# Botticelli - May 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [April 30, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367 "2023-04-30T13:08:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 19

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/361 "2023-05-26T16:03:03Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you one of the Tanakh’s minor prophets?
2. Are you a 12 c. Irish archbishop, who prophesized a list of 112 future popes?
3. Are you the brother of _Angela’s Ashes_ author Frank McCourt, and author of your own memoir _A Monk Swimming_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/362 "2023-05-26T16:10:26Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> 1. I’m not Martin? (based purely on the question progression)
> 2. I’m not Martin Luther
> 3. I’m **not** Martin Luther King Jr.

A clean sweep!

IQs:  
1. Were you a real-life person and the title character of a 1980 film produced by Mel Brooks?  
2. Did you write _World War Z_?  
3. Are you a redheaded tomboy on _Stranger Things_?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/363 "2023-05-26T16:56:07Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you found the Grand Duchy of Tuscany?
2. Were you a descendant of the above who was a patron of Leonardo da Vinci?
3. Did you write 12 books of epigrams?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/364 "2023-05-26T19:39:42Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you command The Citadel after WWII? - Gen. Mark Clark  
Did you costar in _The Karate Kid_? - Ralph Macchio  
Were you no vampire gunslinger, despite your name? - Bat Masterson

DQs:

From the British Isles? (asking again; see post 356)  
Activist or reformer of some kind?  
Died before 1700?

Three DQs reserved.

IQs:

Were you the Nazi assassin in _The ODESSA File_?  
Were you a sheepdog sung about in a pop song?  
Do you command the Planetary Union starship _Orville_?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/365 "2023-05-26T21:56:20Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > IQ1: Were you known as the Angel of Death, and buried in Brazil under the false name Wolfgang Gerhard?  
> > IQ2: Well, you came and you gave without taking?  
> > IQ3: Did you sing about the answer to IQ2?
> 
> 1. Oh that angel of death. I’m not Joseph Mengle
> 2. I’m not Maria?
> 3. Take a DQ

Correct  
Mandy, from the song of the same name sung by…  
Barry Manilow

Holding 2 DQs

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/366 "2023-05-27T05:11:42Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> - Are you one of the Tanakh’s minor prophets?
> - Are you a 12 c. Irish archbishop, who prophesized a list of 112 future popes?
> - Are you the brother of _Angela’s Ashes_ author Frank McCourt, and author of your own memoir _A Monk Swimming_?

take 3 DQ

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. Were you a real-life person and the title character of a 1980 film produced by Mel Brooks?
> 2. Did you write _World War Z_?
> 3. Are you a redheaded tomboy on _Stranger Things_?

1. DQ
2. DQ
3. I’m not Max

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> - Did you found the Grand Duchy of Tuscany?
> - Were you a descendant of the above who was a patron of Leonardo da Vinci?
> - Did you write 12 books of epigrams?

Take 3 DQs

v

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you the Nazi assassin in _The ODESSA File_?  
> Were you a sheepdog sung about in a pop song?  
> Do you command the Planetary Union starship _Orville_?

3 more DQs (and darn it I actually was watching Orville a couple of month ago but I can’t remember the captain’s name.)

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> 1. Real
> 2. Male
> 3. Last name starts with M
> 4. Contributed to the Arts but is not primarily known for them
> 5. Born before 1960
> 6. Not North American
> 7. Dead
> 8. European
> 9. Not active in 20th century
> 10. Died before 1800
> 11. Known for Politics but not a politician
> 12. Not from the British Isles (sorry for missing this Elendil)
> 13. Definitely not an activist of reformer
> 14. Died before 1700

I think we are well over 20 DQs at this point so lets try to get all of them in by noon Sunday.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/367 "2023-05-27T05:28:16Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you one of the Tanakh’s minor prophets?
> 2. Are you a 12 c. Irish archbishop, who prophesized a list of 112 future popes?
> 3. Are you the brother of _Angela’s Ashes_ author Frank McCourt, and author of your own memoir _A Monk Swimming_?

