# Botticelli - May 2022

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [May 2, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823 "2022-05-02T17:00:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/61 "2022-05-11T14:28:47Z")

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DQ: Lived to be over 60?

IOs:

1. Were you born Frances Gumm?
2. Did you date Selena Gomez for awhile?
3. Did you recently die the day before you were to be inducted into a Hall of Fame?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/62 "2022-05-11T16:57:42Z")

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**J**

1. Real
2. Last name starts with J
3. Male
4. Dead
5. American
6. Did not die after 1900
7. Not known for the Arts
8. Not political/military
9. Died after 1800
10. Not an athlete
11. Died after 1850
12. Not known for business
13. Not known for crime
14. Not best known for science
15. Best known for a single incident or event today, although was known for several profession-related activities during his lifetime
16. Not known from something relating to the Civil War
17. Died before reaching the age of 60

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/63 "2022-05-11T16:58:19Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> 1. Were you born Frances Gumm?
> 2. Did you date Selena Gomez for awhile?
> 3. Did you recently die the day before you were to be inducted into a Hall of Fame?

Not Judy Garland  
Not Justin Bieber  
DQ

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/64 "2022-05-11T17:13:31Z")

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IQs:

Did you have official letters retyped after you bled on them with your rash-infected hands?  
A tailor by trade, did your wife teach you how to read?  
Were you either of two FBI special agents summoned to the Nakatomi Tower?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/65 "2022-05-11T17:53:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you have official letters retyped after you bled on them with your rash-infected hands?  
> A tailor by trade, did your wife teach you how to read?  
> Were you either of two FBI special agents summoned to the Nakatomi Tower?

2 DQs  
Neither Big Johnson nor Little Johnson

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/66 "2022-05-11T18:52:32Z")

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Lyndon Johnson (as a Congressional aide), Andrew Johnson, and yes, Johnson and Johnson (“No relation”) in _Die Hard_.

Johnson x3!

DQs:

Won a top award in his field?  
Associated with NYC?

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/67 "2022-05-11T19:37:18Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > 1. Were you born Frances Gumm?
> > 
> > > 1. Did you date Selena Gomez for awhile?
> > > 2. Did you recently die the day before you were to be inducted into a Hall of Fame?
> 
> Not Judy Garland  
> Not Justin Bieber  
> DQ

Correct, Correct, Naomi Judd.

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/68 "2022-05-11T19:39:03Z")

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**J**

1. Real
2. Last name starts with J
3. Male
4. Dead
5. American
6. Did not die after 1900
7. Not known for the Arts
8. Not political/military
9. Died after 1800
10. Not an athlete
11. Died after 1850
12. Not known for business
13. Not known for crime
14. Not best known for science
15. Best known for a single incident or event today, although was known for several profession-related activities during his lifetime
16. Not known from something relating to the Civil War
17. Died before reaching the age of 60
18. Did not win a top award in his field - unless you count being on a postage stamp
19. Not associated with NYC

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/69 "2022-05-12T15:36:52Z")

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Can’t figure out who this is. I yield my reserved DQ to whoever would like to use it.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/70 "2022-05-12T18:02:23Z")

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DQ: Known to be the first at doing something?  
EHDQ: Known for writing?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/71 "2022-05-12T18:21:08Z")

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**J**

1. Real
2. Last name starts with J
3. Male
4. Dead
5. American
6. Did not die after 1900
7. Not known for the Arts
8. Not political/military
9. Died after 1800
10. Not an athlete
11. Died after 1850
12. Not known for business
13. Not known for crime
14. Not best known for science
15. Best known for a single incident or event today, although was known for several profession-related activities during his lifetime
16. Not known from something relating to the Civil War
17. Died before reaching the age of 60
18. Did not win a top award in his field - unless you count being on a postage stamp
19. Not associated with NYC
20. Not known to be the first at doing something

I would consider “Known for writing” to have been addressed in #7 “Not known for the arts”.  
Have another DQ.

We’re at 20, so no more IQs, please.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/72 "2022-05-12T18:23:40Z")

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DQ: Died in the single event or incident?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/73 "2022-05-12T18:24:17Z")

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**J**

1. Real
2. Last name starts with J
3. Male
4. Dead
5. American
6. Did not die after 1900
7. Not known for the Arts
8. Not political/military
9. Died after 1800
10. Not an athlete
11. Died after 1850
12. Not known for business
13. Not known for crime
14. Not best known for science
15. Best known for a single incident or event today, although was known for several profession-related activities during his lifetime
16. Not known from something relating to the Civil War
17. Died before reaching the age of 60
18. Did not win a top award in his field - unless you count being on a postage stamp
19. Not associated with NYC
20. Not known to be the first at doing something
21. Died in the single event or incident

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/74 "2022-05-12T22:33:22Z")

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DQ: Are you Casey Jones?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/75 "2022-05-12T23:23:04Z")

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**Yes!! I am Casey Jones!**  
I had phrase #6 somewhat awkwardly because he died in 1900, so I couldn’t replace “after” with “before”.

> **[Casey Jones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Jones)**
>
> Pages for logged out editors learn more
> 
> John Luther "Casey" Jones (March 14, 1863 – April 30, 1900) was an American railroader who was killed when his passenger train collided with a stalled freight train at Vaughan, Mississippi.
> Jones was a locomotive engineer for the Illinois Central Railroad, based in Memphis, Tennessee, and Jackson, Mississippi. He was noted for his exceptionally punctual schedules, which sometimes required a degree of risk, though this was not a factor on his fata...

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/76 "2022-05-13T02:39:33Z")

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Nice one! I didn’t remember when it happened, just the song from my childhood.

I am

[![](https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.87a7ad27bc2ae3117e520bd2af6d34d0?rik=yphKWRhudb2lUQ&pid=ImgRaw&r=0) ](https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.87a7ad27bc2ae3117e520bd2af6d34d0?rik=yphKWRhudb2lUQ&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/77 "2022-05-13T15:22:48Z")

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Congrats, Prof.!

IQs:  
1. Did you write “The New Colossus"?  
2. Were you an Albanian dictator?  
3. Were you very close (literally, all the time) to your brother Chang?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/78 "2022-05-13T16:00:29Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you write “The New Colossus"?
> 2. Were you an Albanian dictator?
> 3. Were you very close (literally, all the time) to your brother Chang?

#1. I am not Emma Lazarus.  
#2. Take a DQ.  
#3. I am not Eng (??)

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/79 "2022-05-13T16:28:42Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> #1. I am not Emma Lazarus.  
> #2. Take a DQ.  
> #3. I am not Eng (??)

1 was correct; 2 was Enver Hoxha; 3 was indeed Eng Bunker.

DQ: real?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2022/963823/80 "2022-05-13T19:32:18Z")

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DQ:

1. Real

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