# Botticelli - November 2018 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [November 6, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104 "2018-11-06T23:35:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/61 "2018-11-15T23:37:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not Darth Vader (good one!), the very-recently-late Douglas Rain and… dunno. 3 was Danny Lloyd. IQs: 1. Did you vie with Raymond and Connie Marble for the title of filthiest person alive? 2. Were you a prominent Chinese politician who noted “black cat, white cat—as long as it catches mice, it’s a good cat”? 3. Does a message congratulating you on your recent royal wedding appear at the end credits of _An American Werewolf in London_? DQ: died after 1700? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/62 "2018-11-16T02:25:38Z")
> [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > …IQs: > > 1. Did you vie with Raymond and Connie Marble for the title of filthiest person alive? > 2. Were you a prominent Chinese politician who noted “black cat, white cat—as long as it catches mice, it’s a good cat”? > 3. Does a message congratulating you on your recent royal wedding appear at the end credits of _An American Werewolf in London_?.. Dunno, not Deng Xiaoping or Princess Diana. D. 1. real 2. human 3. dead 4. died before 1900 5. born west of the prime meridian and east of the international date line 6. male 7. last name starts with D 8. not American 9. died before 1800 10. not known for the Arts 11. not known for politics/military 12. European 13. not best known for science 14. died after 1400 15. not known for philosophy 16. died after 1600 17. not known for criminal activities 18. British/Irish 19. not known for religious activities 20. not known for exploration 21. died after 1700 Please ask any already-earned DQs by noon EDST Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/63 "2018-11-16T09:39:41Z")
I’m stumped on this one - to summarise, we’re looking for a British/Irish man with last name D\_\_\_\_ who was alive in the 1700s, not a writer/artist/politician/military man/philosopher/criminal/religious figure/explorer. I’ve just noticed “not best known for science”, which I hadn’t spotted before - in other words, there is some connection with science, but it’s not what this person is most remembered for. That’s really the only lead we have. I wonder if it could be a medical person? But the only one I know from that era is Edward Jenner, and he died in 1823 (in addition to having the wrong name). If anyone has any better ideas for my last DQ, feel free to use it. Oh, one final thought - would the royal family/nobility come under “politics/military”? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/64 "2018-11-16T14:03:51Z")
DQs: 1. Known for business? 2. Known for one particular event? I’ll let EH answer DC’s question about nobility. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/65 "2018-11-16T16:22:38Z")
Royalty is certainly “politics/military,” but nobility not necessarily so IMHO. This is not a royal personage. **Prof. P.** , you had two DQs as of post 52, and then you rephrased and asked one in post 60. I believe you just have one coming to you at this point, don’t you? If so, which would you like to ask now? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/66 "2018-11-16T16:53:55Z")
I also got one for William Damier at #57. Unless I’m mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/67 "2018-11-16T17:04:25Z")
My last DQ: known for medicine? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/68 "2018-11-16T17:14:45Z")
Ah, I see. Thanks, **Prof. P.** D. 1. real 2. human 3. dead 4. died before 1900 5. born west of the prime meridian and east of the international date line 6. male 7. last name starts with D 8. not American 9. died before 1800 10. not known for the Arts 11. not known for politics/military; wasn’t royalty 12. European 13. not best known for science 14. died after 1400 15. not known for philosophy 16. died after 1600 17. not known for criminal activities 18. British/Irish 19. not known for religious activities 20. not known for exploration 21. died after 1700 22. not particularly known for business 23. best known for one particular event, defined broadly 24. not known for medicine Please note the revised DQ 11. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/69 "2018-11-16T17:16:16Z")
18th century Brit, known for one “event”. Time to get seriously pondering. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/70 "2018-11-17T14:58:54Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno, not Deng Xiaoping or Princess Diana. 1 was Divine, in _Pink Flamingos_. DQ: died after 1765? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/71 "2018-11-17T15:39:43Z")
…not comin’ up with anything… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/72 "2018-11-17T17:39:52Z")
D. 1. real 2. human 3. dead 4. died before 1900 5. born west of the prime meridian and east of the international date line 6. male 7. last name starts with D 8. not American 9. died before 1800 10. not known for the Arts 11. not known for politics/military; wasn’t royalty 12. European 13. not best known for science 14. died after 1400 15. not known for philosophy 16. died after 1600 17. not known for criminal activities 18. British/Irish 19. not known for religious activities 20. not known for exploration 21. died after 1700 22. not particularly known for business 23. best known for one particular event, defined broadly 24. not known for medicine 25. died after 1765 Tawk amongst yourselves, and then ask any earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions by noon EDST Monday. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/73 "2018-11-17T20:09:13Z")
Hoo-boy. I just realized (for this game anyway) that, as the U.S.A. didn’t formally come into existence until 1776 at the earliest, with the Constitution not being in effect until 1789. Which means this guy could have been an American colonist, and not necessarily a denizen of Albion across the waters. Just food for thought. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/74 "2018-11-18T00:32:46Z")
DQ: Are you John Day, the first person to die in a submarine accident? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/75 "2018-11-18T00:44:42Z")
DQ: Are you Jeremiah Dixon, surveyor best known for your work with Charles Mason? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/76 "2018-11-18T05:01:27Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > DQ: Are you Jeremiah Dixon, surveyor best known for your work with Charles Mason? Dingdingding! I am indeed Jeremiah Dixon who with his surveying partner gave us what we now know of (and frequently refer to while playing Botticelli) as the Mason-Dixon Line: [Jeremiah Dixon - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Dixon). Good job, **Prof. P.**! ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/77 "2018-11-18T16:38:22Z")
And on to E! I really wasn’t sure when Dixon died. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/78 "2018-11-18T18:31:42Z")
IQs: Is your desk on display in Steubenville, Ohio? Did a weather-related joke once make the rounds as to the long delay before you got an important job? Are you probably the best-known fictional lover of Turkish Delight? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/79 "2018-11-18T18:40:09Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Is your desk on display in Steubenville, Ohio? > Did a weather-related joke once make the rounds as to the long delay before you got an important job? > Are you probably the best-known fictional lover of Turkish Delight? #1. I am not Thomas Edison (???) #2. Take a DQ. #3. I am not Edmund Pevensie. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104/80 "2018-11-18T19:50:50Z")
Previous IQs: Is your desk on display in Steubenville, Ohio? - Edwin Stanton, Lincoln’s first SECWAR Did a weather-related joke once make the rounds as to the long delay before you got an important job? - Q: How is the Queen [Victoria] like the weather? A: Because she reigns [rains], and reigns, and reigns… and never gives the poor son [Sun] a chance. (As to the then-Prince of Wales, the future King Edward VII) Are you probably the best-known fictional lover of Turkish Delight? - Yes, Edmund Pevensie in the works of C.S. Lewis DQs: real? male? IQs: Are you considered by some the “Father of the H-bomb”? Did Vincent Price play your father, who died too soon? Are you a weepy young lady who really wants to marry her artist sweetheart in _Hello, Dolly_? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2018/824104.md?page=5)