# Botticelli - May 2019

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [May 3, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407 "2019-05-03T03:22:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 12

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/221 "2019-05-24T17:44:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you the world’s most famous Australopithecus?
> 2. Were you a leading celebrity impressionist of the 1960’s?
> 3. Did you write the poem “I have a little budgie”?  
> Not Lucy, Rich Little and dunno.

Correct x2, John Lennon.

DQ: Hugo or Nebula award winning book?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/222 "2019-05-24T21:18:04Z")

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Previous IQs:

IQ1: Are you a Richard Scarry character who only owns a jaunty Tyrolean hat, and a single sock? - Correct, Lowly Worm.

IQ2: Are you a basketball player who brought your native city its first championship in a major sport since 1964? _Dude_! You’re a Clevelander! I figured this would be a gimme! LeBron James, of course!\*

IQ3: Are you a Hall of Fame wide receiver who played for the Steelers in the 1970s? - Correct, Lynn Swann.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …  
> Not Lowly Worm, Larry Bird or Lynn Swann.

IQ1: Did you command the British cavalry at the Battle of Waterloo?

IQ2: Were you the Sicilian-American mafioso who created the modern Syndicate by arranging the murders of bosses Joe Masseria and Salvatore Maranzano, and replacing them with a council of the major organized crime families?

IQ3: Were you the Jewish Polish-American partner and friend of IQ2, who established casinos in Cuba, and lost his fortune when Castro overthrew your ally Batista?

DQ1: Human?

\*Okay, nitpick, LeBron is from Akron, not Cleveland. Close enough.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/223 "2019-05-25T00:12:16Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you Itchy Brother’s brother?  
> IQ2: Were you someone’s Sweet Babboo?  
> IQ3: Are you (‘L’) one of your (EH’s) favourite people to ask IQs about?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno, not Linus Van Pelt, and not Abraham Lincoln.

King Leonardo.  
Correct.  
:D.  
DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/224 "2019-05-25T14:46:01Z")

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DQ: From a novel?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/225 "2019-05-25T14:58:15Z")

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IQ1: Were you a Bavarian king who was declared insane and died a few days later under mysterious circumstances?  
IQ2: Was your TV show cancelled because characters in the show also appeared in commercials broadcast during the show?  
IQ3: Are you one of the stars of the Blue Collar Comedy Tour?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/226 "2019-05-25T21:02:28Z")

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IQ1: Are you a beautiful maiden who threw herself into the Rhine in despair over a faithless lover and transformed into a siren?  
IQ2: Is your biopic “The Coal Miner’s Daughter”?  
IQ3: Are you a comic strip moppet whose frenemy is named Tubby?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/227 "2019-05-25T23:35:40Z")

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LeBron! :smack: Of course. Too close to home, I guess.

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> …
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> IQ1: Did you command the British cavalry at the Battle of Waterloo?
> 
> IQ2: Were you the Sicilian-American mafioso who created the modern Syndicate by arranging the murders of bosses Joe Masseria and Salvatore Maranzano, and replacing them with a council of the major organized crime families?
> 
> IQ3: Were you the Jewish Polish-American partner and friend of IQ2, who established casinos in Cuba, and lost his fortune when Castro overthrew your ally Batista?..

Dunno, not Lucky Luciano, and dunno.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you a Bavarian king who was declared insane and died a few days later under mysterious circumstances?  
> IQ2: Was your TV show cancelled because characters in the show also appeared in commercials broadcast during the show?  
> IQ3: Are you one of the stars of the Blue Collar Comedy Tour?

Not Mad King Ludwig, dunno, and not Larry the Cable Guy.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a beautiful maiden who threw herself into the Rhine in despair over a faithless lover and transformed into a siren?  
> IQ2: Is your biopic “The Coal Miner’s Daughter”?  
> IQ3: Are you a comic strip moppet whose frenemy is named Tubby?

Not Lorelei, Loretta Lynn or Little Lulu (I read those when I was a kid!).

L.

1. fictional
2. male
3. only name begins with L
4. originally from literature
5. not the protagonist
6. born after 1800
7. created by an American author or authors
8. created after 1900
9. from science fiction, fantasy or horror
10. not the antagonist/villain
11. not a sidekick to protagonist
12. has not transitioned to movies
13. created after 1970
14. from a work of science fiction
15. not adapted to TV/streaming
16. not a Hugo or Nebula award-winning book
17. human
18. from a novel

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/228 "2019-05-25T23:47:00Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you a Bavarian king who was declared insane and died a few days later under mysterious circumstances?  
> IQ2: Was your TV show cancelled because characters in the show also appeared in commercials broadcast during the show?  
> IQ3: Are you one of the stars of the Blue Collar Comedy Tour?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Mad King Ludwig, dunno, and not Larry the Cable Guy.

