# Botticelli - November 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 30, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196 "2017-10-30T00:21:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/281 "2017-11-27T17:28:04Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > IQ1: Did you frequently star as the grizzled sidekick to the hero in westerns? > IQ2: Are you a rodeo performer and western film star named after an owl? > IQ3: Did you star as Bret Maverick on TV? 1. I am not Gabby Hayes. 2. I am not Hoot Gibson. 3. I am not James Garner. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/282 "2017-11-27T18:06:01Z")
Haha, it was Bandaranaike I was going for for IQ1 - I was a bit hazy on the spelling, didn’t realise I was that hazy though! Also, Indira Gandhi was the answer to IQ3, so I think you get credit for that one. Just one DQ, for Garfield (Sheldon says something like “I mean, he’s a cat, he doesn’t have a job, what’s it to him whether it’s Monday or not?”). As we are at the last DQ, and I can’t think of anyone who fits the criteria, I’ll leave it to Elendil’s Heir who still has one in reserve. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/283 "2017-11-27T18:39:35Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > Haha, it was Bandaranaike I was going for for IQ1 - I was a bit hazy on the spelling, didn’t realise I was that hazy though! Also, Indira Gandhi was the answer to IQ3, so I think you get credit for that one. Just one DQ, for Garfield (Sheldon says something like “I mean, he’s a cat, he doesn’t have a job, what’s it to him whether it’s Monday or not?”). > > As we are at the last DQ, and I can’t think of anyone who fits the criteria, I’ll leave it to Elendil’s Heir who still has one in reserve. Oh, go ahead and guess. At the end of game we often allow more than 20 questions if they’ve already been earned. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/284 "2017-11-27T19:51:32Z")
IQ1: Are you the lead singer of the band \ No Doubt? IQ2: Are you a Jamaican recording artist who starred as Zula in _Conan the Destroyer_? IQ3: Are you the female vocalist/guitarist for the band Sonic Youth? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/285 "2017-11-27T20:15:45Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > IQ1: Are you the lead singer of the band \ No Doubt? > IQ2: Are you a Jamaican recording artist who starred as Zula in _Conan the Destroyer_? > IQ3: Are you the female vocalist/guitarist for the band Sonic Youth? 1. I am not Gwen Stefani. 1. I am not Grace Jones. Take a DQ for #3. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/286 "2017-11-27T21:09:32Z")
Kim Gorman holding a DQ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/287 "2017-11-27T21:29:02Z")
I’m stumped. I yield my earned DQ to whoever would like to ask it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/288 "2017-11-28T15:13:31Z")
Eh, no one bit, so I’ll use it after all. DQ: Known for having had a famous lover? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/289 "2017-11-28T19:10:49Z")
DQs: 1. Real 2. Female 3. Last name starts with G 4. American 5. Deceased 6. Died before 1950 7. Known for the Arts, but not best known for them 8. Considered somewhat a beauty 9. Greatest fame before 1941 10. Greatest fame after 1900 11. Did not have a famous husband 12. Not known for a product or a service 13. Not known primarily for a single event 14. Not a journalist 15. Associated with NYC 16. Not known for politics 17. Known for a crime or scandal 18. Not a victim of a crime 19. Did not die violently 20. Not known for having a famous lover. Re-reading her bio, I realize she was associated with New York City. As this may have affected later questions, I feel the need to add a hint: 1. Has a connection to Star Trek. Everyone else who has a DQ may ask it until 6pm EST today, then I’ll ask for the FirstName LastName questions if it’s still unsolved. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/290 "2017-11-29T00:06:04Z")
Let’s have the FirstName LastName questions now. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/291 "2017-11-29T14:01:08Z")
I’m stumped. I was thinking she might be a famous mistress, but DQ 20 seems to indicate otherwise. The Star Trek clue brings to mind Joan Collins playing Edith Keeler, but that’s not it. I pass. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/292 "2017-11-29T14:57:05Z")
You have until 6pm EST, when I’ll reveal my name. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/293 "2017-11-29T16:41:33Z")
I’m out too - I doubt I have heard of this person, I can’t think of a sensible guess I’m afraid. Not to criticise anyone, but is there a house rule for how famous people need to be? I assume the standard is a bit higher than the original reason for the name of the game, but of course it’s all very subjective. One possible option would be that if none of the players involved in the round has heard of the person, play passes to the next player, but as long as at least one of them has heard of them, the setter gets to go again. On the honour system of course, just like the “no research” rule. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/294 "2017-11-29T17:10:21Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > I’m out too - I doubt I have heard of this person, I can’t think of a sensible guess I’m afraid. > > Not to criticise anyone, but is there a house rule for how famous people need to be? I assume the standard is a bit higher than the original reason for the name of the game, but of course it’s all very subjective. One possible option would be that if none of the players involved in the round has heard of the person, play passes to the next player, but as long as at least one of them has heard of them, the setter gets to go again. On the honour system of course, just like the “no research” rule. The house rule is: somebody else playing has to have heard of him or her. If no one has, the round’s declared null, and whoever hosted before this round takes over. If someone has, then the host goes again. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/295 "2017-11-29T23:41:39Z")
Hello, Suckers! I am \*\*Texas Guinan \*\*, flamboyant owner and hostess of New York’s speakeasy, the 300 Club. (and the source of Whoopi Goldberg’s character’s name and occupation on ST:TNG.) Wikipedia: [Texas Guinan - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Guinan) Has anyone heard of me? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/296 "2017-11-30T02:58:50Z")
Yes, I have, from the early publicity of Whoopi’s first appearance on ST:TNG. Good one, **Prof. P.** ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/297 "2017-11-30T03:05:59Z")
Huh. Didn’t know she actually existed. Despite not knowing about her, this was a fun round. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/298 "2017-11-30T03:13:57Z")
Ah, good. So, on to H! ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/299 "2017-11-30T10:27:09Z")
Well played, no objections here. IQ1: Was your most famous line in (arguably) your second most-famous role an ad lib? IQ2: Did you have a grandson who had a product made by your family business named after him, which is still known as a famous flop? IQ3: Were you a Welsh composer probably most famous for writing the tune to “Jerusalem”? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/300 "2017-11-30T12:29:22Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > Well played, no objections here. > > IQ1: Was your most famous line in (arguably) your second most-famous role an ad lib? > IQ2: Did you have a grandson who had a product made by your family business named after him, which is still known as a famous flop? > IQ3: Were you a Welsh composer probably most famous for writing the tune to “Jerusalem”? 1. Take a DQ. 2. I am not Henry Ford. (Take a DQ if I’ve guessed wrong.) 3. I don’t remember Parry’s first name. Take a DQ. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196.md?page=16)