# Botticelli - May 2018 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [May 8, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813 "2018-05-08T13:30:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/81 "2018-05-16T18:28:17Z")
1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Not American 4. Last name starts with W 5. Originally from a work of prose fiction 6. Created after 1899 7. Not created by an American author or authors 8. Created since 1950 9. Has appeared in a movie 10. European 11. British or Irish 12. Created before 1990 13. English 14. Not considered a “good guy” 15. Not from sci-fi/fantasy genre 16. Main antagonist in the original work 17. Would not be alive today, if real 18. Not a criminal 19. Created after 1970 (I’m interpreting this as ‘first published’ here - it is possible the author first thought of the character prior to 1970) 20. From a work set in the then-present day 21. Better known from the book than the film (though a bit of a judgement call - I think the right one, but the film is also well-known) ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/82 "2018-05-16T21:26:32Z")
Quote: Originally Posted by **MonkeyMensch** [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/images/SultanThemeVB3R/buttons/viewpost.gif](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20961716#post20961716) \*Nice game all. Here are some IQs: 1. Were enough to entice Edward VIII of England to abdicate? 2. Are you “The one who knocks…” 3. Did you defeat the English at Stirling Bridge?\* 4. I am not Wallace Simpson Correct 5. Take a DQ - So you’re not Walter White from Breaking Bad 6. I am not William Wallace Correct DQ: Is the film drama or is it comic? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/83 "2018-05-16T22:04:42Z")
Not sure that is a yes/no question but I’ll allow it - the film is definitely not comic, could be described as drama, best description really is probably adventure. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/84 "2018-05-17T04:17:42Z")
Hmmm. Not sure I’m going to recognize this dude’s name when I learn who it is. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/85 "2018-05-17T08:33:51Z")
Well, I’ll give it another 24 hours for the remaining DQs to be asked, then people can guess away. I reckon most of us will know the name once it has been discovered/revealed. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/86 "2018-05-17T18:48:21Z")
> [@](#): > > IQ1: Are you a religious leader portrayed by Louise Fletcher in ST: DS9? > IQ2: Are you the codename for Bucky Barnes after he was converted to a Soviet assassin? > IQ3: Are you the alias of Iron Man’s buddy James Rhodes? > > No idea on any of these - take 3 DQs. Kai Winn, Winter Soldier, War Machine If you’re allowing extra DQs: DQ1: Law enforcement genre? DQ2: Comedy genre? DQ3: Romance genre? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/87 "2018-05-17T22:08:23Z")
Discussion: Adventure genre. Hmm. The novels I’m remembering by British authors of 1970s-1980s that aren’t scifi/fantasy/period are the last works by Agatha Christie, some James Bond novels, some novels about the Saint, and John le Carre and other spy novels. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/88 "2018-05-18T07:32:14Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Kai Winn, Winter Soldier, War Machine > > If you’re allowing extra DQs: > > DQ1: Law enforcement genre? > DQ2: Comedy genre? > DQ3: Romance genre? As I effectively answered these in reply to MonkeyMensch (see also Prof. P’s last post), but didn’t add it to the list of DQ answers so you may have missed it, I’d be happy for you to ask three different DQs if you wish. MonekyMensch has one DQ available as well. 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Not American 4. Last name starts with W 5. Originally from a work of prose fiction 6. Created after 1899 7. Not created by an American author or authors 8. Created since 1950 9. Has appeared in a movie 10. European 11. British or Irish 12. Created before 1990 13. English 14. Not considered a “good guy” 15. Not from sci-fi/fantasy genre 16. Main antagonist in the original work 17. Would not be alive today, if real 18. Not a criminal 19. Created after 1970 (I’m interpreting this as ‘first published’ here - it is possible the author first thought of the character prior to 1970) 20. From a work set in the then-present day 21. Better known from the book than the film (though a bit of a judgement call - I think the right one, but the film is also well-known) 22. Story best described as ‘adventure’ ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/89 "2018-05-18T12:25:22Z")
…There’s also Richard Adams’ books… ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/90 "2018-05-18T13:59:02Z")
OK, reasking my DQs. DQ1: Does the story primarily take place in London? DQ2: Does the story take place in one time period? DQ3: Authority figure? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/91 "2018-05-18T15:49:27Z")
Additional answers below. MonkeyMensch may still ask a DQ, or people can start making their guesses - if no-one has it by Monday morning, I’ll go for the big reveal then. 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. Not American 4. Last name starts with W 5. Originally from a work of prose fiction 6. Created after 1899 7. Not created by an American author or authors 8. Created since 1950 9. Has appeared in a movie 10. European 11. British or Irish 12. Created before 1990 13. English 14. Not considered a “good guy” 15. Not from sci-fi/fantasy genre 16. Main antagonist in the original work 17. Would not be alive today, if real 18. Not a criminal 19. Created after 1970 (I’m interpreting this as ‘first published’ here - it is possible the author first thought of the character prior to 1970) 20. From a work set in the then-present day 21. Better known from the book than the film (though a bit of a judgement call - I think the right one, but the film is also well-known) 22. Story best described as ‘adventure’ 23. Story does not primarily take place in London 24. Story takes place in one time period 25. Authority figure ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/92 "2018-05-18T19:24:17Z")
My best guess is Walter White, but that’s not it. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/93 "2018-05-18T21:38:16Z")
My last DQ/Guess: Are you General Woundwort from Richard Adams’s _Watership Down_? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/94 "2018-05-18T22:36:35Z")
Yes, I am General Woundwortthe Chief Rabbit of Efrafa, the warren run like a police state in _Watership Down_. Well done Prof. P! Just when I thought I was going to get away with it, too. But I knew you were onto me when you mentioned Richard Adams. Good game, all. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/95 "2018-05-19T01:34:37Z")
Good game, DC. Next, I am L. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/96 "2018-05-19T03:39:47Z")
It’s been so long since I read that book. I only remember the hruuduuduus. IQ1: At Betty White’s roast, did you say she is so old that on her first game show ever, the prize was fire? IQ2: Are you a blue collar comedian whose real name is Daniel Lawrence Whitney? IQ3: Did you play Tommy Flanagan, Pathological Liar on SNL? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/97 "2018-05-19T03:50:38Z")
Never read the book, but I recognize the name. Well done, **PP**. IQs: Did you build Hildene, your country home, in rural Vermont? Were you that person’s dad? Were you that person’s mom? ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/98 "2018-05-19T04:50:35Z")
Well played DC and the professor, who has some meddling kids and a dog to help him in fooling the schemes of others. Iqs: 1. Were you the poorly talented foil to Gene Kelly in _Singin’ in the Rain_? 2. Did you portray “Fereret-face”? 3. Did you haunt the dreams of _The Raven_’s narrator? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/99 "2018-05-19T12:00:07Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > It’s been so long since I read that book. I only remember the hruuduuduus. > > IQ1: At Betty White’s roast, did you say she is so old that on her first game show ever, the prize was fire? > IQ2: Are you a blue collar comedian whose real name is Daniel Lawrence Whitney? > IQ3: Did you play Tommy Flanagan, Pathological Liar on SNL? 1. I am not Denis Leary (???) 2. I am not Larry the Cable Guy. Take a DQ for #3. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813/100 "2018-05-19T12:01:13Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Never read the book, but I recognize the name. Well done, **PP**. > > IQs: > > Did you build Hildene, your country home, in rural Vermont? > Were you that person’s dad? > Were you that person’s mom? 1. I am not Robert Todd Lincoln. 2. I am not Abraham Lincoln. 3. I am not Mary Todd Lincoln. I was waiting for the Lincoln questions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2018/813813.md?page=6)