# Botticelli - November 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 30, 2017, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196 "2017-10-30T00:21:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/161 "2017-11-13T18:47:37Z")

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IQs:

1. Did Yahoo Serious play you in a movie?
2. Did you hang around with Harvey?
3. Are you one of the nine Muses?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/162 "2017-11-13T18:48:50Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a hunter prepared for all seasons?  
> IQ2: Were you a singer whose name literally translates as “Betty Blackhead”?  
> IQ3: Did you discover what most believe to be the most elegant equation in mathematics?

Dunno, dunno, and not… Epictetus?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did Yahoo Serious play you in a movie?
> 2. Did you hang around with Harvey?
> 3. Are you one of the nine Muses?

Not Albert Einstein, Elwood P. Dowd or Euterpe.

E.

1. dead
2. real

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/163 "2017-11-13T19:01:23Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a hunter prepared for all seasons?  
> IQ2: Were you a singer whose name literally translates as “Betty Blackhead”?  
> IQ3: Did you discover what most believe to be the most elegant equation in mathematics?

1. Elmer Fudd (“Duck season! Wabbit season!”)
2. Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
3. Leonhard Euler ([Euler’s Identity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%27s_identity) - it doesn’t look to me like Epictetus was noted for mathematics so I can’t accept your answer I’m afraid)

DQ1: Born west of the Greenwich meridian and east of the international date line (I hope this is accepted as a single DQ, I am just trying to avoid ambiguity!)?  
DQ2: Male?  
DQ3: Born before 1900?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/164 "2017-11-13T19:13:11Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> DQ1: Born west of the Greenwich meridian and east of the international date line (I hope this is accepted as a single DQ, I am just trying to avoid ambiguity!)?  
> DQ2: Male?  
> DQ3: Born before 1900?

That first DQ does seem like two questions to me; what say the other players?

E.

1. dead
2. real
3. male
4. born before 1900

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/165 "2017-11-13T19:19:42Z")

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Happy to let others judge, but I was just aiming for clarity, perhaps unnecessarily. I was originally going to ask “born in the western hemisphere”, but then I thought this could be open to interpretation as some maps don’t place the Greenwich meridian at the centre. So I changed it to “west of the Greenwich meridian”, but technically everyone is born there (if you include -359 degrees west as a valid measurement - some might, some might not). Hence the formulation I arrived at. Sorry for any confusion.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/166 "2017-11-13T23:36:11Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> That first DQ does seem like two questions to me; what say the other players?

It looks to me like a long-winded way of saying “Were you born in the western hemisphere?”  
ETA: Which, upon reading further, I see that it actually was.  
IQ1: Did you relinquish a top job to marry what most people considered to be a very unsuitable woman?  
IQ2: Were you a tenth-century king who ruled only briefly before being murdered?  
IQ3: Are you Beatrice and Eugenie’s father?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/167 "2017-11-14T00:10:38Z")

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IQ1: Are you the artist of the comic strip _Nancy_?  
IQ2: Were you Adlai Stevenson’s running mate in 1956?  
IQ3: Are you a Li’l Abner character whose look causes whammies?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/168 "2017-11-14T14:47:58Z")

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DeadCat’s question was perfectly answerable as it stood, so I’d vote yes. But “born in the western hemisphere” is more straightforward.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/169 "2017-11-14T14:52:45Z")

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Correct on all three.

IQs:

1. Are you the title character of a poem by Longfellow?
2. Did you have a hit this year with _Shape of You_?
3. Are you the “Mistress of the Dark”?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/170 "2017-11-14T19:12:25Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you relinquish a top job to marry what most people considered to be a very unsuitable woman?  
> IQ2: Were you a tenth-century king who ruled only briefly before being murdered?  
> IQ3: Are you Beatrice and Eugenie’s father?

Not King Edward VIII, Edward III or… hmm, isn’t this Prince Andrew, and not Prince Edward?

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the artist of the comic strip _Nancy_?  
> IQ2: Were you Adlai Stevenson’s running mate in 1956?  
> IQ3: Are you a Li’l Abner character whose look causes whammies?

Dunno, not Estes Kefauver and dunno.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you the title character of a poem by Longfellow?
> 2. Did you have a hit this year with _Shape of You_?
> 3. Are you the “Mistress of the Dark”?

Dunno x2; not Elvira.

E.

