# Botticelli November 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 3, 2011, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721 "2011-11-03T07:31:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/101 "2011-11-14T21:14:34Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Not Solomon Guggenheim
> 
> Don’t know the other 2, so take 2 DQs.

Not who I was thinking of, so I’ll rephrase:

IQ: Was a big modern art museum (in Europe but not in Spain) named after you?

Answers:

Galinda/Glinda the Good Witch had her name mispronounced in the musical _Wicked_.

During a press conference, SecState and former General of the Army George C. Marshall was once asked how he “felt” about a proposed bill. He said, drawing a clear line between domestic life and official policy, “I save my feelings for Mrs. Marshall.”

DQ: Military figure?

DQ: Was his death noteworthy?

Then:

IQ: Did the same actor play both you, an Arab aristocrat and a very scary killer?

IQ: Are you the muse and wife of a famous movie director?

IQ: Did you sing the chorus for Bob and Doug?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/102 "2011-11-14T22:18:24Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQ: Military figure?
> 
> DQ: Was his death noteworthy?
> 
> ?

Hmm… not directly a military figure, and yet I’m very important in military history

And my death was not noteworthy or important

1. Male
2. Dead
3. Real Person
4. Not involved in sports
5. Not an entertainer of any kind.
6. Not a politician, but a very important political figure anyway.
7. Not American
8. First name starts with G
9. Not an aristocrat, nobleman, monarch or member of any royal family
10. European
11. Died after 1900 but before 1950
12. Not British
13. I was never formally a member of an Army or Navy, but I’m a very important figure in military history
14. My death was little noticed and unimportant

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/103 "2011-11-14T22:22:39Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Did the same actor play both you, an Arab aristocrat and a very scary killer?
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> IQ: Are you the muse and wife of a famous movie director?
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> IQ: Did you sing the chorus for Bob and Doug?

Not Geddy Lee, who sang “Take Off” for Bob & Doug.

But I don’t know the other 2, so ask 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/104 "2011-11-15T00:42:42Z")

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IQ: Have you released records using the pseudonyms “Nelson” and “Spike”?

IQ: Before launching your own recording career, did you fill in for Brian Wilson on a Beach Boys tour and do session work on\* Pet Sounds\*?

IQ: Are you a director who once claimed that you are really a film editor, and the only reason you took up directing was to have interesting material to edit?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/105 "2011-11-15T00:54:06Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Have you released records using the pseudonyms “Nelson” and “Spike”?
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> IQ: Before launching your own recording career, did you fill in for Brian Wilson on a Beach Boys tour and do session work on\* Pet Sounds\*?
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> IQ: Are you a director who once claimed that you are really a film editor, and the only reason you took up directing was to have interesting material to edit?

Not George “Nelson Wilbury” Harrison or Glen Campbell.

But I don’t know the director who thinks he’s an editor- ask a DQ.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/106 "2011-11-15T01:09:42Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Are you a director who once claimed that you are really a film editor, and the only reason you took up directing was to have interesting material to edit?

> [@astorian](#):
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> But I don’t know the director who thinks he’s an editor- ask a DQ.

George Lucas made that claim around the time he was saying he wanted to go back to doing small scale “personal” films. I think it was in response to a politely phrased version of “you come up with such amazing visuals, but you really suck with flesh-and-blood actors”.

DQ: Was your influence on politics and military history felt before 1920?

Ah, what the hell…

IQ: Did you shoot Franz Ferdinand (the archduke, not the band)?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/107 "2011-11-15T01:24:50Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Did you shoot Franz Ferdinand (the archduke, not the band)?

I was just wondering that myself.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/108 "2011-11-15T01:41:22Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Did the same actor play both you, an Arab aristocrat and a very scary killer?
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> IQ: Are you the muse and wife of a famous movie director?
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> IQ: Did you sing the chorus for Bob and Doug?

Mahatma Gandhi was played Ben Kingsley, who also played an Arab poobah in _Prince of Persia_ and a killer in _Sexy Beast_.

Gena Rowlands has appeared in several John Cassavetes films.

Correct as to Geddy Lee.

I’ll reserve my two DQs for now, and wait to see your answer to **ChockFull**.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/109 "2011-11-15T05:06:01Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> George Lucas made that claim around the time he was saying he wanted to go back to doing small scale “personal” films. I think it was in response to a politely phrased version of “you come up with such amazing visuals, but you really suck with flesh-and-blood actors”.
> 
> DQ: Was your influence on politics and military history felt before 1920?
> 
> Ah, what the hell…
> 
> IQ: Did you shoot Franz Ferdinand (the archduke, not the band)?

YES! Well done! I am GAVRILO PRINCIP, Serbian nationalist who triggered World War One by assassinating the Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Bosnia.

Though I was never a politician or a soldier, I had a greater impact on political and military history than all but a few men in the 20th century.