Correct.  
Linus the Lionhearted. The other characters on the show included Sugar Bear (Sugar Crisp), So Hi (the Post version of Rice Krispies), and Lovable Truly (Alpha-Bits).  
Correct.  
DQ: Author’s last name starts with A-K?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/229 "2019-05-26T01:17:04Z")

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SMV’s two DQs will put us over 20. Time to ponder…

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/230 "2019-05-26T03:42:16Z")

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Previous IQs:

IQ1: Did you command the British cavalry at the Battle of Waterloo? - Lord Lucan.

IQ2: Were you the Sicilian-American mafioso who created the modern Syndicate by arranging the murders of bosses Joe Masseria and Salvatore Maranzano, and replacing them with a council of the major organized crime families? - Correct, Salvatore “Charlie Lucky” Luciano.

IQ3: Were you the Jewish Polish-American partner and friend of IQ2, who established casinos in Cuba, and lost his fortune when Castro overthrew your ally Batista? - Meyer Lansky.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> LeBron! :smack: Of course. Too close to home, I guess.  
> Dunno, not Lucky Luciano, and dunno.
> 
> L.
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> 1. fictional
> 2. male
> 3. only name begins with L
> 4. originally from literature
> 5. not the protagonist
> 6. born after 1800
> 7. created by an American author or authors
> 8. created after 1900
> 9. from science fiction, fantasy or horror
> 10. not the antagonist/villain
> 11. not a sidekick to protagonist
> 12. has not transitioned to movies
> 13. created after 1970
> 14. from a work of science fiction
> 15. not adapted to TV/streaming
> 16. not a Hugo or Nebula award-winning book
> 17. human
> 18. from a novel

DQ1: Any special powers or abilities?

DQ2: Written in 21st century?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/231 "2019-05-26T15:55:05Z")

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L.

1. fictional
2. male
3. only name begins with L
4. originally from literature
5. not the protagonist
6. born after 1800
7. created by an American author or authors
8. created after 1900
9. from science fiction, fantasy or horror
10. not the antagonist/villain
11. not a sidekick to protagonist
12. has not transitioned to movies
13. created after 1970
14. from a work of science fiction
15. not adapted to TV/streaming
16. not a Hugo or Nebula award-winning book
17. human
18. from a novel
19. author’s last name doesn’t start with A-K
20. no known special powers or abilities
21. not written in 21st century

No more IQs; please ask all earned DQs by noon EST tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/232 "2019-05-26T19:12:24Z")

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DQ: From a series of novels?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/233 "2019-05-26T19:43:50Z")

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A side note - **SCAdian** pointed out to me that I answered one of my IQs incorrectly; Lord Lucan commanded the British cavalry at the battle of Balaclava, not Waterloo. The British cavalry at Waterloo was (badly) led by the earl of Uxbridge.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/234 "2019-05-27T21:49:25Z")

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No worries, **SMV**.

L.

1. fictional
2. male
3. only name begins with L
4. originally from literature
5. not the protagonist
6. born after 1800
7. created by an American author or authors
8. created after 1900
9. from science fiction, fantasy or horror
10. not the antagonist/villain
11. not a sidekick to protagonist
12. has not transitioned to movies
13. created after 1970
14. from a work of science fiction
15. not adapted to TV/streaming
16. not a Hugo or Nebula award-winning book
17. human
18. from a novel
19. author’s last name doesn’t start with A-K
20. no known special powers or abilities
21. not written in 21st century
22. from a series of novels

Please ask all earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions by 6pm EST tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/235 "2019-05-28T01:37:30Z")

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To summarise:

Fictional male human with a one-word name, created by an American author (or by American authors) whose name starts with L-Z.  
Originally appeared in an SF novel written 1971-2000, which was part of a series, did not receive a Hugo or a Nebula, and has not been adapted for film, TV, or streaming. (Or if it was, he was left out of the adaptation.)  
Was not the protagonist, a sidekick, or the antagonist, and has no known special powers or abilities.  
Hmmm…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/236 "2019-05-28T01:59:50Z")

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So it’s not Lazarus Long, Louis Wu or Dr. Emilio Lizardo…

Ponder, ponder, ponder…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/237 "2019-05-28T02:30:38Z")

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Norton, Lackey, Stirling, Turtledove, McCaffrey, Moon, Pournelle, Niven, Le Guin, Pohl, Zelazny, Varley, Moore…

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/238 "2019-05-28T02:33:42Z")

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I got bupkis, save an intuition I offer to anyone: maybe a character from Ursula LeGuin?

ETA: ninja’d!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/239 "2019-05-28T04:25:42Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Norton, Lackey, Stirling, Turtledove, McCaffrey, Moon, Pournelle, Niven, Le Guin, Pohl, Zelazny, Varley, Moore…

You left out Asimov and Heinlein… but here’s a freebie clue: they didn’t create this character.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2019/833407/240 "2019-05-28T05:10:54Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> You left out Asimov and Heinlein… but here’s a freebie clue: they didn’t create this character.

Obviously.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> 1. author’s last name doesn’t start with A-K

😃

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