# Botticelli - Nov 2020

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 2, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569 "2020-11-02T18:22:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/482 "2020-12-02T13:20:45Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > - Did you paint _Noli me tangere_ ?
> > 
> > > - Was Mighty Manfred the Wonder Dog your pet?
> > > - Did you write _Sons and Lovers_ ?
> 
> Take 3 DQs

#1 was Titian.  
#2 was Tom Terrific.  
#3 was Ivan Turgenev.

DQs:

1. From a commercial or advertising?
2. Created after 1980?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/483 "2020-12-02T14:18:07Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you, a Vermonter living in Pennsylvania, played in a movie by a Texan? - Congressman Thaddeus Stevens, played by Tommy Lee Jones in _Lincoln_  
Did you harshly criticize children’s holiday plays in print? - Thaddeus Bristol, in a very funny David Sedaris seasonal short story: [Front Row Center With Thaddeus Bristol - This American Life](https://www.thisamericanlife.org/87/a-very-special-sedaris-christmas/act-one)  
Were you the only son of Will and Deanna? - A small spoiler from _Star Trek: Picard_: Will and Deanna Riker-Troi have a son named Thaddeus, named after Will’s Civil War soldier ancestor

Thaddeus x3!

DQs:

Associated with London?  
Best known for a single work of fiction?

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/484 "2020-12-02T18:05:43Z")

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DQs:

1. Not Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with ‘T’
4. Created in or after 1954
5. Not American
6. Not American creator(s)
7. Not originally from prose fiction
8. Not originally from a movie
9. Caucasian - most likely - not explicitly specified in original source material
10. Not from a TV/streaming show
11. From a European creator or creators
12. Could be alive today, if real - it’s possible
13. British
14. Not from a song
15. Not primarily known from the web
16. Not originally from a theatrical work
17. Not originally from comics or cartoons
18. Protagonist
19. Not from a commercial or advertising
20. Created before 1980
21. Not especially associated with London - Very, very, very indirectly with Soho
22. Best known for a single work of fiction - single work in the sense of one story, although it has had multiple adaptations

We’re over 20 DQs, so I’ll cut off IQs at 12 noon PST today (12/2)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/485 "2020-12-03T11:57:34Z")

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DQ: Human?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/486 "2020-12-03T18:36:09Z")

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DQs:

1. Not Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with ‘T’
4. Created in or after 1954
5. Not American
6. Not American creator(s)
7. Not originally from prose fiction
8. Not originally from a movie
9. Caucasian - most likely - not explicitly specified in original source material
10. Not from a TV/streaming show
11. From a European creator or creators
12. Could be alive today, if real - it’s possible
13. British
14. Not from a song
15. Not primarily known from the web
16. Not originally from a theatrical work
17. Not originally from comics or cartoons
18. Protagonist
19. Not from a commercial or advertising
20. Created before 1980
21. Not especially associated with London - Very, very, very indirectly with Soho
22. Best known for a single work of fiction - single work in the sense of one story, although it has had multiple adaptations
23. Human

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/487 "2020-12-04T00:20:58Z")

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If I counted correctly, there is still one outstanding DQ.  
I’ll keep it open until 3 pm PST (GMT -8) tomorrow 12/4, then move onto “Are you…” questions.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/488 "2020-12-04T00:56:25Z")

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Hmm. Still can’t figure out who this is. I yield my unasked DQ to whoever would like to ask it - first come, first served.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/489 "2020-12-04T01:44:45Z")

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I’ll take it. From science fiction/fantasy?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/490 "2020-12-04T02:20:02Z")

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DQs:

1. Not Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with ‘T’
4. Created in or after 1954
5. Not American
6. Not American creator(s)
7. Not originally from prose fiction
8. Not originally from a movie
9. Caucasian - most likely - not explicitly specified in original source material
10. Not from a TV/streaming show
11. From a European creator or creators
12. Could be alive today, if real - it’s possible
13. British
14. Not from a song
15. Not primarily known from the web
16. Not originally from a theatrical work
17. Not originally from comics or cartoons
18. Protagonist
19. Not from a commercial or advertising
20. Created before 1980
21. Not especially associated with London - Very, very, very indirectly with Soho
22. Best known for a single work of fiction - originally appeared in a single self-contained work, although that work has been adapted multiple times
23. Human
24. Not from science fiction/fantasy

Reworded my answer to #22 to be clearer.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/491 "2020-12-04T05:24:59Z")

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Well, I’m stumped. What we left with? From a poem?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/492 "2020-12-04T05:59:09Z")

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Hints:  
I feel I gave accurate truthful answers to all the DQs as asked.

That said, it is possible that if #14 had been phrased differently or broadened in scope, I may have answered differently.  
Also, had #8 and #16 not included the word “originally”, I would have had to answer differently.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/493 "2020-12-04T12:51:05Z")

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So, maybe a poem or chant or riddle or jingle or folktale that became an opera or a ballet or a musical?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/494 "2020-12-04T15:02:15Z")

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A folktale created in or after 1954? Seems unlikely.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/495 "2020-12-04T15:38:49Z")

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Urban legend, then.

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**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/496 "2020-12-04T15:45:52Z")

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Maybe it’s not from a single song, but from an album…

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**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/497 "2020-12-04T17:16:20Z")

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I have an inkling of who it might be, actually, but I’m not ready to jump in this round.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/498 "2020-12-04T17:17:28Z")

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You can have my guess. I don’t have a clue.

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**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/499 "2020-12-04T17:20:34Z")

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Do you mean DQ or IQ?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/501 "2020-12-04T17:23:57Z")

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> [@Ana\_Byrd](#):
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> Maybe it’s not from a single song, but from an album…

I’m thinking you are probably correct, if you’re thinking Who I’m thinking of.

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**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-nov-2020/924569/502 "2020-12-04T17:25:03Z")

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Well, what the heck. Are you a deaf, dumb, and blind kid who plays a mean pinball?

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