# Botticelli May 2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [May 8, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078 "2025-05-08T03:06:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/141 "2025-05-14T03:12:42Z")
Trying to think of classic Westerns from the 1963-75 period. I’m coming up with _For A Few Dollars More_, _The Good, the Bad and the Ugly_, and “Once Upon a Time in the West”. But all I know about those movies is that they exist, I couldn’t tell you who was in them. Some of them were probably made by Italian Sergio Leone. I’m thinking it may not be a well known film, because despite my minimal knowledge of the era, I think a major Western with a female protagonist would be well known just for being unique. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/142 "2025-05-14T03:16:28Z")
Wasn’t there some movie where John Wayne was escorting a cute little girl across the desert or something? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/143 "2025-05-14T03:17:48Z")
Didn’t John Wayne have a few in there? _True Grit_, I think was one of them? That one has a female protagonist. Hmmm… now I’m trying to remember what name Hailee Steinfeld was called in the remake. ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/144 "2025-05-14T03:18:14Z")
True Grit? Her name was Maddie. A Big Hand for the Little Lady, The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing, Cat Ballou, The Cheyenne Social Club… none have female leads whose name begins with H. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/145 "2025-05-14T04:06:30Z")
OK, my official guess is: **Helena Buckett** , the spunky schoolmarm who shows Clint Eastwood which toads to suck in _Really, Really High Plains Drifter._ ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/146 "2025-05-14T14:34:38Z")
That’s a truly lovely guess. All I’ve come up with is Hallie from _The Electric Horseman_, which has the problem of having come out around 1978-1980, and so isn’t the answer. This might be a little girl character. I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/147 "2025-05-14T14:39:15Z")
Oh. Maybe **Hannie Caulder** from the movie of the same name? With Raquel Welch in the title role. I didn’t pay a lot of attention to westerns back in the day, but I did pay attention to Raquel. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/148 "2025-05-14T15:05:33Z")
To be official, DQ: Are you **Hannie Caulder**? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/149 "2025-05-14T19:28:58Z")
Yes! I am indeed vengeful gunslinger (so to speak) Hannie Caulder. I had it, you got it! ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/150 "2025-05-14T19:30:23Z")
Thank you! On to # D! ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/151 "2025-05-14T20:57:14Z")
Congratulations, Prof! IQs: 1. Did you write the hit “Lonely People” for the group America? 2. Did you write “Sometimes When We Touch”? 3. Did you division hold two key gaps at the Battle of South Mountain? ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/152 "2025-05-14T21:06:14Z")
Good job, **Prof**! I should’ve remembered that movie, I saw it on a double bill with _Kansas City Bomber_. And great game, **SCA**! IQs: 1. Were you distantly related to your royal husband? 2. Were you a popular singer who was born in Ohio but didn’t speak English until your fifth year? 3. Were you part of a female trio of pop music legends? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/153 "2025-05-14T22:16:08Z")
SunUp > [@](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did you write the hit “Lonely People” for the group America? > 2. Did you write “Sometimes When We Touch”? > 3. Did you division hold two key gaps at the Battle of South Mountain? 1. I am not Neil Diamond(?) Take 2 DQs. > [@knoodler](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you distantly related to your royal husband? > 2. Were you a popular singer who was born in Ohio but didn’t speak English until your fifth year? > 3. Were you part of a female trio of pop music legends? 1. I am not Princess Diana. 2. Take a DQ. 3. I am not Diana Ross. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/154 "2025-05-14T23:01:30Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > 1. Did you write the hit “Lonely People” for the group America? > > 2. Did you write “Sometimes When We Touch”? > > 3. Did you division hold two key gaps at the Battle of South Mountain? > > 1. I am not Neil Diamond(?) > Take 2 DQs. #1 was Dan Peek, then Dan Hill, and Daniel Harvey Hill, Major General, Confederate States of America. DQs: 1. Real? 2. Female? 3. First name starts with D? ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/155 "2025-05-14T23:51:00Z")
Great job, Prof! Your memory is impressive. IQs: 1. Did you die shortly after drinking at the White Horse Tavern in 1951? 2. Were you the leader of a movement that combined left-wing anarchist politics with strict Roman Catholic theology? 3. Did you experience significant childhood trauma at the Overlook Hotel? ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/156 "2025-05-14T23:52:16Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > [@knoodler](#): > > > > IQs: > > > > 1. Were you distantly related to your royal husband? > > 2. Were you a popular singer who was born in Ohio but didn’t speak English until your fifth year? > > 3. Were you part of a female trio of pop music legends? > > 1. I am not Princess Diana. > 2. Take a DQ. > 3. I am not Diana Ross. 1. Correct 2. Dean Martin 3. Dolly Parton (part of Trio, with Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou Harris); Diana Ross was part of a trio of female singers but were the other two considered legends? 1 DQ reserved, 1 DQ pending ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/157 "2025-05-15T00:08:45Z")
IQs: 1. Did you hijack a plane for cash, and get away with it? 2. Was your biggest hit a song based on a 1977 movie of the same title? 3. Do you consider yourself a “scream queen” and “the world’s best mom” because of your early movie roles? ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/158 "2025-05-15T00:52:28Z")
Congrats, Prof.! IQs: 1. Were you eventually revealed to have been W. Mark Felt? 2. As readers of your humor column know well, are you _not_ making this up? 3. Did you play Mattie in _True Grit_? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/159 "2025-05-15T02:10:18Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did you die shortly after drinking at the White Horse Tavern in 1951? > 2. Were you the leader of a movement that combined left-wing anarchist politics with strict Roman Catholic theology? > 3. Did you experience significant childhood trauma at the Overlook Hotel? Take 3 DQs. > [@knoodler](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did you hijack a plane for cash, and get away with it? > 2. Was your biggest hit a song based on a 1977 movie of the same title? > 3. Do you consider yourself a “scream queen” and “the world’s best mom” because of your early movie roles? 1. I am not D.B. Cooper. 2. I am not David Gates (who had a hit with _Goodbye Girl_ about then). 3. Take a DQ. > [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you eventually revealed to have been W. Mark Felt? > 2. As readers of your humor column know well, are you _not_ making this up? > 3. Did you play Mattie in _True Grit_? 1. I am not Deep Throat. 2. I am not Dave Barry. 3. I am not Kim Darby. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078/160 "2025-05-15T02:12:05Z")
**knoodler** , you’re right. Mary Wilson may or may not have been a legend, but Florence Blanchard was not. Take that DQ. DQs: 1. Real 2. Male 3. Last name starts with D [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-may-2025/1018078.md?page=9)