# Botticelli - November 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 30, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196 "2017-10-30T00:21:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/41 "2017-11-01T20:01:40Z")

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DQ Roundup

1. Real
2. Male
3. American
4. Last name starts with B
5. Not alive
6. Primarily know for the Arts

Take another DQ Dead Cat, I didn’t answer with a B name.

James Bond as a naval commander? No, my foot is staying in place. Also, “The Five” could refer to anything. Google returns a Fox news show and several TV series but composers are a long way down the list. It’d be nice if you could put in a specifier or two next time, but I usually hand out DQs like candy anyway.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/42 "2017-11-01T22:48:59Z")

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So far, Bond, Boromir and _Madeline_’s author were the only ones that wouldn’t have gotten DQs from me.

IQ1: Were you a former Special Forces medic who wrote books about a Roman soldier?  
IQ2: Were you Judge Stone’s bailiff?  
IQ3: Were you the best-known character played by an actress who had earlier appeared on a _Newsweek_ cover as an illustration for an article about teenagers?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/43 "2017-11-01T22:53:06Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write _The Face in the Frost_?
> 2. Did you write _All the Bells on Earth_?
> 3. Did you write _Madeline_?

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> take 3 DQs

#1 was John Bellairs.  
#2 was James Blaylock.  
#3 was Ludwig Bemelmans.

DQs:

1. Died after 1950?
2. Known for the performing arts?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/44 "2017-11-02T00:28:32Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you a former Special Forces medic who wrote books about a Roman soldier?  
> IQ2: Were you Judge Stone’s bailiff?  
> IQ3: Were you the best-known character played by an actress who had earlier appeared on a _Newsweek_ cover as an illustration for an article about teenagers?

DQ, not Bull, not Buffy?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/45 "2017-11-02T00:30:24Z")

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DQ Roundup

1. Real
2. Male
3. American
4. Last name starts with B
5. Not alive
6. Primarily know for the Arts
7. Died after 1950
8. Known for the performing arts

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/46 "2017-11-02T01:58:32Z")

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DQ: Known as an actor?

IQs:

1. Did you star in _The Sunshine Boys_?
2. Did Jane Fonda play you in a musical western?
3. Did you write _The Book of Sand_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/47 "2017-11-02T03:18:16Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> > [@SCAdian](#):
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> > IQ1: Were you a former Special Forces medic who wrote books about a Roman soldier?  
> > IQ2: Were you Judge Stone’s bailiff?  
> > IQ3: Were you the best-known character played by an actress who had earlier appeared on a _Newsweek_ cover as an illustration for an article about teenagers?
> 
> DQ, not Bull, not Buffy?

Barry Sadler.  
Correct.  
Bailey Quarters (_WKRP_).  
[The picture.](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/10/fa/b410faf932ffcc9ff49c816c4330b775--vintage-honda-motorcycles-jan-smithers.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/48 "2017-11-02T11:33:57Z")

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DQ Roundup

1. Real
2. Male
3. American
4. Last name starts with B
5. Not alive
6. Primarily know for the Arts
7. Died after 1950
8. Known for the performing arts
9. Not an actor

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/49 "2017-11-02T11:35:07Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> DQ: Known as an actor?
> 
> IQs:
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> 1. Did you star in _The Sunshine Boys_?
> 2. Did Jane Fonda play you in a musical western?
> 3. Did you write _The Book of Sand_?

not George Burns, not Barbarella?, DQ

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/50 "2017-11-02T12:04:05Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Take another DQ Dead Cat, I didn’t answer with a B name.
> 
> James Bond as a naval commander? No, my foot is staying in place. Also, “The Five” could refer to anything. Google returns a Fox news show and several TV series but composers are a long way down the list. It’d be nice if you could put in a specifier or two next time, but I usually hand out DQs like candy anyway.

Thanks, but I’ll leave the DQ given the difficulty of my questions. Like **SCAdian** , I think I’d have given out more DQs on the questions so far than you have.

My view on IQs is that if the person you’re cluing is really famous, you need to make the IQ a bit obscure otherwise it’s pointless. For example: “Are you a British secret agent?”. Conversely, if the person you’re cluing is obscure, I think you need to give a reasonable amount of information so that the guesser at least has a chance.

On Borodin, I realise it was a minimal clue, but my view was that anyone who could call Borodin to mind would get it from that clue, and for anyone not familiar with Borodin, I could have said “Are you the Russian composer who wrote ‘Prince Igor’?” and it still wouldn’t have been answered correctly, so the extra detail was redundant. I could be wrong, though - I’ll try to keep in line with how everyone else wants to play so do let me know if I’m spoiling things.

