# Botticelli - May 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [April 29, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506 "2017-04-29T16:43:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 17

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/321 "2017-05-17T22:48:28Z")

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D

1. Real
2. Female
3. Alive
4. American
5. Last name does not start with D
6. Not born after 1964
7. Considered a beauty
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Not a politician
10. Actress
11. Best known from movies
12. Best known for drama
13. Has not won an Oscar
14. Has not been in a movie nominated for any Oscar in the past ten years
15. Context would determine whether it might be considered an unusual first name

(Sorry – most accurate answer I can give…)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/322 "2017-05-17T23:01:04Z")

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DQ: Born after 1950?

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/323 "2017-05-18T02:20:59Z")

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> [@divemaster](#):
>
> IQ1: Do you have friends such as Gub-Gub, Dab-Dab, Chee-Chee, and Too-Too?  
> IQ2: Did you play a famous queen, starring with a famous swashbuckler?  
> IQ3: Are you the senior U.S. Senator from Illinois?

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Not Dr Doolittle.  
> DQ.  
> DQ.

IQ2: Bette Davis in **The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex**. She played Queen Elizabeth; Errol Flynn played the Earl of Essex  
IQ3: Richard (Dick) Durbin

DQ: Have a movie acting credit in the last 5 years? (archive footage would not count)  
DQ: Has ever done voice-over work for an animated feature?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/324 "2017-05-18T02:25:03Z")

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D

1. Real
2. Female
3. Alive
4. American
5. Last name does not start with D
6. Not born after 1964
7. Considered a beauty
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Not a politician
10. Actress
11. Best known from movies
12. Best known for drama
13. Has not won an Oscar
14. Has not been in a movie nominated for any Oscar in the past ten years
15. Context would determine whether it might be considered an unusual first name\*
16. Not born after 1950

- Most accurate answer I can give…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/325 "2017-05-18T02:30:50Z")

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D

1. Real
2. Female
3. Alive
4. American
5. Last name does not start with D
6. Not born after 1964
7. Considered a beauty
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Not a politician
10. Actress
11. Best known from movies
12. Best known for drama
13. Has not won an Oscar
14. Has not been in a movie nominated for any Oscar in the past ten years
15. Context would determine whether it might be considered an unusual first name\*
16. Not born after 1950
17. Does not have a movie acting credit in the last 5 years
18. Has never done voice-over work for an animated feature

- Most accurate answer I can give…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/326 "2017-05-18T02:39:06Z")

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Another house rule, for **divemaster** ’s edification:

We play until 20 DQs have been answered by the host. After that the host may, at his/her/its discretion, offer to answer all remaining reserved DQs. The host then gives a final deadline (usually a day or two away) before which all persons who were awarded a DQ during the game can ask one more DQ, using the format “Are you Firstname Lastname?”

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/327 "2017-05-18T02:56:33Z")

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Ah; ok.

Do we have to ask IQs in threes as a rule?

* * *

IQ1: Did you play a really nasty mother (you hired a hitman to kill your daughter’s boyfriend) where the movie daughter was played by your real life daughter?

IQ2: Were you a very popular recording artist who transitioned into a TV host/variety personality, and also made a name in golf?

IQ3: Did you run as a Democrat in the 1988 presidential primaries; appear on ballots as a Populist in that same election; and as a Republican in the 1992 presidential primaries?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/328 "2017-05-18T04:03:52Z")

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You can ask fewer than three IQs, but never more than that.

> [@divemaster](#):
>
> IQ2: Bette Davis in **The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex**. She played Queen Elizabeth; Errol Flynn played the Earl of Essex…

I’d already asked about Bette Davis in post 316.

Previous IQs:

Were you the star of the Seventies sitcom _Angie_? - Donna Pescow  
Did you play Mary Bailey? - Donna Reed, in _It’s a Wonderful Life_  
Did you play Tasha Yar? - Denise Crosby, on _Star Trek: The Next Generation_

Hmm. Not sure who this is. Three DQs reserved for now.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/329 "2017-05-18T04:08:28Z")

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> [@divemaster](#):
>
> IQ1: Did you play a really nasty mother (you hired a hitman to kill your daughter’s boyfriend) where the movie daughter was played by your real life daughter?
> 
> IQ2: Were you a very popular recording artist who transitioned into a TV host/variety personality, and also made a name in golf?
> 
> IQ3: Did you run as a Democrat in the 1988 presidential primaries; appear on ballots as a Populist in that same election; and as a Republican in the 1992 presidential primaries?

Three DQs.

> [@divemaster](#):
>
> Do we have to ask IQs in threes as a rule?

No. We just do it that way to speed up play. One, two, or three, but no more than three. If you ask three, and then think of a better question, but it’s too late to edit, you can ask the host to ignore one of the previous three and answer your new question instead (as EH did in post 69 of this thread).

