# Botticelli May 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [May 8, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078 "2025-05-08T03:06:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 18

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/341 "2025-05-29T02:18:51Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Speaking of Garfield, are you Garfield’s veterinarian?
> 2. Do you keep bleeding love when you are cut open?
> 3. Did you lead your brigade to the high water mark of the Confederacy?

Not Linda, dunno, and not Lewis Armistead.

L.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name begins with L
4. a main character
5. not originally from movies and/or TV
6. created after 1950
7. American creator

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/342 "2025-05-29T02:38:41Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you author a book of gothic horror as well as books for young adults and children?
2. Did your character enter into a gentleman’s agreement that became one of the greatest episodes in the history of television comedy?
3. Did you win an Oscar in 1975 for playing one of the greatest villains in cinematic history?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/343 "2025-05-29T03:35:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@SunUp](#):
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> > 1. Speaking of Garfield, are you Garfield’s veterinarian?
> > 2. Do you keep bleeding love when you are cut open?
> > 3. Did you lead your brigade to the high water mark of the Confederacy?
> 
> Not Linda, dunno, and not Lewis Armistead.

Liz, Leona Lewis, and correct.

DQs:

From prose fiction?  
American character?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/344 "2025-05-29T14:29:45Z")

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IQs:  
1. Did you voice Hermes Conrad?  
2. Does your ghost appear in the _Venture Bros._ episode “Guess Who’s Coming to State Dinner?”  
3. Did William Shatner play you on _Star Trek_ (the original series)?

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/345 "2025-05-29T16:08:30Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Are you the epistolary alter ego of Don Novello?
> > 2. Are you a morbidly obese associate of Richie Rich?
> > 3. Did the Weathermen help you break out of prison and smuggle you into Algeria?
> 
> Not Lazlo Toth, not Lawrence Large and dunno.

Lazlo Toth is correct. The fat girl was Little Lotta, who I see was phased out of the Harvey line shortly after my own childhood for obvious reasons. #3 was Timothy Leary.

DQs:

1. Is the fiction the character appears in realistic (i.e. no supernatural or fantastic elements)?
2. Does the character appear in only one major work (as opposed to a series)?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/346 "2025-05-29T17:08:49Z")

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IQs:

1. Did Thomas Haden Church play you in **George of the Jungle**?
2. Did you play Ursula in that same film?
3. Did you play Mary Hartman?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/347 "2025-05-29T19:22:33Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you author a book of gothic horror as well as books for young adults and children?
> 2. Did your character enter into a gentleman’s agreement that became one of the greatest episodes in the history of television comedy?
> 3. Did you win an Oscar in 1975 for playing one of the greatest villains in cinematic history?

Not L. Frank Baum, Larry David or Frank Langella.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> IQs:  
> 1. Did you voice Hermes Conrad?  
> 2. Does your ghost appear in the _Venture Bros._ episode “Guess Who’s Coming to State Dinner?”  
> 3. Did William Shatner play you on _Star Trek_ (the original series)?

Dunno, not Abraham Lincoln and not Ljames T. Kirk.

> [@kitap](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did Thomas Haden Church play you in **George of the Jungle**?
> 2. Did you play Ursula in that same film?
> 3. Did you play Mary Hartman?

Not Lothar, not Laura Linney and not Louise Lasser.

L.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name begins with L
4. a main character
5. not originally from movies and/or TV
6. created after 1950
7. American creator
8. from prose fiction
9. unclear, but apparently not an American character
10. the fiction the character appears in is somewhat realistic (no supernatural but several fantastic elements)
11. character appears in more than one major work

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/348 "2025-05-29T19:26:51Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did Thomas Haden Church play you in **George of the Jungle**?
> 2. Did you play Ursula in that same film?
> 3. Did you play Mary Hartman?

Lyle, Leslie Mann, correct.

DQs:

1. Caucasian.
2. Setting contemporary to its writing?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/349 "2025-05-29T19:28:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno, not Abraham Lincoln and not Ljames T. Kirk.

Respectively:  
1 was Phil LaMarr; 2 is correct; 3 was Janice Lester, in “Turnabout Intruder”.

DQs:  
1. adapted into film and/or TV?  
2. created before 1987?

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/350 "2025-05-29T20:09:13Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you a Robert Heinlein character with an unusually long lifespan?
2. Were you Shirley’s roommate and co-worker?
3. Were you Shirley’s neighbor?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/351 "2025-05-29T23:32:00Z")

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IQs:  
1. On a Nickelodeon show are you the middle child in a large family, with ten siblings?  
2. Are you one of those siblings?  
3. Was your son a clone of JFK?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/352 "2025-05-30T01:47:10Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you play the explosives expert on _Hogan’s Heroes_?
2. Did you maintain that your most successful TV role ruined your movie career?
3. Did you play a brainwashed assassin in _The Manchurian Candidate_?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/353 "2025-05-30T02:58:59Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@knoodler](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did you author a book of gothic horror as well as books for young adults and children?
> > 2. Did your character enter into a gentleman’s agreement that became one of the greatest episodes in the history of television comedy?
> > 3. Did you win an Oscar in 1975 for playing one of the greatest villains in cinematic history?
> 
> Not L. Frank Baum, Larry David or Frank Langella.