Nonetheless, I was too young to get the death penalty, and spent the rest of my short life wasting away in prison.  
Back to you, Chock.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/110 "2011-11-15T09:53:48Z")

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Next up will be ‘ **S** ’.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/111 "2011-11-15T14:07:02Z")

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IQ: Did you co-star in a 70’s movie with Piper Laurie, whose character was certifiably crazy?  
IQ: Were you awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award in the United States, in 2009?  
!Q: Did a movie character you played respond to a declaration of all-out war by her mother, by sending a newly-printed wedding invitation to her with the time and place cut out?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/112 "2011-11-15T16:49:52Z")

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Way to go, **ChockFull**!

So… S.

IQ: Did Sherlock Holmes go to a concert in which you performed?

IQ: Did a friend of yours suck on your toes in a notorious photo?

IQ: Did you make it a point not to attack while a foe was enjoying his wedding night?

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/113 "2011-11-15T18:02:58Z")

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Oh, I forgot! ::flings confetti:: for **Chocky**.

🙂

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/114 "2011-11-15T18:26:14Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> IQ: Did you co-star in a 70’s movie with Piper Laurie, whose character was certifiably crazy?  
> IQ: Were you awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award in the United States, in 2009?  
> !Q: Did a movie character you played respond to a declaration of all-out war by her mother, by sending a newly-printed wedding invitation to her with the time and place cut out?

IQ 1: No, I am not Sissy Spacek, who starred as _Carrie_ with Piper Laurie as the batshit crazy mom.  
IQ2: I am not Stephen Hawkings? (I know he got one during Obama’s term, but I don’t know if it was 2009) If not, take a DQ.  
IQ3: Don’t know, take a DQ.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Way to go, **ChockFull**!
> 
> IQ: Did Sherlock Holmes go to a concert in which you performed?
> 
> IQ: Did a friend of yours suck on your toes in a notorious photo?
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> IQ: Did you make it a point not to attack while a foe was enjoying his wedding night?

IQ2: No, I am not Sarah “Fergie” Ferguson of the Royal Family.  
Take 2 DQs for the other 2.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/115 "2011-11-15T18:35:04Z")

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Sandra Bullock starred in _Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood_, in which Ellyn Burstyn’s character Vivi takes down all the pictures of Sidda (her daughter) in her house, cuts her face out of family pictures, and mails the defaced pictures to Sidda, along with a copy of her will with Sidda’s name marked out.

DQ: Male?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/116 "2011-11-15T18:49:40Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> DQ: Male?

Yes

Recap:  
S

1. Male

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/117 "2011-11-15T19:20:22Z")

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1. Are you a tough-guy actor who created Danny Thomas’ “Make Room For Daddy” and its spinoff, “The Andy Griffith Show”?
2. Is your gorgeous ex-wife now married to the fat kid from “Stand By Me”?
3. Are you a televangelist who wrote a book that Tim Rice based the libretto of “Jesus Christ Superstar” on?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/118 "2011-11-15T19:49:51Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> 1. Are you a tough-guy actor who created Danny Thomas’ “Make Room For Daddy” and its spinoff, “The Andy Griffith Show”?
> 2. Is your gorgeous ex-wife now married to the fat kid from “Stand By Me”?
> 3. Are you a televangelist who wrote a book that Tim Rice based the libretto of “Jesus Christ Superstar” on?

Don’t know about the first 2.  
I’ll take a guess with Jimmy Swaggart? for DQ3. Can’t think of any other ‘S’ televangelists.  
Take 2 or 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/119 "2011-11-15T21:11:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Did Sherlock Holmes go to a concert in which you performed?
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> IQ: Did a friend of yours suck on your toes in a notorious photo?
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> IQ: Did you make it a point not to attack while a foe was enjoying his wedding night?

The first guy is Sarasate, a well-known violin virtuoso of the time.

Correct as to Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York.

The great warrior Saladin held back when he knew that a Crusader foe has just gotten hitched.

DQ: Real?

DQ: American?

More IQs:

IQ: Were you a surrogate son to, and architect of, a very bad man?

IQ: Did you cause quite a stir when you destroyed an image on TV?

IQ: Did you play a frustrated officer, a restaurant owner and a clergyman?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/120 "2011-11-15T22:03:12Z")

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1. Sheldon Leonard was the producer and creator of “Make Room For Daddy” and “The Andy Griffith Show.”

2. Actor John Stamos was married to gorgeous model/actress Rebecca Romijn, who’s now married to Jerry O’Connell, the fat kid from “Stand By Me.”

3. Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen wrote the non-fiction novel “Life of Christ” that Tim Rice based his “Superstar” lyrics on.  
DQ: Last name start with “S”?

(I’ll ask the other 2 after I see some of the other answers).

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