# Botticelli - November 2018 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [November 6, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104 "2018-11-06T23:35:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/41 "2018-11-14T16:51:09Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > … > > IQs: > > 1. Did you take a famous voyage on the _Beagle_? > 2. According to legend, did you finish the game you were involved in before going to defend your country in battle? > 3. Did you write under the name ‘Boz’? Dennis Weaver was a guess; I was indeed thinking of _Duel_. Take another DQ. Not Charles Darwin, Sir Francis Drake (as the Spanish Armada approached) or Charles Dickens. D. 1. real 2. human 3. dead 4. died before 1900 5. born west of the prime meridian and east of the international date line 6. male 7. last name starts with D 8. not American 9. died before 1800 10. not known for the Arts 11. not known for politics/military 12. European 13. not best known for science 14. died after 1400 ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/42 "2018-11-14T17:12:35Z")
Swept me on those (I didn’t stay away from the UK for long, did I? But those guys are definitely world-famous :)). Extra DQ: known for philosophy? IQs: 1. According to legend, did your son die trying to get too close to the gods? 2. Were you murdered by the title character and his wife? 3. Did you emerge victorious in an apparently one-sided contest against a people whose name now means uncultured? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/43 "2018-11-14T19:28:18Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > …IQs: > > 1. According to legend, did your son die trying to get too close to the gods? > 2. Were you murdered by the title character and his wife? > 3. Did you emerge victorious in an apparently one-sided contest against a people whose name now means uncultured? Not Daedalus or Duncan; dunno. D. 1. real 2. human 3. dead 4. died before 1900 5. born west of the prime meridian and east of the international date line 6. male 7. last name starts with D 8. not American 9. died before 1800 10. not known for the Arts 11. not known for politics/military 12. European 13. not best known for science 14. died after 1400 15. not known for philosophy ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/44 "2018-11-14T19:59:40Z")
Well, another clean sweep. IQs: 1. Were you kidnapped by the alien Tatanga and had to be rescued by Mario? 2. Are you the cousin of two good ol’ boys, who wears tight cut-off jean shorts? 3. Are you a jazz musician who wrote “It Don’t Mean a Thing, If It Ain’t Got That Swing”? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/45 "2018-11-14T21:02:52Z")
> [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > …IQs: > > 1. Were you kidnapped by the alien Tatanga and had to be rescued by Mario? > 2. Are you the cousin of two good ol’ boys, who wears tight cut-off jean shorts? > 3. Are you a jazz musician who wrote “It Don’t Mean a Thing, If It Ain’t Got That Swing”? Dunno, not Daisy Duke (mrowrrrr) or… Duke Ellington? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/46 "2018-11-14T21:26:04Z")
IQs: 1. Are you the curly headed boy on _Stranger Things_? 2. Are you one of the Magnificent Seven team of gymnasts at the 1996 Atlanta games? 3. Are you another of the Magnificent Seven? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/47 "2018-11-14T21:32:51Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Are you the curly headed boy on _Stranger Things_? > 2. Are you one of the Magnificent Seven team of gymnasts at the 1996 Atlanta games? > 3. Are you another of the Magnificent Seven? Dunno x3 ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/48 "2018-11-14T21:48:28Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Are you the curly headed boy on _Stranger Things_? > 2. Are you one of the Magnificent Seven team of gymnasts at the 1996 Atlanta games? > 3. Are you another of the Magnificent Seven? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno x3 #1 is Dustin. #2 and 3 and the Domeniques: Dawes and Moceanu. (I think I spelled the last one correctly.) DQs: 1. Died after 1600? 2. Known for criminal activities? 2 DQs remaining. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/49 "2018-11-14T21:58:30Z")
D. 1. real 2. human 3. dead 4. died before 1900 5. born west of the prime meridian and east of the international date line 6. male 7. last name starts with D 8. not American 9. died before 1800 10. not known for the Arts 11. not known for politics/military 12. European 13. not best known for science 14. died after 1400 15. not known for philosophy 16. died after 1600 17. not known for criminal activities ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/50 "2018-11-14T23:30:58Z")
Correct on Daedalus and Duncan; David defeated Philistine Goliath. DQ: British/Irish? IQs: 1. Did you die young by crashing your Porsche? 2. Were you killed when your scarf became tangled in the wheels of the car you were travelling in, strangling you? 3. Were you the son of a millionaire retail tycoon who died in Paris with Diana, Princess of Wales? ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/51 "2018-11-15T01:24:47Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno, not Daisy Duke (mrowrrrr) or… Duke Ellington? 3 was indeed Duke Ellington; 1 was Princess Daisy. IQs: 1. Were you voiced by an actor from _Dr. Strangelove_ and played physically by an actor from _A Clockwork Orange_? 2. Did you record your role in _2001: A Space Odyssey_ in nine and a half hours? 3. Did you play a character with the same first name in _The Shining_? One DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/52 "2018-11-15T03:26:25Z")