1. Robert Louis Stevenson
2. Julia Louis-Dreyfus (_Seinfeld;_ The Contest)
3. Louise Fletcher (Nurse Ratched; _One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest_)

3 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/354 "2025-05-30T03:27:36Z")

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Good one about Janice Lester, **DLR**.

> [@Thing.Fish](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you a Robert Heinlein character with an unusually long lifespan?
> 2. Were you Shirley’s roommate and co-worker?
> 3. Were you Shirley’s neighbor?

Not Lazarus Long, not Laverne, and not Lenny.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> IQs:  
> 1. On a Nickelodeon show are you the middle child in a large family, with ten siblings?  
> 2. Are you one of those siblings?  
> 3. Was your son a clone of JFK?

Not Luanne, not Lester, and not Louis Kellogg.

> [@SunUp](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you play the explosives expert on _Hogan’s Heroes_?
> 2. Did you maintain that your most successful TV role ruined your movie career?
> 3. Did you play a brainwashed assassin in _The Manchurian Candidate_?

Not Lawrence Cleary, not Lawrence, and not Lawrence Harvey (whose British accent went unremarked-upon, as I recall).

L.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name begins with L
4. a main character
5. not originally from movies and/or TV
6. created after 1950
7. American creator
8. from prose fiction
9. unclear, but apparently not an American character
10. the fiction the character appears in is somewhat realistic (no supernatural but several fantastic elements)
11. character appears in more than one major work
12. not Caucasian
13. setting contemporary to its writing
14. adapted into film and/or TV
15. created before 1987

We now have, I believe, five reserved DQs, so no more IQs, please.

Please ask all earned DQs by noon EST Saturday.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/355 "2025-05-30T03:38:55Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> > [@SunUp](#):
> >
> > 1. Did you play the explosives expert on _Hogan’s Heroes_?
> > 2. Did you maintain that your most successful TV role ruined your movie career?
> > 3. Did you play a brainwashed assassin in _The Manchurian Candidate_?
> 
> Not Lawrence Cleary, not Lawrence, and not Lawrence Harvey (whose British accent went unremarked-upon, as I recall).

Correct on Lawrence Harvey (though I was actually thinking of Liev Schrieber, of the 2004 remake).  
#1 was Larry Hovis.  
#2 was Tina Louise.

DQ1: Title character?  
DQ2: Created before 1969?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/356 "2025-05-30T04:13:11Z")

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L.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name begins with L
4. a main character
5. not originally from movies and/or TV
6. created after 1950
7. American creator
8. from prose fiction
9. unclear, but apparently not an American character
10. the fiction the character appears in is somewhat realistic (no supernatural but several fantastic elements)
11. character appears in more than one major work
12. not Caucasian
13. setting contemporary to its writing
14. adapted into film and/or TV
15. created before 1987
16. was the title character of at least one work
17. created before 1969

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/357 "2025-05-30T13:51:12Z")

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DQs:

1. Created after 1959?
2. From comedies?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/358 "2025-05-30T13:52:33Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> IQs:  
> 1. On a Nickelodeon show are you the middle child in a large family, with ten siblings?  
> 2. Are you one of those siblings?  
> 3. Was your son a clone of JFK?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Not Luanne, not Lester, and not Louis Kellogg.

Respectively:  
1 was Lincoln Loud, on _The Loud House_; 2 was (among others) Leni, Lori, Lynn, Lucy, Lisa, or Lily Loud; 3 was Lynn Kellogg. Yes, I’ve been reading _Joshua Son of None_, having heard about it in [these very threads](https://boards.straightdope.com/search?q=%22son%20of%20none%22%20botticelli%20%23thread-games%20order%3Alatest) and spotted it in a used bookstore. Finished it late Wednesday night. I like how Nancy Freedman thought the future of television was the “TV globe”.

DQ: movie and/or TV versions better known than prose version?

2 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/359 "2025-05-30T15:39:37Z")

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DQs:

1. Last name begins A-M?
2. Appeared in animation or cartoon?

1 DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/360 "2025-05-30T19:40:55Z")

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_Joshua Son of None_ is a very strange but engrossing book, especially for someone interested in JFK, as I am. I first read it as a teenager and it really grabbed me.

L.

1. fictional
2. male
3. first name begins with L
4. a main character
5. not originally from movies and/or TV
6. created after 1950
7. American creator
8. from prose fiction
9. unclear, but apparently not an American character
10. the fiction the character appears in is somewhat realistic (no supernatural but several fantastic elements)
11. character appears in more than one major work
12. not Caucasian
13. setting contemporary to its writing
14. adapted into film and/or TV
15. created before 1987
16. was the title character of at least one work
17. created before 1969
18. created after 1959
19. not from comedies, although there are certainly humorous elements to the work
20. movie and/or TV versions not better known than prose version, I’d say, but YMMV
21. last name doesn’t begin A-M
22. appeared in animation or cartoon

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