# Botticelli - May 2018

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [May 8, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813 "2018-05-08T13:30:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/1 "2018-05-08T13:30:48Z")

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Last month’s thread: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=852366](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=852366)

I’ve checked the last couple of months and I don’t think we’ve done P too recently, so let’s go with that. Fire at will!

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/2 "2018-05-08T16:43:46Z")

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Hiya **Kitty**! Let’s play!

IQs

1. Are you a neck tie wearing comidienne?
2. Did you make a 1968 presidential run out of your \*Smothers Brothers \*appearances?
3. Were you an original Mousketeer who went on to play on _The Donna Reed Show_?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/3 "2018-05-08T17:34:11Z")

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1. I am not Sue Perkins.
2. No idea.
3. I only know the names of 3 Mousketeers and none of them has a name beginning with P, so take a DQ here, too.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/4 "2018-05-08T17:41:36Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the actor who played Prof. Pepperwinkle in the 1950’s TV series _The Adventures of Superman_?
2. Were you Charlemagne’s papa?
3. Are you Tony Stark’s love interest in the movies?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/5 "2018-05-08T18:17:23Z")

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Wow, I forgot how ignorant I feel being ‘it’ :).

Not having ever seen the relevant material, I can’t even guess at 1 or 3. I feel I ought to know 2 but it’s not really coming to me. I’ll take a bit of a stab at… Phillip? Take 2 or 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/6 "2018-05-08T19:22:27Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the actor who played Prof. Pepperwinkle in the 1950’s TV series _The Adventures of Superman_?
> 2. Were you Charlemagne’s papa?
> 3. Are you Tony Stark’s love interest in the movies?

#1 was Phil Tead.  
#2. Big Karl was the son of Pepin the Short and Bertha Bigfoot. Really.  
#3 is Pepper Potts.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?
3. Last name starts with P?

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/7 "2018-05-08T20:23:45Z")

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> [@MonkeyMensch](#):
>
> Hiya **Kitty**! Let’s play!
> 
> IQs
> 
> 1. Are you a neck tie wearing comidienne?
> 2. Did you make a 1968 presidential run out of your \*Smothers Brothers \*appearances?
> 3. Were you an original Mousketeer who went on to play on _The Donna Reed Show_?

1. I was thinking of Paula Poundstone.
2. that was Pat Paulsen
3. Paul Petersen was the mouser in question, here.

Your call, of course, on whether #1 is worthy of a DQ.

I absolutley empathize with that feeling of ignorance when your “IT”. I flail hopelessly when I’m queried about anything re SciFi. Onward.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/8 "2018-05-09T08:58:27Z")

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> [@MonkeyMensch](#):
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> 1. I was thinking of Paula Poundstone.
> 2. that was Pat Paulsen
> 3. Paul Petersen was the mouser in question, here.
> 
> Your call, of course, on whether #1 is worthy of a DQ.

The way we usually play is that if an IQ is answered with a valid person, no DQ is earned, even if it wasn’t the same person the questioner was thinking of. I believe [Sue Perkins](https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/20/sue-perkins-bbc-new-show-top-gear_n_7097972.html) is a valid answer, though perhaps she is not so closely associated with the necktie as your choice?

DQ answers so far:

1. Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with P

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/9 "2018-05-09T20:14:16Z")

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**DC** , that’s the way I’ve always played as well so a pair of DQs.

DQs  
Known from the performing arts?  
Alive today?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/10 "2018-05-09T21:03:37Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you Alexander the Great’s father?
2. Are you the protagonist of Dickens’s _Great Expectations_?
3. Do “the Frenchies seek you everywhere”?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/11 "2018-05-10T04:04:51Z")

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Previous round IQs:

Did a young George Washington probably have a crush on your wife? - Lord Fairfax  
Did Churchill make an unflattering pun about your name? - Speaking of John Foster Dulles, he said, “Dull, Duller, Dulles.”  
Should Scrooge have learned more from you early in his career as to both capitalism and Christmas? - Yes, Fezziwig

On to P…

IQs:

Were you recently played by Matt Smith?  
Were you a fictional and not especially bright crime boss?  
Were you his brother?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/12 "2018-05-10T10:10:20Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you Alexander the Great’s father?
> 2. Are you the protagonist of Dickens’s _Great Expectations_?
> 3. Do “the Frenchies seek you everywhere”?

1. I am not… Phillip of Macedon?
2. I am not Phillip Pirrip aka Pip.
3. I am not the Scarlet Pimpernel (whose real name I have forgotten even though he was the subject of a Botticelli game not too long ago).

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you recently played by Matt Smith?  
> Were you a fictional and not especially bright crime boss?  
> Were you his brother?

I’m drawing a blank here - take 3 DQs.

