# Botticelli - Nov. 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [November 21, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438 "2013-11-21T16:23:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/41 "2013-11-25T16:33:00Z")
IQ: Are you a former First Lady who is more commonly known by a nickname (which doesn’t start with ‘T’) than by her first name (which does)? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/42 "2013-11-25T17:02:43Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ: Are you a former First Lady who is more commonly known by a nickname (which doesn’t start with ‘T’) than by her first name (which does)? No, I’m not… Lady Bird Johnson? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/43 "2013-11-25T17:11:47Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ: Are you a former First Lady who is more commonly known by a nickname (which doesn’t start with ‘T’) than by her first name (which does)? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > No, I’m not… Lady Bird Johnson? Thelma “Pat” Nixon. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/44 "2013-11-26T13:22:10Z")
IQs: 1. Did you sing with the Captain in the 1980’s? 2. Did you complain that your mother always liked your brother best? 3. Were you the daughter of a murderous Vice President? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/45 "2013-11-26T14:34:36Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did you sing with the Captain in the 1980’s? > 2. Did you complain that your mother always liked your brother best? > 3. Were you the daughter of a murderous Vice President? Not Toni Tenille (who, among other gigs, sang backup on Pink Floyd’s _The Wall_!), dunno, and not Theodosia Burr. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/46 "2013-11-26T14:41:16Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did you sing with the Captain in the 1980’s? > 2. Did you complain that your mother always liked your brother best? > 3. Were you the daughter of a murderous Vice President? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not Toni Tenille (who, among other gigs, sang backup on Pink Floyd’s _The Wall_!), dunno, and not Theodosia Burr. Right on Toni and Theodosia. #2 was Tommy Smothers of the Smothers Brothers. Still thinking about good DQs to ask. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/47 "2013-11-26T14:48:56Z")
Tommy Smothers, of course - d’oh! :: headsmack :: ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/48 "2013-11-26T18:44:55Z")
nevermind ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/49 "2013-11-26T18:48:16Z")
DQ: Famous because she’s married to someone famous? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/50 "2013-11-26T19:20:15Z")
T. 1. real 2. female 3. American 4. dead 5. not known for the arts 6. died since 1900 7. not known for contributions to science or technology 8. died after 1950 9. first name starts with T 10. not a sports figure 11. not political 12. not a criminal 13. died after 1990 14. not famous because she’s married to someone famous 42,000 posts - woohoo! ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/51 "2013-11-26T19:26:57Z")
[Way to go, EH!] IQs: 1. Were you “the most sensational leader of the gang”? 2. Were you the equivalent of Oddjob in Austin Powers’s first movie? 3. Were you a crime solver written by Agatha Christie? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/52 "2013-11-26T23:20:24Z")
IQ1: Do we not have your father to kick around any more? IQ2: Are you a gold-medal Olympic figure skater? IQ3: Did you steal a pig and run away? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/53 "2013-11-27T01:35:34Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > …IQs: > > 1. Were you “the most sensational leader of the gang”? > 2. Were you the equivalent of Oddjob in Austin Powers’s first movie? > 3. Were you a crime solver written by Agatha Christie? Dunno the first two; not Tuppence? > [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Do we not have your father to kick around any more? > IQ2: Are you a gold-medal Olympic figure skater? > IQ3: Did you steal a pig and run away? Not Tricia Nixon; dunno the other two. T. 1. real 2. female 3. American 4. dead 5. not known for the arts 6. died since 1900 7. not known for contributions to science or technology 8. died after 1950 9. first name starts with T 10. not a sports figure 11. not political 12. not a criminal 13. died after 1990 14. not famous because she’s married to someone famous ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/54 "2013-11-27T02:55:47Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > [Way to go, EH!] > > IQs: > > 1. Were you “the most sensational leader of the gang”? > 2. Were you the equivalent of Oddjob in Austin Powers’s first movie? > 3. Were you a crime solver written by Agatha Christie? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno the first two; not Tuppence? Yeah, either Tuppence or Tommy. #1 was Top Cat (a Hanna-Barbera cartoon) #2 was Random Task. And I’m still thinking… ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/55 "2013-11-27T03:26:42Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Do we not have your father to kick around any more? > IQ2: Are you a gold-medal Olympic figure skater? > IQ3: Did you steal a pig and run away? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not Tricia Nixon; dunno the other two. Correct on Tricia Nixon. Tara Lipinski. Tom, Tom, the piper’s son / Stole a pig and away he run. (Or so said Mother Goose…) Is medicine included in science/technology? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/56 "2013-11-27T05:16:20Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > …Is medicine included in science/technology? I would say not, but if a majority feels otherwise in the next 24 hours, I will yield the point. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/57 "2013-11-27T13:01:35Z")
I’d say yes, medicine and health care are included in science/technology. Pharmacology’s biochemistry after all. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/58 "2013-11-27T18:20:24Z")
True, but my point is that a surgeon, general practitioner, ob/gyn, nurse, paramedic, orderly or patient would be involved in medicine, but not “known for contributions to science or technology,” as the DQ was phrased. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/59 "2013-11-27T18:22:33Z")
Okay, I can see that. Dr. Jonas Salk, yes, but Clara Barton, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438/60 "2013-11-27T18:26:43Z")
Good distinction. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2013/674438.md?page=4)