Also, if you are given a DQ but someone else has already been awarded a DQ based on the same person, you lose your DQ. ETA: If I’d noticed the Bette Davis repeat, I would have answered only one of your two DQs. But I didn’t, so I did. 😃

And if the host reveals the name and no one has heard of the person, the previous host takes over (as was also done earlier in this thread).

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/330 "2017-05-18T04:24:10Z")

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Ok; I guess part of the game is sussing out other people’s IQ’s? I didn’t know about the previous Bette Davis question, b/c it wasn’t answered until after I made up my own B.D. question.

IQ1: Did you play a really nasty mother (you hired a hitman to kill your daughter’s boyfriend) where the movie daughter was played by your real life daughter? **Dianne Ladd** ; in the movie Wild at Heart (movie/real life daughter is Laura Dern)

IQ2: Were you a very popular recording artist who transitioned into a TV host/variety personality, and also made a name in golf? **Dinah Shore**

IQ3: Did you run as a Democrat in the 1988 presidential primaries; appear on ballots as a Populist in that same election; and as a Republican in the 1992 presidential primaries? **David Duke**

I’ll let someone else round out the 20; I had the last two.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/331 "2017-05-18T12:12:11Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> IQ1: Are you an actress from the movie The Help who has the same first name as a stringed instrument?  
> IQ2: Do you play the role of Night Nurse in Marvel’s Netflix shows like Daredevil, Luke Cage, etc?  
> IQ3: Are you a talk show personality who’s married to Portia de Rossi?
> 
> Three DQs. (Viola Dsomething for IQ1, I suppose…)

Viola Davis, Rosario Dawson, Ellen DeGeneris

OK, let’s get the train rolling…

DQ: Born east of the Mississippi?  
DQ: Born north of Mason-Dixon line?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/332 "2017-05-18T12:21:43Z")

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D

1. Real
2. Female
3. Alive
4. American
5. Last name does not start with D
6. Not born after 1964
7. Considered a beauty
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Not a politician
10. Actress
11. Best known from movies
12. Best known for drama
13. Has not won an Oscar
14. Has not been in a movie nominated for any Oscar in the past ten years
15. Context would determine whether it might be considered an unusual first name\*
16. Not born after 1950
17. Does not have a movie acting credit in the last 5 years
18. Has never done voice-over work for an animated feature
19. Born west of the Mississippi
20. Born north of the Mason-Dixon line

- Most accurate answer I can give…  
And that’s twenty. EH has three DQs reserved; I don’t think anyone else does, but if you do, ask them before 1800 Eastern tomorrow (Fri 19May), please.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/333 "2017-05-18T15:21:01Z")

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I’m drawing a blank on this actress. I yield my three DQs, one apiece, to anyone who’d like to ask 'em.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/334 "2017-05-18T16:20:04Z")

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EH’s DQ: Caucasian?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/335 "2017-05-18T20:28:11Z")

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D

1. Real
2. Female
3. Alive
4. American
5. Last name does not start with D
6. Not born after 1964
7. Considered a beauty
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Not a politician
10. Actress
11. Best known from movies
12. Best known for drama
13. Has not won an Oscar
14. Has not been in a movie nominated for any Oscar in the past ten years
15. Context would determine whether it might be considered an unusual first name\*
16. Not born after 1950
17. Does not have a movie acting credit in the last 5 years
18. Has never done voice-over work for an animated feature
19. Born west of the Mississippi
20. Born north of the Mason-Dixon line
21. Caucasian
22. 
23. 

- Most accurate answer I can give…  
Ask the remaining reserved DQs before 1800 Eastern tomorrow (Fri 19May), please.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/336 "2017-05-18T22:39:14Z")

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OK, I’ll try one of EH’s DQs.

Married to an actor?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/337 "2017-05-19T02:42:50Z")

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D

1. Real
2. Female
3. Alive
4. American
5. Last name does not start with D
6. Not born after 1964
7. Considered a beauty
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Not a politician
10. Actress
11. Best known from movies
12. Best known for drama
13. Has not won an Oscar
14. Has not been in a movie nominated for any Oscar in the past ten years
15. Context would determine whether it might be considered an unusual first name\*
16. Not born after 1950
17. Does not have a movie acting credit in the last 5 years
18. Has never done voice-over work for an animated feature
19. Born west of the Mississippi
20. Born north of the Mason-Dixon line
21. Caucasian
22. Formerly married to an actor
23. 

- Most accurate answer I can give…  
Ask any remaining reserved DQs before 1800 Eastern tomorrow (Fri 19 May), please.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/338 "2017-05-19T11:56:01Z")

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Are you Dyan Cannon?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/339 "2017-05-19T13:13:05Z")

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That’s a very good guess.

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2017/785506/340 "2017-05-19T13:50:51Z")

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Seems to fit!

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