# Botticelli November 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 3, 2011, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721 "2011-11-03T07:31:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/21 "2011-11-04T08:43:12Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Are you a Nobel Peace Prize winner, world leader and World War 1 aviator whom everyone called “Mike”?  
> Are you a sports superstar who died of a heart attack while playing a pickup shirts-and-skins basketball games with Christian conservative leader James Dobson?  
> Prior to the 20th century, were you generally considered the ONLY great English composer of classical music?

3 more DQs for you.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/22 "2011-11-04T11:13:58Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> 3 more DQs for you.

Lester Pearson, former Canadian Prime Minister, was “Mike” to everyone who knew him. Allegedly, his first flight instructor thought “Lester” was a sissy name, and re-christened him “Mike.”

“Pistol Pete” Maravich, the highest scorer in NCAA basketball history (and the last white player to lead the NBA in scoring!), died while playing a pickup basketball game with James Dobson.  
Henry Purcell was the only great English composer… until the 20th century, when a BUNCH of them came along.

DQ: Are you best known as a singer or musician?  
DQ: Are you under 40 years old?  
DQ: Are you (or have you ever been) widely regarded as a sex symbol?

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/23 "2011-11-04T12:52:09Z")

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IQ: Have you been nominated for an Academy award for Best Original Score?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/24 "2011-11-04T16:30:15Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ: Are you best known as a singer or musician?  
> DQ: Are you under 40 years old?  
> DQ: Are you (or have you ever been) widely regarded as a sex symbol?

DQ1: Have sang and played an instrument, but that is not what I am best known for.

DQ2: No  
DQ3: No

> [@Rebo](#):
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> IQ: Have you been nominated for an Academy award for Best Original Score?

There’s a lot to choose from. Let’s go with I am not Paul Williams, nominated for _Phantom of the Paradise_ and _The Muppet Movie_

Recap:  
‘P’

1. Male
2. Real person
3. Last name does not start with ‘P’
4. Born after 1900
5. Not dead
6. Have acted, but not famous for being an actor
7. Not a politician
8. Work in some field of show business
9. American
10. Have sang and played an instrument, but not best known for singing or playing
11. Not under 40 years old
12. Never regarded as a sex symbol

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/25 "2011-11-04T16:47:22Z")

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Were you overshadowed by your co-star, who sang “Da Doo Ron Ron”?  
Was the song “I WIll Always Love You” written as a tribute and a fond goodbye to you?  
Did you get millions of Americans snarling “Kiss Mah Grits”?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/26 "2011-11-04T17:10:09Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Were you overshadowed by your co-star, who sang “Da Doo Ron Ron”?  
> Was the song “I WIll Always Love You” written as a tribute and a fond goodbye to you?  
> Did you get millions of Americans snarling “Kiss Mah Grits”?

No, I am not Parker Stevenson, who co-starred with Shaun Cassidy in _The Hardy Boys_. Thanks for the junior high flashback.

Dolly **P** arton wrote the song, but I don’t who it was about. Take a DQ.

No, I am not Polly Holiday, who played Flo on the 1970s sitcom _Alice_

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/27 "2011-11-04T17:50:17Z")

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**astorian** - the P in question is male.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/28 "2011-11-04T17:58:40Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> IQ: Have you been nominated for an Academy award for Best Original Score?

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> There’s a lot to choose from. Let’s go with I am not Paul Williams, nominated for _Phantom of the Paradise_ and _The Muppet Movie_

I was thinking of Philip Glass.

I’m _terrible_ at wording these questions. I’m determined to get better at this! 😉

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/29 "2011-11-04T18:10:08Z")

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IQ: Did you have a brief appearance as a drunken peasant named Albert Dreary eating a carrot in _The Fellowship of the Ring_?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/30 "2011-11-04T18:19:25Z")

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Good work on Parker Stevenso nand Polly Holliday.

“I WIll Always Love You” was Dolly Parton’s farewell to her longtime singing partner Porter Waggoner.  
DQ: Are you a producer or director in the TV or movie business?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/31 "2011-11-04T19:19:21Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> IQ: Did you claim to be Jezebel in hell?
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> IQ: Was an apologetic catchphrase directed to a character you played?

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> #1 - I don’t know. Take a DQ  
> #2 - (Guess) - I am not Bernadette Peters who starred with Steve Martin in _The Jerk_, who may have uttered his “Excuuuuuuuuuuuse me” catchphrase in the film?

1. “Johnny, angry Johnny, this is Jezebel in hell” is a line from the song _Angry Johnny_ by Poe, the stage name of Anne Decatur Danielewski.

2. I don’t remember Martin saying that line in _The Jerk_. I was thinking of Ed Platt, to whom Don Adams (as Maxwell Smart) directed the line “Sorry about that, Chief!”

DQ: Are you a comedian?

DQ: Are you black?

IQ: Is your daughter named after a soft drink and a generic term for a protagonist?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/32 "2011-11-04T21:13:02Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> IQ: Did you have a brief appearance as a drunken peasant named Albert Dreary eating a carrot in _The Fellowship of the Ring_?

(Guess) - Did Peter Jackson give himself a cameo a la Hitchcock? If so, then no, I am not Peter Jackson. If not, go ahead and ask a DQ.

> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ: Are you a producer or director in the TV or movie business?

No

> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> DQ: Are you a comedian?
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> DQ: Are you black?
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> IQ: Is your daughter named after a soft drink and a generic term for a protagonist?

No  
No  
Take another DQ

Recap:  
‘P’

1. Male
2. Real person
3. Last name does not start with ‘P’
4. Born after 1900
5. Not dead
6. Have acted, but not famous for being an actor
7. Not a politician
8. Work in some field of show business
9. American
10. Have sang and played an instrument, but not best known for singing or playing
11. Not under 40 years old
12. Never regarded as a sex symbol
13. Not a producer or director in the TV or movie business
14. Not a comedian
15. Not black

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/33 "2011-11-05T12:53:26Z")

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Are the policemen of London widely known by a nickname given in honor of you?  
Are you an American icon (but NOT in sports) who was a runner-up to Jim Thorpe at the 1912 Olympic pentathlon?  
Were you playing guitar while another guy in your band smashed his, in the club scene in Antonioni’s film\*\*\* Blow Up?\*\*\*

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/34 "2011-11-05T17:46:54Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Are the policemen of London widely known by a nickname given in honor of you?  
> Are you an American icon (but NOT in sports) who was a runner-up to Jim Thorpe at the 1912 Olympic pentathlon?  
> Were you playing guitar while another guy in your band smashed his, in the club scene in Antonioni’s film\*\*\* Blow Up?\*\*\*

#1 (Guess) “Bobby” is named after PM Robert Peel?  
#2 No idea - take a DQ  
#3 (Guess) Not Jimmy Page? That’s about the right time frame although I don’t remember the Yardbirds being famous for smashing stuff - that was more The Who’s territory.

Take 1-3 DQs, depending on how my guesses went.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/35 "2011-11-05T18:50:23Z")

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Does your biopic begin with an iconic image of you in front of a US flag?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/36 "2011-11-05T20:07:43Z")

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Sir Robert Peel is 100% correct (London police have often been called “Bobbies” or “Peelers”) , as is Jimmy Page (the Yardbirds were playing “Stroll on,” a revised version of “Train Kept a Rolling” in that scene).

General George Patton was a runner up at the Olympic Pentathlon in 1912.  
DQ: Are you best known as a performer of some kind?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/37 "2011-11-05T21:08:07Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Does your biopic begin with an iconic image of you in front of a US flag?

No, I am not General Patton

> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ: Are you best known as a performer of some kind?

No

Recap:  
‘P’

1. Male
2. Real person
3. Last name does not start with ‘P’
4. Born after 1900
5. Not dead
6. Have acted, but not famous for being an actor
7. Not a politician
8. Work in some field of show business
9. American
10. Have sang and played an instrument, but not best known for singing or playing
11. Not under 40 years old
12. Never regarded as a sex symbol
13. Not a producer or director in the TV or movie business
14. Not a comedian
15. Not black
16. Not best known as a performer of some kind.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/38 "2011-11-06T02:49:10Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> IQ: Is your daughter named after a soft drink and a generic term for a protagonist?

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> Take another DQ

Penn Jillette (of Penn and Teller) named his daughter Moxie Crimefighter.

DQ: Are you a composer?

IQ: Were you the title character in a story by Edward Everett Hale?

IQ: Was your father a sportswriter who covered the Cleveland Browns for many years?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/39 "2011-11-06T05:34:49Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> Penn Jillette (of Penn and Teller) named his daughter Moxie Crimefighter.
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> DQ: Are you a composer?
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> IQ: Were you the title character in a story by Edward Everett Hale?
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> IQ: Was your father a sportswriter who covered the Cleveland Browns for many years?

DQ: I’ll say yes. At the risk of giving it away, I’d say composing (in a broad sense) is my #2 claim to fame.

No idea for either IQ. 2 DQs for you.

Recap:  
‘P’

1. Male
2. Real person
3. Last name does not start with ‘P’
4. Born after 1900
5. Not dead
6. Have acted, but not famous for being an actor
7. Not a politician
8. Work in some field of show business
9. American
10. Have sang and played an instrument, but not best known for singing or playing
11. Not under 40 years old
12. Never regarded as a sex symbol
13. Not a producer or director in the TV or movie business
14. Not a comedian
15. Not black
16. Not best known as a performer of some kind.
17. Composing is one of my more recognized talents.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/40 "2011-11-07T02:42:25Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> Penn Jillette (of Penn and Teller) named his daughter Moxie Crimefighter.
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> DQ: Are you a composer?
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> IQ: Were you the title character in a story by Edward Everett Hale?
> 
> IQ: Was your father a sportswriter who covered the Cleveland Browns for many years?

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> DQ: I’ll say yes. At the risk of giving it away, I’d say composing (in a broad sense) is my #2 claim to fame.
> 
> No idea for either IQ. 2 DQs for you.

Philip Nolan was the title character of _The Man Without a Country_.

Actress Patricia Heaton’s father, Chuck, was the sportswriter.

DQ: Are you known for writing words (poetry, novels, lyrics, etc.)?

DQ: Are you known for committing an indiscretion (crime, sex scandal, etc.)?

IQ: Have you coached baseball at Limestone College?

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