# Botticelli November 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 3, 2011, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721 "2011-11-03T07:31:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/221 "2011-11-30T20:42:08Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> I am not Virginia Dare.
> 
> I am not Viracocha (guess on that one, so a DQ may be forthcoming).
> 
> I am not (the then-future Queen) Victoria, who reigned from 1837-1901. (99% sure on that one)

Correct for the first and third; the second is Viserys Targaryen of George R.R. Martin’s novel _A Game of Thrones_.

DQ: American?

IQ: Were you played at different ages by an uncle and a nephew?  
IQ: Was there a near-riot at your funeral?  
IQ: Were you often addressed by, but never seen with, a comedian?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/222 "2011-11-30T21:17:06Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Were you once featured prominently in delivery pizza advertisements?
> 
> IQ: Does an internet meme attribute near omniscient and omnipotent powers to you?
> 
> IQ: Did you compose a classical piece with an incongruous title in D Minor which you feel is the saddest of all keys?

Late follow up for the last game:  
You were not The Noid, Chuck Norris, and once again, not Nigel Tufnil, who composed the classical work “Lick My Love Pump”.

New game:

IQ: Would various people have gotten away with it if not for you and your meddling friends?

IQ: Are you an Academy Award winner who declined an offer to replace Rick Wakeman in Yes?

IQ: Are you the famous painter of pin-up girls who painted the cover of The Cars’ _Candy-O_ album?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/223 "2011-11-30T21:58:13Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> I am not Virgil (the Roman poet).
> 
> I am not Virgil Carter (who did play for the Bengals – if he was never on the Fire, take a DQ).
> 
> No good guess for IQ3, so take a DQ for that.

Right on #1 and #2. #3 is Virgil Tibbs (they call him “Mr. Tibbs”).

DQ: Living (or if fictional, likely to be living based on the date of his first fictional appearance)?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/224 "2011-12-01T20:38:10Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ1: Real person?
> 
> DQ2: Male?

Yes to both.

> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you the first Minnesota Twin to win an MVP award?  
> IQ2: Are you a long-time Congressman with an aircraft carrier named after him?  
> IQ3: Did you draw the cover of the Beatles’ \*\*\*Revolver \*\*\*album?

I am not Zoilo Versalles (not 100% sure he’s the right answer, but fairly confident).

I am not Fred Vinson.

I know I’ve read the name of the _Revolver_ cover illustrator, but I don’t have a good guess, so take a DQ.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Correct for the first and third; the second is Viserys Targaryen of George R.R. Martin’s novel _A Game of Thrones_.
> 
> DQ: American?

No.

> [@](#):
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> IQ: Were you played at different ages by an uncle and a nephew?  
> IQ: Was there a near-riot at your funeral?  
> IQ: Were you often addressed by, but never seen with, a comedian?

I am not Vern, the target of questions and comments uttered by Ernest (Jim Varney).

Guess for the second: I am not Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, bka Lenin.

Take a DQ for the first in any case.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Would various people have gotten away with it if not for you and your meddling friends?
> 
> IQ: Are you an Academy Award winner who declined an offer to replace Rick Wakeman in Yes?
> 
> IQ: Are you the famous painter of pin-up girls who painted the cover of The Cars’ _Candy-O_ album?

I am not Velma, one of the Mystery Machine gang.

I am not Alberto (?) Varga (or Vargas – he signed his name both ways at different times).

Wild guess on #2 – I am not Jon Voight. Probable DQ there.

> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> Right on #1 and #2. #3 is Virgil Tibbs (they call him “Mr. Tibbs”).
> 
> DQ: Living (or if fictional, likely to be living based on the date of his first fictional appearance)?

Living.

Summary:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not American.
4. I am alive as of this posting.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/225 "2011-12-01T22:12:58Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Are you an Academy Award winner who declined an offer to replace Rick Wakeman in Yes?

> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> Wild guess on #2 – I am not Jon Voight. Probable DQ there.

You are not Vangelis, Oscar-winner for the _Chariots of Fire_ score, who rehearsed with Yes for a short time but decided against becoming a full time member of the band. Several years later he and Yes vocalist Jon Anderson released a side project under the name Jon & Vangelis.

DQ: European?

IQ: Was Alice Cooper’s 1986 attempted-comeback single _He’s Back_ written about you?  
IQ: Despite playing the title character of a 1960s television show, were you overshadowed by your martial artist sidekick?  
IQ: Did you and a guitarist have a child together that became a bassist for said guitarist’s band?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/226 "2011-12-01T23:05:56Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> DQ: European?

Yes.

> [@](#):
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> IQ: Was Alice Cooper’s 1986 attempted-comeback single _He’s Back_ written about you?  
> IQ: Despite playing the title character of a 1960s television show, were you overshadowed by your martial artist sidekick?  
> IQ: Did you and a guitarist have a child together that became a bassist for said guitarist’s band?

