# Botticelli November 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [November 3, 2011, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721 "2011-11-03T07:31:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/161 "2011-11-25T00:39:05Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > DQ: European? > > DQ: Are you known for musical performances? > > IQ1: Are you a baseball player who changed his first name from Joey? > > IQ2: Were you Sally Kimball’s friend? > > IQ: Were you the enemy of the person who’s the answer to IQ2? DQs: Yes Yes Take a DQ for IQ1. IQ2 & 3: I am not Encyclopedia Brown, not am I his nemesis Bugs Meany. (In real life, I am the father of a 6th and 4th grader who recommended these books to his kids - so the names are fresh in my mind) Recap: B 1. Male 2. Living 3. Entertainer of some sort 4. Not American 5. European 6. Known for musical performances ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/162 "2011-11-25T02:01:03Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …I’ll reserve my two DQs for now. > > IQ: Did you create one of the most popular choreographies of _The Nutcracker_? > IQ: Did you defend the Montgolfier Bros. from early mockery? > IQ: Did you control Leland Palmer against his will? George Ballanchine. Ben Franklin, when a French aristocrat scoffed, “What use are these balloons, anyway?”, is said to have replied, “What use is a newborn baby?” Yes, the last is BOB, the supernatural villain from _Twin Peaks_. DQ: British? DQ: Last name start with “B”? DQ: Best known as a solo artist? DQ: Under age 50? IQ: Did you insist on tagging along with people who didn’t want you there, and later become a notably bad legislator? IQ: Did you and a political rival work out who would take the top two political jobs in your country? IQ: Have you played William Hurt’s wife and John Belushi’s girlfriend? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/163 "2011-11-25T05:43:14Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQ: British? > DQ: Last name start with “B”? > DQ: Best known as a solo artist? > DQ: Under age 50? > > IQ: Did you insist on tagging along with people who didn’t want you there, and later become a notably bad legislator? > IQ: Did you and a political rival work out who would take the top two political jobs in your country? > IQ: Have you played William Hurt’s wife and John Belushi’s girlfriend? DQs: Yes Yes No No IQ1: Not Jar Jar Binks Take a DQ for #2 IQ3: Not Blair Brown from _Altered States_ and the little-remembered _Continental Divide_ Recap: B 1. Male 2. Living 3. Entertainer of some sort 4. Not American 5. European 6. Known for musical performances 7. British 8. Last name starts with B 9. Not best known as a solo artist 10. Over 50 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/164 "2011-11-25T20:29:43Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > …IQ1: Not Jar Jar Binks > Take a DQ for #2 > IQ3: Not Blair Brown from _Altered States_ and the little-remembered _Continental Divide_… Correct as to both your guesses. Kudos for knowing Blair Brown’s two movies! The second was Tony Blair, who negotiated with Gordon Brown that Blair would become British PM and Brown would become Chancellor of the Exchequer. DQ: Frontman of your particular musical group? IQ: Did you do the dishes while hiding a fugitive? IQ: Did the director of the movie featuring your character use special cameras for candlelit scenes? IQ: Although born in England, did you spend part of your childhood in Cleveland, Ohio? ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/165 "2011-11-25T20:34:28Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > IQ1: Are you a baseball player who changed his first name from Joey? > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > Take a DQ for IQ1. Joey Belle restyled himself as Albert Belle (his given first and middle names were Albert Jojuan, but he had been known as “Joey” since childhood) in an attempt to divorce himself from the era of his life characterized by issues with alcohol and anger management. DQ: Are you a drummer known by a nickname inspired by the color of his hair? IQ (in case my hunch is wrong): Although your real first and middle names are Lawrence Peter, are you better known by a nickname? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/166 "2011-11-25T22:48:52Z")
IQ1. Did you play on hit singles written by Neil Diamond and Joe South? IQ2: Did you record your own version of the elevator music classic “Love Is Blue”? IQ3: Did you write lyrics for a band named for a Boris Karloff anthology film? