# Botticelli November 2021

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 1, 2021, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596 "2021-11-01T01:35:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 11

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/201 "2021-11-24T17:21:32Z")

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I’ll rephrase that one.

The painter was Samuel F.B. Morse ([Art Object Page](https://www.nga.gov/collection/art-object-page.166463.html))(later better known for telegraphy and his code), and the officer was Maj. Marcus Reno.

DQs:

Story set in the present day at the time of its first publication?  
Sidekick to another character?

IQs:

Were you a British cop who preferred that people not know your first name?  
Were you Ike’s brother?  
Did you sing along to a public performance of “The Volga Boatman”?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/202 "2021-11-24T17:27:22Z")

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DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Character is not American; **but author is American**
4. Last name starts with M
5. Would not be alive today, if real
6. Originally from a book, but later from a movie
7. Character is not from Great Britain
8. First appeared after 1900
9. Not the protagonist
10. Character is European
11. Good guy
12. First appeared after 1950
13. Character from west of Vienna
14. Character from south of Vienna
15. From genre fiction
16. Story not set in the U.S.
17. Nobody has a gun.
18. Story not set in the present time at its first publication, except for the introduction and copious footnotes
19. Not a sidekick

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/203 "2021-11-24T17:29:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you a British cop who preferred that people not know your first name?  
> Were you Ike’s brother?  
> Did you sing along to a public performance of “The Volga Boatman”?

#1. Take a DQ.  
#2. I am not Milton Eisenhower.  
#3. I am not Groucho Marx (wild-ass guess)

And that makes 20 or more DQs. Please ask all DQs by noon Friday, Nov. 26th. Happy Thanksgiving!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/204 "2021-11-24T17:38:05Z")

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DCI Endeavour Morse; yes, Milton Eisenhower; and Mikhail Gorbachev, when he visited the Reagan White House and Van Cliburn played the tune on the piano at a state reception.

Hmm. Can’t figure out who this guy is. I yield my two earned DQs to whoever would like to ask them.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/205 "2021-11-26T17:19:30Z")

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Okay. Please ask your last “Are you FirstName LastName?” questions by 6pm tomorrow, Nov. 27th.

DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Character is not American; **but author is American**
4. Last name starts with M
5. Would not be alive today, if real; in fact, the character is dead before the book starts.
6. Originally from a book, but later from a movie
7. Character is not from Great Britain
8. First appeared after 1900
9. Not the protagonist
10. Character is European
11. Good guy
12. First appeared after 1950
13. Character from west of Vienna
14. Character from south of Vienna
15. From genre fiction
16. Story not set in the U.S.
17. Nobody has a gun.
18. Story not set in the present time at its first publication, except for the introduction and copious footnotes
19. Not a sidekick
20. Spaniard
21. Historical fantasy genre

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/206 "2021-11-27T04:13:04Z")

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Are you Inigo Montoya?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/207 "2021-11-27T15:16:35Z")

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So close, but see #5. “dead before the start of the story”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/208 "2021-11-27T23:01:08Z")

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**Hello, my name is Domingo Montoya!   
Count Rugen killed me; he should prepare to die!**

Yes, I’m Inigo’s dear departed doomed dad from S. Morganstern’s classic tale _The Princess Bride_, “translated” and scrreenplay by William Goldman.

I’m gonna rule that **Chock’s** guess was close enoguh. Take it away, CFOHG!

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/209 "2021-11-28T09:32:54Z")

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Thank you! Botticelli joins horseshoes and hand grenades.

I did indeed overlook #5 - or I could try to argue that Inigo was dead by the start of the framing story, although I never read the book, so I don’t know if the book has the same framing story as the film.