IQ1: Guess based on Alice’s material – I am not Vlad the Impaler.  
IQ2: I am not Van Williams, who played the Green Hornet to Bruce Lee’s Kato.  
IQ3: Guess – I am not Steve Vai.

Summary:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not American.
4. I am alive as of this posting.
5. I am European.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/227 "2011-12-02T02:59:39Z")

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Zoilo Versalles is absolutely right.

The Congressman was CARL Vinson, but I’m impressed that you got the name, so I’ll give you credit.

I will take a DQ for Klaus Voorman (former bassist for Manfred Mann, and a pal of the Beatles from their Hamburg days).

DQ: Does your last name start with “V”?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/228 "2011-12-02T03:03:49Z")

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IQ: Did you coin the phrase “conspicuous consumption”?  
IQ2: Were you the hippie dippie Jesus in the movie version of “Godspell”?

IQ3: Did you play a doomed Italian-American soldier in a movie that was up for Best Picture?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/229 "2011-12-02T03:05:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Were you played at different ages by an uncle and a nephew?  
> IQ: Was there a near-riot at your funeral?  
> IQ: Were you often addressed by, but never seen with, a comedian?

Lord Voldemort, played by both Ralph Fiennes and his nephew.  
Rudolph Valentino’s funeral got a little out of control.  
Correct as to Vern, Ernest’s unseen friend.

DQ: British?  
DQ: Entertainer (music, books, movies, TV, plays, etc.)?

IQ: Were you Harry Truman’s poker buddy, later named to the Supreme Court?  
IQ: Were you an U.S. Air Force general after whom a base was named?  
IQ: Were you a Republican internationalist U.S. senator just after WWII?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/230 "2011-12-02T03:20:03Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ: Does your last name start with “V”?

No.

> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ: Did you coin the phrase “conspicuous consumption”?  
> IQ2: Were you the hippie dippie Jesus in the movie version of “Godspell”?
> 
> IQ3: Did you play a doomed Italian-American soldier in a movie that was up for Best Picture?

I am not Thorstein Veblen.

No guess for #2, so take a DQ.

Guess on #3 – I am not Vito Scotti.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQ: British?  
> DQ: Entertainer (music, books, movies, TV, plays, etc.)?

I am British.

I am not an entertainer _per se_, but I am known for appearing on television.

> [@](#):
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> IQ: Were you Harry Truman’s poker buddy, later named to the Supreme Court?  
> IQ: Were you an U.S. Air Force general after whom a base was named?  
> IQ: Were you a Republican internationalist U.S. senator just after WWII?

I know you’ve mentioned #1 in other threads. Is this Fred (as opposed to Carl) Vinson? If not, take a DQ.

I am not General Vandenberg.

Not sure if Vannevar Bush was a senator, but I am not him, so take a DQ unless he fits the criteria of the question.

Summary:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not American.
4. I am alive as of this posting.
5. I am European.
6. My last name does not start with “V”.
7. I am British.
8. I am not an entertainer _per se_, but I am known for appearing on television.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/231 "2011-12-02T05:17:41Z")

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The hippie Jesus in “Godspell” Was Victor Garber, now usually a much more serious-looking actor.

Vin Diesel was the doomed Italian-American soldier in “Saving Private Ryan.”  
DQ1: Are you under 40 years old?

DQ2: Are you an emcee or host of a television show?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/232 "2011-12-02T06:53:46Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Was Alice Cooper’s 1986 attempted-comeback single _He’s Back_ written about you?  
> IQ: Despite playing the title character of a 1960s television show, were you overshadowed by your martial artist sidekick?  
> IQ: Did you and a guitarist have a child together that became a bassist for said guitarist’s band?

> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> IQ1: Guess based on Alice’s material – I am not Vlad the Impaler.  
> IQ2: I am not Van Williams, who played the Green Hornet to Bruce Lee’s Kato.  
> IQ3: Guess – I am not Steve Vai.

IQ1: You are not Jason Voorhees. Alice Cooper was tapped to write a song for _Friday the 13th Part 6?: The New Beginning_, in which Jason’s corpse was resurrected with lightning.  
IQ3: You are not Valerie Bertinelli, ex-wife of guitarist Eddie Van Halen and mother of Wolfgang Van Halen, who replaced Michael Anthony in Van Halen.

I’ll wait to see some of the previous DQs answers before I ask mine.

IQ: Have you been portrayed by Peter Cushing, Laurence Olivier, and Anthony Hopkins?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/233 "2011-12-02T15:27:37Z")

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IQ: Did you resign from your job over a failed hostage rescue attempt?  
IQ: Were you the lead singer of a very popular group that scored a top ten hit using the alias “Wonder Who”?  
IQ: Did Richard Nixon ask if you’d be interested in being his running mate in 1968, before you told him you were a Democrat?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/234 "2011-12-02T19:59:26Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ1: Are you under 40 years old?
> 
> DQ2: Are you an emcee or host of a television show?

