# Botticelli - May 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [May 5, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159 "2024-05-05T15:21:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/141 "2024-05-21T13:16:18Z")

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Oh, _so_ close - it’s Quentinus Basketball-_Smith._

JK, of course.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/142 "2024-05-21T20:54:50Z")

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I’m drawing a blank.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/143 "2024-05-22T12:57:59Z")

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Well, no one’s even guessed, but I am **Quenton Cassidy** , hero of John L. Parker’s classic novel about distance running _Once A Runner_, as well as a sequel, _Again To Carthage_, and, I’ve just found out, a prequel, _Running In The Rain_. Everyone who’s ever been on a high school track team, or runs marathons on weekends, or follows track and field, has read this novel. It’s a niche novel, yes, but a New York Times bestseller, and fans still enter Cassidy’s name in races. He has Facebook and Twitter accounts, as well.

> **[Once a Runner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_a_Runner)**
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> Once a Runner is a novel by American author John L. Parker Jr. and was first published in 1978 by Cedarwinds (0915297019). In Once a Runner, Parker illustrates the hard work and dedication required of an elite runner. A reissue was released in 2009. The novel was followed by the sequel Again to Carthage in 2008 and the prequel Racing the Rain in 2015.
> The novel opens with a physically fit young man standing on a track, watching as "the night joggers" toil around him. He begins to walk toward th...

So. Too obscure? I’ll let you all decide. If you say that it was, I’ll yield the next turn to someone who hasn’t had one in a while – **kitap** or **SunUp** , maybe.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/144 "2024-05-22T13:27:25Z")

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I haven’t heard of him or the book.  
But, the rule is, if you pick someone too obscure, the next round is hosted by the previous host. In this case, that would be me.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/145 "2024-05-22T13:36:45Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> So. Too obscure?

I have not heard of the book.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/146 "2024-05-22T15:51:50Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> So. Too obscure?

Hmmm. I’m trying to think of a good analogy - maybe Tom West from _The Soul of a New Machine_? Nonfiction, but definitely well-known in a niche despite being a Pulitzer Prize winner. Would you feel hard done by if I pulled Tom West out for a round?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/147 "2024-05-22T17:50:04Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > So. Too obscure?
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> Hmmm. I’m trying to think of a good analogy - maybe Tom West from _The Soul of a New Machine_? Nonfiction, but definitely well-known in a niche despite being a Pulitzer Prize winner Would you feel hard done by if I pulled Tom West out for a round?

Not especially; I’d just assume it’s another bit of culture or history I’ve missed - this game is good at exposing the lacunae in my knowledge. (I’ve never seen _Family Guy_ or _South Park_, for instance; so references to those go right over my head.)

I did say at the beginning of the round that I wasn’t sure how well-known the character was, but that I wanted to dust off a letter we’d not used in a while.

I will yield back to @Prof.Pepperwinkle; as he pointed out, the turn goes back to the previous player, if the subject is not notable. You’re up, **Prof**!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/148 "2024-05-22T18:30:21Z")

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I’ve fouled out hosting at least five times myself.

However, SCAdian, EH and kitap (and maybe someone else?) haven’t responded yet. So I won’t be taking the reins just now.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/149 "2024-05-23T00:39:32Z")

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Go ahead!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/150 "2024-05-23T02:16:10Z")

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Never heard of that character or that book.

Please proceed, **Prof. P.**

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/151 "2024-05-23T13:51:07Z")

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Well, considering SCAdian said “ditto:” earlier about sports books, I’ll start.

I am…

[![](https://cdn.dribbble.com/users/8113706/screenshots/19425782/c_icon_4x.jpg) ](https://cdn.dribbble.com/users/8113706/screenshots/19425782/c_icon_4x.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/152 "2024-05-23T16:17:36Z")

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@SCAdian

Just to make sure.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/153 "2024-05-23T17:18:47Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you help command (and reform) the Continental Army’s cavalry during the American Revolution?
2. Did you command a Union cavalry brigade during the battle of Gettysburg, turning aside a third-day attack by General Stuart?
3. Did you command the U.S. First Cavalry division before becoming a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/154 "2024-05-23T18:53:21Z")

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C it is.

IQs:

Did Lincoln appoint you Chief Justice of the United States in 1864?  
Did you play Leeta on _ST:DS9_?  
Did you give your name to one-half of a great Cleveland institution of higher learning?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/155 "2024-05-23T19:03:32Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you help command (and reform) the Continental Army’s cavalry during the American Revolution?
> 2. Did you command a Union cavalry brigade during the battle of Gettysburg, turning aside a third-day attack by General Stuart?
> 3. Did you command the U.S. First Cavalry division before becoming a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004?

Take 3 DQs,

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did Lincoln appoint you Chief Justice of the United States in 1864?  
> Did you play Leeta on _ST:DS9_?  
> Did you give your name to one-half of a great Cleveland institution of higher learning?

1. I am not Salmon P. Chase (?)  
Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/156 "2024-05-23T19:15:24Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > [@SunUp](#):
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> > 1. Did you help command (and reform) the Continental Army’s cavalry during the American Revolution?
> > 2. Did you command a Union cavalry brigade during the battle of Gettysburg, turning aside a third-day attack by General Stuart?
> > 3. Did you command the U.S. First Cavalry division before becoming a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004?
> 
> Take 3 DQs,

Casimir Pulaski, George Armstrong Custer, and Wesley Clark.

An all-cavalry IQ!

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?
3. First name starts with C?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/157 "2024-05-23T19:16:00Z")

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Yes, Salmon P. Chase. Then Chase Masterson and Leonard Case, of what would become Case Western Reserve University. C[h]ase x3!

DQs:

American?

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Were you the Finch family’s cook and housekeeper?  
Were you the most prominent Confederate general killed at the 1864 Battle of Franklin?  
Did you and another writer agree as to how each would be credited on both sides of the Atlantic?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/158 "2024-05-23T19:19:29Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. First name begins with C
4. Not American

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/159 "2024-05-23T19:22:06Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you the Finch family’s cook and housekeeper?  
> Were you the most prominent Confederate general killed at the 1864 Battle of Franklin?  
> Did you and another writer agree as to how each would be credited on both sides of the Atlantic?

1. I am not Sebastian Cabot.
2. I am not Gen. Cadaverous.
3. Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2024/1001159/160 "2024-05-23T19:25:11Z")

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IQs:  
1. Were you a _very_ close associate, at the very least, of J. Edgar Hoover?  
2. Did you use the pseudonym Mary Westmacott?  
3. Were you Janet, on _The Good Place_?

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