Next up… R  
[![](https://img.rawpixel.com/s3fs-private/rawpixel_images/website_content/pdflowerset16-aum-18-b-leaves_1.jpg?bg=transparent&con=3&cs=srgb&dpr=1&fm=jpg&ixlib=php-3.1.0&q=80&usm=15&vib=3&w=1300&s=00e46c3e5958dfafe0581f8be5193044) ](https://img.rawpixel.com/s3fs-private/rawpixel_images/website_content/pdflowerset16-aum-18-b-leaves_1.jpg?bg=transparent&con=3&cs=srgb&dpr=1&fm=jpg&ixlib=php-3.1.0&q=80&usm=15&vib=3&w=1300&s=00e46c3e5958dfafe0581f8be5193044)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/210 "2021-11-28T14:37:36Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you born Leonard Slye?
2. Did you have a hit with _Dizzy_?
3. Were you the original choice to play Bart in _Blazing Saddles_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/211 "2021-11-28T14:46:08Z")

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IQs:  
1. Were you a B-movie-actor-turned-US-president?  
2. Were you the astrology-consulting wife of the above person?  
3. Are you their atheist son?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/212 "2021-11-29T03:40:06Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> 1. Were you born Leonard Slye?
> 2. Did you have a hit with _Dizzy_ ?
> 3. Were you the original choice to play Bart in _Blazing Saddles_ ?

Take 2 DQs  
Not Richard Pryor

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. Were you a B-movie-actor-turned-US-president?
> 2. Were you the astrology-consulting wife of the above person?
> 3. Are you their atheist son?

Not Ronald Reagan  
Not Nancy Reagan  
Not, hmmm, I’ll go with Ron Reagan Jr since he’s a leftie radio guy. Take a DQ if it was the other one.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/213 "2021-11-29T13:09:19Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
> >
> > 1. Were you born Leonard Slye?
> > 
> > > 1. Did you have a hit with _Dizzy_ ?
> > > 2. Were you the original choice to play Bart in _Blazing Saddles_ ?
> 
> Take 2 DQs  
> Not Richard Pryor

#1 was Roy Rogers.  
#2 was Tommy Roe.  
Correct on Richard Pryor.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Last name starts with R?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/214 "2021-11-29T13:11:33Z")

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IQs:

1. Is your most recent book about a descendant of Captain Nemo?
2. Are you one of the stars of the film _Red Notice_?
3. Were you the lead singer for the Commodores?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/215 "2021-11-29T14:55:06Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
>
> Not Ronald Reagan  
> Not Nancy Reagan  
> Not, hmmm, I’ll go with Ron Reagan Jr since he’s a leftie radio guy. Take a DQ if it was the other one.

A clean sweep!

IQs:  
1. Come, let’s mix with members of your family, walk with sticks and umba-rellas?  
2. Were you Marion Crane on _Bates Motel_?  
3. Did you write about a Freaky Friday?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/216 "2021-11-29T17:29:40Z")

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DQs:  
**R**

1. Fictional
2. First name starts with R

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/217 "2021-11-29T17:30:50Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> 1. Is your most recent book about a descendant of Captain Nemo?
> 2. Are you one of the stars of the film _Red Notice_ ?
> 3. Were you the lead singer for the Commodores?

Take 2 DQs  
Not Lionel Ritchie

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> :
> 
> 1. Come, let’s mix with members of your family, walk with sticks and umba-rellas?
> 2. Were you Marion Crane on _Bates Motel_ ?
> 3. Did you write about a Freaky Friday?

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> 1. Come, let’s mix with members of your family, walk with sticks and umba-rellas?
> 2. Were you Marion Crane on _Bates Motel_ ?
> 3. Did you write about a Freaky Friday?

DQ  
Not Rihanna  
DQ

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/218 "2021-11-29T18:46:34Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> DQ  
> Not Rihanna  
> DQ

1 was John D. Rockefeller (in “Puttin’ on the Ritz”); 3 was Mary Rodgers. 2 was correct.

DQs:  
1. male?  
2. created after 1920?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/219 "2021-11-29T18:57:46Z")

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DQs:  
 **R**

1. Fictional
2. First name starts with R
3. Male
4. Created after 1920

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2021/953596/220 "2021-11-29T19:03:49Z")

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Well done, **CFOHG**!

IQs:

Did you live near the eaves of Rhosgobel?  
You are a real person. On a sitcom, did a subordinate (somewhat enviously) suspect that a coworker was having an affair with you?  
Were you that coworker?

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