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/167 "2011-11-25T23:22:01Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQ: Frontman of your particular musical group? > > IQ: Did you do the dishes while hiding a fugitive? > IQ: Did the director of the movie featuring your character use special cameras for candlelit scenes? > IQ: Although born in England, did you spend part of your childhood in Cleveland, Ohio? DQ: No and Yes. That is, I was not the frontman of the most popular and well known group I was in. However, I was the frontman of later, significantly less popular groups. IQ2: I am not Barry Lyndon, title character of the Kubrick period piece. Take 2 DQs for the others. > [@Sternvogel](#): > > DQ: Are you a drummer known by a nickname inspired by the color of his hair? > > IQ (in case my hunch is wrong): Although your real first and middle names are Lawrence Peter, are you better known by a nickname? DQ: No. At least I don’t think so. I am a drummer, but I’m not aware of any hair-inspired nickname. Better tell me who you have in mind just in case. IQ: Take a DQ. > [@astorian](#): > > IQ1. Did you play on hit singles written by Neil Diamond and Joe South? > IQ2: Did you record your own version of the elevator music classic “Love Is Blue”? > IQ3: Did you write lyrics for a band named for a Boris Karloff anthology film? IQ3: Not Geezer Butler of Black Sabbath. Take DQs for the other 2. Recap: B 1. Male 2. Living 3. Entertainer of some sort 4. Not American 5. European 6. Known for musical performances 7. British 8. Last name starts with B 9. Not best known as a solo artist 10. Over 50 11. Not the frontman of the most popular and best known group I was in, but I was the frontman of later, less popular groups. 12. Not a drummer with a hair-color related nickname. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/168 "2011-11-26T01:47:31Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQ: Did you do the dishes while hiding a fugitive? > IQ: Did the director of the movie featuring your character use special cameras for candlelit scenes? > IQ: Although born in England, did you spend part of your childhood in Cleveland, Ohio? Bob Hoskins, in _Who Framed Roger Rabbit?_ Yes, Stanley Kubrick in filming _Barry Lyndon_. The third would be Bob Hope. DQ: Best known for hits in the Sixties? DQ: Better known as a singer than a guitarist? IQ: Did you play Leonidas and a near-future security operative? IQ: Did you play George Washington and the mayor of NYC? IQ: Despite your role in a notorious massacre, was a major university named after you? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/169 "2011-11-26T02:32:07Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQ: Best known for hits in the Sixties? > DQ: Better known as a singer than a guitarist? > > IQ: Did you play Leonidas and a near-future security operative? > IQ: Did you play George Washington and the mayor of NYC? > IQ: Despite your role in a notorious massacre, was a major university named after you? DQ1: No hits in the Sixties DQ2: Let me combine with my answer to previous post’s DQ. Best known as a drummer, somewhat known as a singer, not known at all as a guitarist. IQ1: Don’t know. Take a DQ. IQ2: Not Barry Bostwick of Rocky Horror Picture Show fame (oh, and Spin City I guess) IQ3: Not Brigham Young? Recap: B 1. Male 2. Living 3. Entertainer of some sort 4. Not American 5. European 6. Known for musical performances 7. British 8. Last name starts with B 9. Not best known as a solo artist 10. Over 50 11. Not the frontman of the most popular and best known group I was in, but I was the frontman of later, less popular groups. 12. A drummer, but not with a hair-color related nickname. 13. Not known for playing on any hits in the Sixties 14. Best known as a drummer, somewhat known as singer, not known at all as a guitarist. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/170 "2011-11-26T03:01:59Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQ: Did you play Leonidas and a near-future security operative? > IQ: Did you play George Washington and the mayor of NYC? > IQ: Despite your role in a notorious massacre, was a major university named after you? Gerard Butler in _300_ and _Children of Men_.\* Yes, Barry Bostwick. Yes, Brigham Young (I’m thinking of the Mountain Meadows Massacre). DQ: Is your “B” name a stage name (as opposed to your real name)?\* IQ: Did you pretend to be a campaign advisor to Abraham Lincoln? IQ: Did you nickname a senior aide “Turdblossom”? IQ: Was one of your best-known songs also the title of a popular TV series? \*My mistake! That was Clive Owen in _Children of Men_. Ignore this DQ. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/171 "2011-11-26T03:44:34Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQ: Did you pretend to be a campaign advisor to Abraham Lincoln? > IQ: Did you nickname a senior aide “Turdblossom”? > IQ: Was one of your best-known songs also the title of a popular TV series? IQ1: Don’t know. Take a DQ IQ2: Not George W. Bush, who gave that nickname to Karl Rove IQ3: Not former Go-Go Belinda Carlisle who had a solo hit with _Mad About You_ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/172 "2011-11-26T03:58:20Z")
