# Botticelli May 2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [May 8, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078 "2025-05-08T03:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/121 "2025-05-12T18:43:25Z")
DQ: American character? That Commodore Perry painting, by the way: [https://x.com/ohiohistory/status/1568570442436296704](https://x.com/ohiohistory/status/1568570442436296704) ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/122 "2025-05-13T00:07:51Z")
H 1, Fictional 2. Female 3. First name begins with H 4, Did not originally appear in prose 5. First appeared in 1950 or later 6. The main protagonist of the best-known story in which I appear 7. By an American author or authors 8. Did not first appear after 1980 9. Not created after 1975 10. Appeared in TV or movies 11. Caucasian 12. Did not first appear on TV 13. Considered a beauty \* 14. First appeared in movies 15. In a genre piece (fantasy, sf, Western, horror, detective, etc.) 16. An ordinary human – no special powers or characteristics that no actual humans have 17. American character \* The character may not be, but the actress certainly is. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/123 "2025-05-13T00:21:20Z")
By my count, Thing Fish has one remaining DQ; DLR and the Prof have three each. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > That Commodore Perry painting, by the way: [https://x.com/ohiohistory/status/1568570442436296704](https://x.com/ohiohistory/status/1568570442436296704) Thanks. Maybe next time I’ll remember it. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/124 "2025-05-13T00:49:22Z")
I’m stumped. Either this is someone I’ve never heard of, or I will be slapping my forehead and loudly exclaiming “D’OH!” when it is revealed. Trying to think of a DQ. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/125 "2025-05-13T01:15:30Z")
DQ: from a movie released before 1963? 2 DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/126 "2025-05-13T01:20:33Z")
H 1, Fictional 2. Female 3. First name begins with H 4, Did not originally appear in prose 5. First appeared in 1950 or later 6. The main protagonist of the best-known story in which I appear 7. By an American author or authors 8. Did not first appear after 1980 9. Not created after 1975 10. Appeared in TV or movies 11. Caucasian 12. Did not appear first on TV 13. Considered a beauty 14. First appeared in movies 15. In a genre piece (fantasy, sf, Western, horror, detective, etc.) 16. An ordinary human – no special powers or characteristics that no actual humans have 17. American character 18. Not from a movie released before 1963 Thing Fish has one remaining DQ, DLR has two, and the Prof has three. Please ask them all by 2100 EDT tomorrow, 13 May. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/127 "2025-05-13T03:46:54Z")
I’m baffled. I’ll yield my DQ to anyone who wants it, ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/128 "2025-05-13T16:01:06Z")
DQ: from a war movie? 1 DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/129 "2025-05-13T16:18:48Z")
H 1, Fictional 2. Female 3. First name begins with H 4, Did not originally appear in prose 5. First appeared in 1950 or later 6. The main protagonist of the best-known story in which I appear 7. By an American author or authors 8. Did not first appear after 1980 9. Not created after 1975 10. Appeared in TV or movies 11. Caucasian 12. Did not appear first on TV 13. Considered a beauty 14. First appeared in movies 15. In a genre piece (fantasy, sf, Western, horror, detective, etc.) 16. An ordinary human – no special powers or characteristics that no actual humans have 17. American character 18. Not from a movie released before 1963 19. Not from a war movie DLR has one remaining DQ, the Prof has three, and there is one up for grabs (courtesy of Thing Fish). Please ask them all by **2300 EDT** today, 13 May. (Note revised deadline time.) ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/130 "2025-05-13T20:07:53Z")
While we’re waiting, I have a rules question (not in any way pertaining to the current game). What if, for instance, the host is thinking of She-Hulk, and an IQ is “Have you been a member of the Fantastic Four?” The correct answer is “yes”, but unless the questioner is intimately familiar with brief plotlines from the 80s, they’re almost certainly thinking of Sue Richards. So what does the host do? Answering the question correctly gives a basically unearned win to the questioner. Asking for clarification gives the game away. And answering “I am not Sue Richards” could arguably throw the questioners so far off the track as to be unfair. (in this particular case, probably not, but maybe in others). ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/131 "2025-05-13T20:08:45Z")