1. dead
2. real
3. male
4. born before 1900
5. born in the Eastern Hemisphere

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/171 "2017-11-14T19:42:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the artist of the comic strip Nancy?  
> IQ2: Were you Adlai Stevenson’s running mate in 1956?  
> IQ3: Are you a Li’l Abner character whose look causes whammies?
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> Dunno, not Estes Kefauver and dunno.

Ernie Bushmiller, correct, Evil-Eye Fleagle

DQ: European?  
DQ: Known for politics/royalty?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/172 "2017-11-14T19:51:01Z")

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IQ1: Did Julia Roberts portray you in a 2000 film?  
IQ2: Were you Florida Evans in _Good Times_?  
IQ3: Are you the name given by the Moors for Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/173 "2017-11-14T22:32:15Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you the title character of a poem by Longfellow?
> 2. Did you have a hit this year with Shape of You?
> 3. Are you the “Mistress of the Dark”?  
> Dunno x2; not Elvira.

Correct on #3. #1 is Evangeline. #2 is Ed Sheeran.

2 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/174 "2017-11-14T23:19:15Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you relinquish a top job to marry what most people considered to be a very unsuitable woman?  
> IQ2: Were you a tenth-century king who ruled only briefly before being murdered?  
> IQ3: Are you Beatrice and Eugenie’s father?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not King Edward VIII, Edward III or… hmm, isn’t this Prince Andrew, and not Prince Edward?

Correct.  
Edward the Martyr.  
Correct :o – I realised that on the way to work this morning… :mad:  
DQ: Born before 1700?  
IQ1: Did a song say that “next to you, Jimmy Hoffa [was] Lord Fauntleroy”?  
IQ2: Did you play a frontiersman, a millionaire, and a detective?  
IQ3: Were you a civil rights activist who was murdered in Mississippi?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/175 "2017-11-15T10:54:53Z")

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IQ1: Are you regarded as a founding father of geometry?  
IQ2: Are you credited by most historians as being the first European to sail to America?  
IQ3: Did you murder your mother as revenge for her murder of your father?  
Bonus IQ: Did you write a play about the above?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/176 "2017-11-15T19:11:17Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did Julia Roberts portray you in a 2000 film?  
> IQ2: Were you Florida Evans in _Good Times_?  
> IQ3: Are you the name given by the Moors for Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar?

Not Erin Brockovich (featured in a previous Botticelli round here), dunno, and not El Cid.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> …  
> IQ1: Did a song say that “next to you, Jimmy Hoffa [was] Lord Fauntleroy”?  
> IQ2: Did you play a frontiersman, a millionaire, and a detective?  
> IQ3: Were you a civil rights activist who was murdered in Mississippi?

Dunno, not Dana Elcar (guessing), and not Medgar Evers.

> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> IQ1: Are you regarded as a founding father of geometry?  
> IQ2: Are you credited by most historians as being the first European to sail to America?  
> IQ3: Did you murder your mother as revenge for her murder of your father?  
> Bonus IQ: Did you write a play about the above?

Not Euclid, Eric the Red, Electra… or Euripides?

E.

1. dead
2. real
3. male
4. born before 1900
5. born in the Eastern Hemisphere
6. European
7. not known for politics/royalty
8. born after 1700

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/177 "2017-11-15T19:46:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Did Julia Roberts portray you in a 2000 film?  
> IQ2: Were you Florida Evans in Good Times?  
> IQ3: Are you the name given by the Moors for Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar?
> 
> Not Erin Brockovich (featured in a previous Botticelli round here), dunno, and not El Cid.

correct (Yes I know, but I’ve played this game for so long I’m bound to use duplicates), Esther Rolle, correct

DQ: Known for the Arts?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/178 "2017-11-15T19:53:57Z")

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IQ1: Did you play the 9th incarnation of Doctor Who?  
IQ2: Do you portray Heimdall in the Thor movies?  
IQ3: Do you voice Prince Charming in the Shrek movies?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/179 "2017-11-15T20:05:13Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did you play the 9th incarnation of Doctor Who?  
> IQ2: Do you portray Heimdall in the Thor movies?  
> IQ3: Do you voice Prince Charming in the Shrek movies?

Dunno, not Idris Elba, and not Rupert Everett.

E.

1. dead
2. real
3. male
4. born before 1900
5. born in the Eastern Hemisphere
6. European
7. not known for politics/royalty
8. born after 1700
9. not known for the Arts

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2017/800196/180 "2017-11-15T21:08:28Z")

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DQs:

1. Last name starts with E?
2. born after 1800?

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