1. Malachi, reputed author of the last book of the Tanakh, or, to Christians, Old Testament.
2. St. Malachi of Armagh, to whom was ascribed a list of future Popes, clearly written some centuries after his death.
3. Malachy McCourt.

DQ:

1. Italian?
2. Does your first name begin with _N_?
3. Is your name a byword for political cynicism and devious scheming?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/368 "2023-05-27T06:36:52Z")

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Well that was quick!

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with M
4. Contributed to the Arts but is not primarily known for them
5. Born before 1960
6. Not North American
7. Dead
8. European
9. Not active in 20th century
10. Died before 1800
11. Known for Politics but not a politician
12. Not from the British Isles (sorry for missing this Elendil)
13. Definitely not an activist of reformer
14. Died before 1700
15. Italian
16. First name Begins with N
17. Name is a byword for political cynicism and devious scheming

Since I’m a bit new to this I’m not sure whether the etiquette is to wait for Slow\_moving\_vehicle to make his guess official or just go ahead and reveal the answer declare him the winner now.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/369 "2023-05-27T12:46:59Z")

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Okay, I’ll make it official:

Are you Niccolò Machiavelli?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/370 "2023-05-27T14:00:59Z")

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Good job, SMV!

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/371 "2023-05-27T16:35:52Z")

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Thank you!

Do I need to wait for @Buck_Godot to make it official, or can I go ahead and start the next round?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/372 "2023-05-27T16:57:19Z")

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Wait for him to make it official.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/373 "2023-05-27T18:28:21Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you the Nazi assassin in _The ODESSA File_? - Mackensen  
Were you a sheepdog sung about in a pop song? - the titular Paul McCartney pet in “Martha My Dear”  
Do you command the Planetary Union starship _Orville_? - Capt. Ed Mercer

Six DQs reserved, but I can see I won’t be using them 😉

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/374 "2023-05-27T21:02:56Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Okay, I’ll make it official:
> 
> Are you Niccolò Machiavelli? Plotter Schemer and all around not nice guy.

Yes I am. Good job Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle.

> **[Niccolò Machiavelli](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli)**
>
> Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli\[a\] (3 May 1469 – 21 June 1527) was an Italian diplomat, author, philosopher and historian who lived during the Renaissance. He is best known for his political treatise The Prince (Il Principe), written around 1513 but not published until 1532, five years after his death. He has often been called the father of modern political philosophy and political science.
> For many years he served as a senior official in the Florentine Republic with responsibilities in di...

Next round to you.

Sorry for getting this response out late I couldn’t get to the computer this morning.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/375 "2023-05-27T21:52:42Z")

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No worries, and thanks, **BG**!

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/376 "2023-05-27T22:03:29Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you a sheepdog sung about in a pop song? - the titular Paul McCartney pet in “Martha My Dear”

Today I learned something new. I had no idea that it was directed at his dog.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/377 "2023-05-28T02:18:55Z")

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Thanks, all!

Sorry it’s been a minute since I’ve been able to get to a computer to start the next round. And I’m not going to delay it trying to figure out how to upload a fancy-dan calligraphy letter from my phone, so here goes:

I am “J”.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/378 "2023-05-28T02:45:16Z")

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IQs:

Did Dolly Parton famously sing about you?  
Have you played a blue-collar husband, the Speaker of the House and an evangelist?  
Were you fooled by the Red-Headed League?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/379 "2023-05-28T03:19:05Z")

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Congrats, SMV!

IQs:  
1. Were you a real-life person and the title character of a 1980 film produced by Mel Brooks?  
2. Do you currently write and draw the comic strip _Nancy_?  
3. Were you the Democratic candidate for vice president in 2000?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2023/983367/380 "2023-05-28T04:01:25Z")

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IQs

1. When you got fired from your lucrative career for writing a manifesto, did you take the office fish with you?
2. Were you Walter Whites main Partner in crime?
3. Did you change your name to Saul Goodman?

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