Anyway, what the hell, maybe this can narrow it down a little: DQ: Did you appear in more than one movie? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/132 "2025-05-13T20:19:34Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > The correct answer is “yes”, but unless the questioner is intimately familiar with brief plotlines from the 80s, they’re almost certainly thinking of Sue Richards. So what does the host do? Answering the question correctly gives a basically unearned win to the questioner. Asking for clarification gives the game away. And answering “I am not Sue Richards” could arguably throw the questioners so far off the track as to be unfair. (in this particular case, probably not, but maybe in others). Any valid answer to an IQ yields no DQ, whether it’s the person the questioner was thinking about or not. We had a player back when I first joined in who got ticked off every time we reminded him of this rule. As I recall, he eventually quit playing because of this. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/133 "2025-05-13T20:23:07Z")
H 1, Fictional 2. Female 3. First name begins with H 4, Did not originally appear in prose 5. First appeared in 1950 or later 6. The main protagonist of the best-known story in which I appear 7. By an American author or authors 8. Did not first appear after 1980 9. Not created after 1975 10. Appeared in TV or movies 11. Caucasian 12. Did not appear first on TV 13. Considered a beauty 14. First appeared in movies 15. In a genre piece (fantasy, sf, Western, horror, detective, etc.) 16. An ordinary human – no special powers or characteristics that no actual humans have 17. American character 18. Not from a movie released before 1963 19. Not from a war movie 20. Did not appear in more than one movie DLR has one remaining DQ, and the Prof has three. Please ask them all by **2300 EDT** today, 13 May. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/134 "2025-05-13T23:03:27Z")
Only five hours to go and it’s awfully quiet…will there be last minute shenanigans?? ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/135 "2025-05-13T23:17:47Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Only five hours to go and it’s awfully quiet… _Too_ quiet. (No, really, I’ve got nothin’. Maybe a western? There is one thing I could ask, but really, I’m in the dark here.) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/136 "2025-05-14T00:03:17Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > > IQs: > > > > 1. Were you made an honorary citizen of Greece for your books _The Greek Way_ and _Mythology_? > > 2. Did you play the beauty in the TV serise _Beauty and the Beast_? > > 3. Did you play both Zorros in _Zorro the Gay Blade_? > > Three DQs 1 was Edith Hamilton. 2 was Linda Hamilton. 3 was George Hamilton. DQs: 1. From a horror movie? 2. From a mystery? 3. First name begins with Ha - He? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/137 "2025-05-14T00:19:56Z")
H 1, Fictional 2. Female 3. First name begins with H 4, Did not originally appear in prose 5. First appeared in 1950 or later 6. The main protagonist of the best-known story in which I appear 7. By an American author or authors 8. Did not first appear after 1980 9. Not created after 1975 10. Appeared in TV or movies 11. Caucasian 12. Did not appear first on TV 13. Considered a beauty 14. First appeared in movies 15. In a genre piece (fantasy, sf, Western, horror, detective, etc.) 16. An ordinary human – no special powers or characteristics that no actual humans have 17. American character 18. Not from a movie released before 1963 19. Not from a war movie 20. Did not appear in more than one movie 21. Not from a horror movie 22. Not from a mystery 23. First name begins with Ha - He > [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > There is one thing I could ask, but really, I’m in the dark here. There’s one question I’ve been expecting, bu no one has asked it yet. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/138 "2025-05-14T02:18:54Z")
Well, I was going to try to narrow the name down, but… Final DQ: from a western? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/139 "2025-05-14T02:26:23Z")
H 1, Fictional 2. Female 3. First name begins with H 4, Did not originally appear in prose 5. First appeared in 1950 or later 6. The main protagonist of the best-known story in which I appear 7. By an American author or authors 8. Did not first appear after 1980 9. Not created after 1975 10. Appeared in TV or movies 11. Caucasian 12. Did not appear first on TV 13. Considered a beauty 14. First appeared in movies 15. In a genre piece (fantasy, sf, Western, horror, detective, etc.) 16. An ordinary human – no special powers or characteristics that no actual humans have 17. American character 18. Not from a movie released before 1963 19. Not from a war movie 20. Did not appear in more than one movie 21. Not from a horror movie 22. Not from a mystery 23. First name begins with Ha - He 24. From a western All righty, then. Think it over, discuss it if you want, and ask your “Firstname Lastname” DQs by 0830 EDT Thursday, 15 May, please. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/140 "2025-05-14T03:12:38Z")
You got me. I don’t think I know any female Western characters by name. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078.md?page=8)