DQ: Explorer or businessman? 1 DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/53 "2018-11-15T03:28:28Z")
IQ: Were you the first Englishman to explore Australia? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/54 "2018-11-15T04:44:52Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > …IQs: > > 1. Did you die young by crashing your Porsche? > 2. Were you killed when your scarf became tangled in the wheels of the car you were travelling in, strangling you? > 3. Were you the son of a millionaire retail tycoon who died in Paris with Diana, Princess of Wales? Not James Dean, Isadora Duncan or Dodi Al-Fayed. > [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > …IQs: > > 1. Were you voiced by an actor from _Dr. Strangelove_ and played physically by an actor from _A Clockwork Orange_? > 2. Did you record your role in _2001: A Space Odyssey_ in nine and a half hours? > 3. Did you play a character with the same first name in _The Shining_?.. Not Darth Vader (good one!), the very-recently-late Douglas Rain and… dunno. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQ: Were you the first Englishman to explore Australia? I would’ve said Capt. Cook, but he’s not a D. Not… Van Diemen? **Prof. P.** , your latest DQ is really two, I think. Those can be very different things, unlike “political/military,” for instance. Does anyone see it differently? D. 1. real 2. human 3. dead 4. died before 1900 5. born west of the prime meridian and east of the international date line 6. male 7. last name starts with D 8. not American 9. died before 1800 10. not known for the Arts 11. not known for politics/military 12. European 13. not best known for science 14. died after 1400 15. not known for philosophy 16. died after 1600 17. not known for criminal activities 18. British/Irish ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/55 "2018-11-15T10:11:53Z")
That last set was a real car crash for me :). I’m not sure about the multiple DQ issue. On the one hand, grouping like that is risky if you get a positive response, as you don’t know which of the options is the positive (unless the setter is so generous as to specify). On the other hand, a negative does allow the elimination of a swathe of people at once. I guess we don’t want to allow DQs of the form “Are you A/B/C/D/E/F…?”. Politics/military does fit together nicely as in most of history, the distinction between the two is not as great as it generally is today. I don’t think the same holds for “explorer/businessman” so I’d be inclined to disallow it. IQs: 1. Did you once notoriously annoy locals in Scotland with your plans for a golf course? 2. Are you one of the very few people to win the football (soccer) World Cup as both a player and coach? 3. Are you a prominent member of the anti-doping community with a name that sounds like you might have a particularly vicious way of extracting samples from male athletes? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/56 "2018-11-15T13:57:20Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > That last set was a real car crash for me :)… Hah! I didn’t even think of that. > [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > …IQs: > > 1. Did you once notoriously annoy locals in Scotland with your plans for a golf course? > 2. Are you one of the very few people to win the football (soccer) World Cup as both a player and coach? > 3. Are you a prominent member of the anti-doping community with a name that sounds like you might have a particularly vicious way of extracting samples from male athletes? Not Donald Trump, whom I deeply regret to acknowledge is now President of the United States; dunno and dunno. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/57 "2018-11-15T14:24:38Z")
> [@](#): > > IQ: Were you the first Englishman to explore Australia? > I would’ve said Capt. Cook, but he’s not a D. Not… Van Diemen? > > Prof. P., your latest DQ is really two, I think. Those can be very different things, unlike “political/military,” for instance. Does anyone see it differently? That was William Dampier. I agree, it’s two subjects, but in one question. I’m asking it that way because we’re down to the last 2 (or so) DQs. I have done that before with no problem (as in “known for religion or social issues”). This way it narrows the scope down somewhat, even if it doesn’t give pinpoint accuracy. Besides, most of the explorers of that age were in it for financial gain, so there’s already a business aspect. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/58 "2018-11-15T15:12:04Z")
Correct on Trump, the others are Frenchman Didier Deschamps, and the wonderfully named Dick Pound. DQ: known for religious activities? 1 DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/59 "2018-11-15T19:30:53Z")
D. 1. real 2. human 3. dead 4. died before 1900 5. born west of the prime meridian and east of the international date line 6. male 7. last name starts with D 8. not American 9. died before 1800 10. not known for the Arts 11. not known for politics/military 12. European 13. not best known for science 14. died after 1400 15. not known for philosophy 16. died after 1600 17. not known for criminal activities 18. British/Irish 19. not known for religious activities ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/60 "2018-11-15T22:09:40Z")
Okay: DQ: Known for exploration? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104.md?page=4)