be used for G or C, but not as an S. Similarly, Thomas Woodrow Wilson can only be used as a W, not as a T.

If the person’s middle name (John Philip Sousa, Louisa May Alcott) or initial (D H Lawrence, James K Polk) are more or less always used when speaking of him/her/it, it’s okay to use the middle name as the basis for an IQ. Using it as the basis for a game, however, is frowned upon.  
I did start making a list of people who had been used for games, but gave it up when I started having computer problems last year.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/312 "2017-05-16T22:37:01Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you Kenneth Robeson’s best known creation?
> 2. Did Benedict Cumberbatch play you in a blockbuster movie last year?
> 3. Have you been plated by Rowan Atkinson, Hugh Grant, Jim Broadbent and Joanna Lumley?

Being Doc Savage once was quite enough, thank you.  
DQ.  
Do you mean gold-plated or silver-plated, or is the difference not important? Either way, DQ.

D

1. Real
2. Female
3. Alive
4. American
5. Last name does not start with D
6. Not born after 1964
7. Considered a beauty
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Not a politician
10. Actress

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/313 "2017-05-17T00:01:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Did you allege that you were attacked by thugs who asked “What’s the frequency, Kenneth?”  
> IQ2: In The Court Jester, did your character fumble with a rhyme to remember which drink was poisoned?  
> IQ3: Are you currently the best selling author alive?
> 
> DQ.  
> Not Danny … Thomas?  
> DQ.

Dan Rather, Danny Kaye (The pellet with the poison’s in the flagon with the dragon; the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true), Danielle Steel

Dan x 3!

DQ: Best known from movies?  
DQ: Best known for drama?

holding 2 DQsies

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/314 "2017-05-17T01:59:32Z")

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D

1. Real
2. Female
3. Alive
4. American
5. Last name does not start with D
6. Not born after 1964
7. Considered a beauty
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Not a politician
10. Actress
11. Best known from movies
12. Best known for drama

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/315 "2017-05-17T02:47:40Z")

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IQ1: Do you have friends such as Gub-Gub, Dab-Dab, Chee-Chee, and Too-Too?  
IQ2: Did you play a famous queen, starring with a famous swashbuckler?  
IQ3: Are you the senior U.S. Senator from Illinois?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/316 "2017-05-17T04:14:58Z")

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Previous IQs:

Are you credited by some for the extra brake light on American cars? - Elizabeth Dole, when she was Secretary of Transportation  
Were you a Fifties actress who would not be expected to be nocturnal? - Yes, Doris Day  
Was your last TV appearance in the very early days of the David Letterman show? - Bette Davis

DQs:

Has won an Oscar?  
Has been in a movie nominated for any Oscar in the past ten years?

IQs:

Were you the star of the Seventies sitcom _Angie_?  
Did you play Mary Bailey?  
Did you play Tasha Yar?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/317 "2017-05-17T14:58:45Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you Kenneth Robeson’s best known creation?
> 2. Did Benedict Cumberbatch play you in a blockbuster movie last year?
> 3. Have you been plated by Rowan Atkinson, Hugh Grant, Jim Broadbent and Joanna Lumley?

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Being Doc Savage once was quite enough, thank you.  
> DQ.  
> Do you mean gold-plated or silver-plated, or is the difference not important? Either way, DQ.

Correct on Doc.  
#2 was Doctor Strange.  
#3 was Doctor Who. (All four as the Doctor in the Comic Relief version, _The Curse of Fatal Death_.)

2 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/318 "2017-05-17T16:03:57Z")

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IQ1: Are you an actress from the movie _The Help_ who has the same first name as a stringed instrument?  
IQ2: Do you play the role of Night Nurse in Marvel’s Netflix shows like _Daredevil_, _Luke Cage_, etc?  
IQ3: Are you a talk show personality who’s married to Portia de Rossi?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/319 "2017-05-17T21:37:37Z")

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> [@divemaster](#):
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> IQ1: Do you have friends such as Gub-Gub, Dab-Dab, Chee-Chee, and Too-Too?  
> IQ2: Did you play a famous queen, starring with a famous swashbuckler?  
> IQ3: Are you the senior U.S. Senator from Illinois?

Not Dr Doolittle.  
DQ.  
DQ.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Were you the star of the Seventies sitcom _Angie_?  
> Did you play Mary Bailey?  
> Did you play Tasha Yar?

Three DQs.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> IQ1: Are you an actress from the movie _The Help_ who has the same first name as a stringed instrument?  
> IQ2: Do you play the role of Night Nurse in Marvel’s Netflix shows like _Daredevil_, _Luke Cage_, etc?  
> IQ3: Are you a talk show personality who’s married to Portia de Rossi?

Three DQs. (Viola Dsomething for IQ1, I suppose…)

D

1. Real
2. Female
3. Alive
4. American
5. Last name does not start with D
6. Not born after 1964
7. Considered a beauty
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Not a politician
10. Actress
11. Best known from movies
12. Best known for drama
13. Has not won an Oscar
14. Has not been in a movie nominated for any Oscar in the past ten years

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/320 "2017-05-17T22:20:00Z")

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DQ: Unusual first name?

1 DQ reserved.

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