DQ answers so far:

1. Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with P
4. Not known from the performing arts
5. Dead

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/13 "2018-05-10T13:34:26Z")

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You swept me!  
IQs:

1. Were you the only actor in the _Lethal Weapon_ film franchise to win an Oscar?
2. Were you the Black Lectroid who delivered the message to Buckaroo Banzai?
3. Were you Ophelia’s dad?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/14 "2018-05-10T15:07:37Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> You swept me!  
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the only actor in the _Lethal Weapon_ film franchise to win an Oscar?
> 2. Were you the Black Lectroid who delivered the message to Buckaroo Banzai?
> 3. Were you Ophelia’s dad?

Suspect you’ve swept me right back!

1. I don’t think Paul Newman was in the franchise but he is an Oscar-winner so may as well take a stab in the dark.
2. No idea.
3. I am not Perseus (wild guess).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/15 "2018-05-10T16:34:02Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you recently played by Matt Smith? - Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, in _The Crown_  
Were you a fictional and not especially bright crime boss? - Doug Piranha, on _Monty Python’s Flying Circus_: [The Piranha Brothers - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBL3XB-PhE8)  
Were you his brother? - Dinsdale Piranha, ditto

DQs:

American?  
Political/military?  
Died since 1900?

IQs:

Did you travel around Western Europe to learn, among other things, shipbuilding?  
Were you an only child who, a coworker knew, didn’t have a brother with a first name starting with the same letter, despite you saying you did?  
Did Judi Dench play you in a recent movie?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/16 "2018-05-10T17:33:33Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Previous IQs:
> 
> Were you recently played by Matt Smith? - Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, in _The Crown_  
> Were you a fictional and not especially bright crime boss? - Doug Piranha, on _Monty Python’s Flying Circus_: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBL3XB-PhE8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBL3XB-PhE8)  
> Were you his brother? - Dinsdale Piranha, ditto
> 
> DQs:
> 
> American?  
> Political/military?  
> Died since 1900?
> 
> IQs:
> 
> Did you travel around Western Europe to learn, among other things, shipbuilding?  
> Were you an only child who, a coworker knew, didn’t have a brother with a first name starting with the same letter, despite you saying you did?  
> Did Judi Dench play you in a recent movie?

I am not Marco Polo (stab in the dark), no idea but I like the question, and I am not Philomena (can’t remember her surname despite seeing the movie and reading the book).

DQ answers so far:

1. Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with P
4. Not known from the performing arts
5. Dead
6. American
7. Not political/military
8. Died before 1900

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/17 "2018-05-10T18:24:21Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you travel around Western Europe to learn, among other things, shipbuilding? - Peter the Great of Russia  
Were you an only child who, a coworker knew, didn’t have a brother with a first name starting with the same letter, despite you saying you did? - Pavel Chekov, under the influence of an alien entity, once thought he had a brother, Piotr, who had been killed by the Klingons, but Sulu knew better (in the original _Star Trek_ episode “Day of the Dove”)  
Did Judi Dench play you in a recent movie? - Yes, the title character of _Philomena_

DQs:

Died before 1850?  
Businessman/inventor?

IQs:

Are you much better remembered than Dawes, who did the same thing as you?  
Did you once fly a flag with white words on a blue field?  
Did you surrender Vicksburg to Grant in 1863?

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**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/18 "2018-05-10T18:30:31Z")

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IQs

1. Though fictional do you always have an unrealistically optimistic view?
2. Did you harvest a hectare of hot habaneros?
3. Were you the high-singing tenor for Earth, Wind and Fire?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/19 "2018-05-10T18:43:07Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> You swept me!  
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the only actor in the _Lethal Weapon_ film franchise to win an Oscar?
> 2. Were you the Black Lectroid who delivered the message to Buckaroo Banzai?
> 3. Were you Ophelia’s dad?

> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
>
> Suspect you’ve swept me right back!
> 
> 1. I don’t think Paul Newman was in the franchise but he is an Oscar-winner so may as well take a stab in the dark.
> 2. No idea.
> 3. I am not Perseus (wild guess).

#1 was Joe Pesci.  
#2 was John Parker.  
#3 was Polonius.

3 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/20 "2018-05-11T08:19:26Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Are you much better remembered than Dawes, who did the same thing as you?  
> Did you once fly a flag with white words on a blue field?  
> Did you surrender Vicksburg to Grant in 1863?

I’ll take a stab at Phileas Fogg for the first one, but I suspect you have swept me again.

> [@MonkeyMensch](#):
>
> IQs
> 
> 1. Though fictional do you always have an unrealistically optimistic view?
> 2. Did you harvest a hectare of hot habaneros?
> 3. Were you the high-singing tenor for Earth, Wind and Fire?

I am not Winnie the Pooh (suspect it’s not who you were thinking of, up to you if you think it’s a valid answer or perhaps you want to rephrase), Peter Piper (nice one), and don’t know.

DQ answers so far:

1. Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with P
4. Not known from the performing arts
5. Dead
6. American
7. Not political/military
8. Died before 1900
9. Died after 1850
10. Not a businessman/inventor

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