Bob Newhart had a routine in which he gave advice to ol’ non-telegenic A. Lincoln. Correct as to the other two. So now I’ll ask: DQ: Is your “B” name a stage name (as opposed to your real name)? IQ: Are you an actor who lied about your Vietnam War-era military service? IQ: Did you deliver a rebuke to the King of France in the Kenneth Branagh movie _Henry V_? IQ: Were you born in the same town where former NYC Mayor Fernando Wood died? ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/173 "2011-11-26T04:12:08Z")
IQ: Did your mother own a club in Liverpool circa 1962? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/174 "2011-11-26T08:17:43Z")
Deleting double post… ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/175 "2011-11-26T08:20:47Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > So now I’ll ask: > > DQ: Is your “B” name a stage name (as opposed to your real name)? > > IQ: Are you an actor who lied about your Vietnam War-era military service? > IQ: Did you deliver a rebuke to the King of France in the Kenneth Branagh movie _Henry V_? > IQ: Were you born in the same town where former NYC Mayor Fernando Wood died? DQ: No, the ‘B’ name is my real name. I don’t know any of the IQs, but … > [@AppallingGael](#): > > IQ: Did your mother own a club in Liverpool circa 1962? Yes, I am original Beatles drummer Pete Best!!! My mother owned the Casbah Club, where early incarnations of the Beatles played some of their first gigs. After playing with the Beatles for 2 years, including the legendary Hamburg club days, I was fired from The Beatles by their manager Brian Epstein. Epstein then offered me a position in Lee Curtis & The All Stars, which eventually mutated into Pete Best & The All Stars, and later The Pete Best Four and The Pete Best Combo. None of those bands ever had a hit, and I was fired just after the Beatles got a record deal but before they recorded any of their hits (although 10 tracks I played on did turn up on the \*Anthology \*albums in the 1990s, which made me financially set for the rest of my life) Over to you, AppallingGael, unless Pete Best had the hair-color related nickname, in which case, it’s Sternvogel’s turn… ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/176 "2011-11-26T09:06:08Z")
Not to presume but since I am going to bed, then should Pete not be the hair-color guy, the new letter will be N. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/177 "2011-11-26T20:38:38Z")
Just so no one is left hanging… Jeff Beck did a remake of “Love is Blue.” And Ritchie Blackmore played guitar with Deep Purple, whose first hits were Joe South’s “Hush” and Neil Diamond’s “Kentucky Woman.” ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/178 "2011-11-26T20:58:46Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > DQ: Are you a drummer known by a nickname inspired by the color of his hair? I was thinking (mistakenly, as it turned out) of Peter Edward “Ginger” Baker. > [@](#): > > IQ (in case my hunch is wrong): Although your real first and middle names are Lawrence Peter, are you better known by a nickname? Lawrence Peter Berra is better known as Yogi. For the new game – IQ: Were you a British film star who was also a hit in Albania because few other Western actors passed muster during the country’s Communist era? IQ: Did you explain the difference between “lama” and “llama”? IQ: Were you originally known as Thelma Ryan? ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/179 "2011-11-26T22:18:59Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > IQ: Were you a British film star who was also a hit in Albania because few other Western actors passed muster during the country’s Communist era? > > IQ: Did you explain the difference between “lama” and “llama”? > > IQ: Were you originally known as Thelma Ryan? I am not Ogden Nash, Pat Nixon or…David Niven? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2011/601721/180 "2011-11-27T02:58:19Z")
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