Sorry for the sidetrack - back to the game.

IQ1: Did you originally find fame as a musician with Tenacious D before moving into acting?  
IQ2: Were you a record-breaking athlete who also held a doctorate in biology?  
IQ3: Are you a former chairman of the IMF?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/51 "2017-11-02T15:02:42Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> IQ1: Did you originally find fame as a musician with Tenacious D before moving into acting?  
> IQ2: Were you a record-breaking athlete who also held a doctorate in biology?  
> IQ3: Are you a former chairman of the IMF?

not Jack Black, DQ, DQ

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/52 "2017-11-02T17:17:45Z")

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The Borodin question seemed proper to me. If there was another “B” who was a member of another group commonly referred to as “The Five,” the gamemaster could’ve guessed that person. He didn’t, and **Dead Cat** supplied an answer that fit the IQ. DQ earned, fair and square, IMHO.

Previous IQs:

A fictional character, did you fall in love with a man with the first name FitzWilliam? - Elizabeth “Lizzie” Bennet, in _Pride and Prejudice_  
Were you that person’s elder sister? - Jane Bennet  
Did Donald Sutherland play you in a 2005 movie? - Mr. Bennet, in that year’s remake of the Austen novel

Bennet x3!

DQs:

Musician?  
Has won a top award in his field?  
Greatest fame before 1975?

IQs:

Are you the best-known person to hail from Tarth?  
Were you a longtime member of the Kingsguard who was insulted by a new young king?  
Was the Great Sept in King’s Landing named after you?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/53 "2017-11-02T18:38:29Z")

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Correct on Jack Black, for the other two I was thinking of Sir Roger Bannister and Win Bischoff, but I have to disallow both because the former was actually a medical doctor rather than a doctor in biology, and the latter was chairman of Lloyds Banking Group not the IMF. My error, sorry.

Let’s try again.

IQ1: Are you the singer of “Johnny B Goode”?  
IQ2: Did you sing about experiencing a positive mental condition, and furthermore were aware in advance that this would be the case?  
IQ3: Did you fight in the Spanish Civil War and later write about your experiences (among other things)?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/54 "2017-11-02T18:41:40Z")

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DQ Roundup

1. Real
2. Male
3. American
4. Last name starts with B
5. Not alive
6. Primarily know for the Arts
7. Died after 1950
8. Known for the performing arts
9. Not an actor
10. Musician
11. Has won top awards in his field
12. Greatest fame before 1975

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/55 "2017-11-02T18:52:12Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Are you the best-known person to hail from Tarth?  
> Were you a longtime member of the Kingsguard who was insulted by a new young king?  
> Was the Great Sept in King’s Landing named after you?

not Brienne, DQ, not Baelor

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/56 "2017-11-02T18:53:13Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the singer of “Johnny B Goode”?  
> IQ2: Did you sing about experiencing a positive mental condition, and furthermore were aware in advance that this would be the case?  
> IQ3: Did you fight in the Spanish Civil War and later write about your experiences (among other things)?

Not Chuck Berry, DQ DQ

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/57 "2017-11-02T18:58:37Z")

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Correct with Chuck Berry, the other two were James Brown (“I feel good, and I knew that I would”) and Eric Arthur Blair aka George Orwell.

DQ: known for popular music?  
DQ: white?

IQ: were you a child prodigy who went on to make several recordings with your wife (and others) before she tragically died young?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/58 "2017-11-02T20:02:06Z")

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DQ Roundup

1. Real
2. Male
3. American
4. Last name starts with B
5. Not alive
6. Primarily know for the Arts
7. Died after 1950
8. Known for the performing arts
9. Not an actor
10. Musician
11. Has won top awards in his field
12. Greatest fame before 1975
13. Not known for the “pop” music genre
14. White

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/59 "2017-11-02T20:03:15Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> IQ: were you a child prodigy who went on to make several recordings with your wife (and others) before she tragically died young?

dunno

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/60 "2017-11-02T20:19:35Z")

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Previous IQs:

Are you the best-known person to hail from Tarth? - Yes, the redoubtable Brienne, from _Game of Thrones_  
Were you a longtime member of the Kingsguard who was insulted by a new young king? - Ser Barristan Selmy, ditto  
Was the Great Sept in King’s Landing named after you? - Yes, Baelor the Blessed, also ditto

DQ:

Singer?

IQs:

Did Rachel Green sing the opening lines of one of your best-known songs on an episode of _Friends_?  
Were you an in-show supporter of Matt Santos’s Presidential candidacy on _The West Wing_?  
Are you a New Age crooner who had some fame in the Nineties?

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