I am not under 40 years old.

I am not a television host or emcee.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Have you been portrayed by Peter Cushing, Laurence Olivier, and Anthony Hopkins?

I can’t think of a “V” that all three have played. Take a DQ.

> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ: Did you resign from your job over a failed hostage rescue attempt?  
> IQ: Were you the lead singer of a very popular group that scored a top ten hit using the alias “Wonder Who”?  
> IQ: Did Richard Nixon ask if you’d be interested in being his running mate in 1968, before you told him you were a Democrat?

I am not Cyrus Vance.

Guess – I am not Frankie Valli.

Another guess based on a dim memory – I am not Gore Vidal.

Summary:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not American.
4. I am alive as of this posting.
5. I am European.
6. My last name does not start with “V”.
7. I am British.
8. I am not an entertainer per se, but I am known for appearing on television.
9. I am not under 40 years old.
10. I am not a television host or emcee.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/235 "2011-12-02T20:16:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Were you Harry Truman’s poker buddy, later named to the Supreme Court?  
> IQ: Were you an U.S. Air Force general after whom a base was named?  
> IQ: Were you a Republican internationalist U.S. senator just after WWII?

Yes, Fred Vinson.  
Yes, Gen. Hoyt Vandenberg.  
The third is his uncle, Arthur Vandenberg of Michigan.

DQ: Political figure?

IQ: Did your father have curly gray hair, wear glasses and not care very much for your boyfriend?  
IQ: At a major occasion in which you were the center of attention, were a few bars from Holst’s _The Planets_ played?  
IQ: Were you held prisoner in a place which your creator hated from long before?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/236 "2011-12-02T20:43:55Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Have you been portrayed by Peter Cushing, Laurence Olivier, and Anthony Hopkins?

> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> I can’t think of a “V” that all three have played. Take a DQ.

You are not Dracula’s nemesis Professor Abraham Van Helsing.

DQ: Are you a “talking head” on television, (such as a political pundit or science-explaining-type guy)

On preview, my next DQ has been asked. I’ll hold onto my other 2.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/237 "2011-12-02T20:50:15Z")

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Cyrus Vance did indeed resign over the botched hostage rescue attempt in Iran.

And Frankie Valli DID inspire the Tony-winning musical “Jersey Boys.”

The one you missed was… Richard Nixon was a huge football fan, and wanted Green Bay Packers coach Vince Lombardi as his running mate (but Lombardi, like most blue-collar New York Catholics, was a Democrat).

DQ: Are you over 70 years old?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/238 "2011-12-02T21:05:22Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQ: Political figure?

I have some political activity in my past, but it is not what I am most famous for, and did not involve seeking office.

> [@](#):
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> IQ: Did your father have curly gray hair, wear glasses and not care very much for your boyfriend?  
> IQ: At a major occasion in which you were the center of attention, were a few bars from Holst’s _The Planets_ played?  
> IQ: Were you held prisoner in a place which your creator hated from long before?

No guess on #1 --take a DQ.

Educated guess on #2 – I am not Valentina Tereshkova.

Wilder guess on #3 – I am not Voltron.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
>
> DQ: Are you a “talking head” on television, (such as a political pundit or science-explaining-type guy).

I’m afraid I misled you earlier. Although I am not primarily known as a TV host, I did briefly host a series. Not likely you ever saw an episode, but I’ll change the answer to Summary Point #10 and not charge a DQ. I would not be classed as a “political pundit or science-explaining-type guy”, to use your words.

> [@astorian](#):
>
> DQ: Are you over 70 years old?

Yes.

Summary:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not American.
4. I am alive as of this posting.
5. I am European.
6. My last name does not start with “V”.
7. I am British.
8. I am not an entertainer per se, but I am known for appearing on television.
9. I am not under 40 years old.  
9A. I am not primarily known as a television host or emcee, but did briefly headline a TV series.
10. I am over 70 years old.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/239 "2011-12-02T21:31:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Did your father have curly gray hair, wear glasses and not care very much for your boyfriend?  
> IQ: At a major occasion in which you were the center of attention, were a few bars from Holst’s _The Planets_ played?  
> IQ: Were you held prisoner in a place which your creator hated from long before?

Veronica Lodge, sweetheart of Archie.  
Valentine Michael Smith, from Heinlein’s _Stranger in a Strange Land_, when he appeared as the de facto ambassador from Mars.  
V., the antihero of Alan Moore’s _V for Vendetta_, was imprisoned in a camp at Larkhill, England. Moore had an unpleasant hitchhiking experience there years before.

DQ: Comedian?

I’ll reserve my other two DQs.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/240 "2011-12-02T21:50:53Z")

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IQ: Did you relieve your paranoid capatin of command during a typhonn?  
IQ: Did Francis Bacon create a memorablly horrifying painting spoofing your most famous portrait?

IQ: Do you say “Jinkies” whenever you’re excited?

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