# Botticelli - November 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 3, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551 "2023-11-03T23:20:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/61 "2023-11-14T17:57:59Z")

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**S**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/62 "2023-11-14T17:59:54Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> - Are you a fictional character often called “A modern day Robin Hood” and who was created by Leslie Charteris?
> - In the Dragonriders of Pern books, did you marry Menolly?
> - Did you write a trilogy about a cat named Carbonel?

Not Simon Templar AKA The Saint  
Take 2 DQs

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> 1. Were you a Biblical figure who have his name to a sin much deprecated by the medieval Church (no, no the masturbation one).
> 2. Were you the last peer beheaded at the Tower of London?
> 3. Were you a Mike Myers SNL character who liked to make “drawerings” from his bathtub?

Hmm…Sodom was a place, so not that…DQ  
DQ  
Not Simon

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/63 "2023-11-14T18:20:57Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > 1. Were you a Biblical figure who have his name to a sin much deprecated by the medieval Church (no, no the masturbation one).
> > 2. Were you the last peer beheaded at the Tower of London?
> > 3. Were you a Mike Myers SNL character who liked to make “drawerings” from his bathtub?
> 
> Hmm…Sodom was a place, so not that…DQ  
> DQ  
> Not Simon

More Simons.

1. is Simon Magus, a New Testament magician who according to the Book of Acts tried to buy the power to confer the Holy Spirit from the Apostles; the buying and selling of holy offices such as bishoprics and abbacies is the sin of simony, and contributed to the Reformation.
2. was Simon Fraser, “The Fox”, 11th Lord Lovat, who was beheaded for treason, for leading his clansmen out in the 1745 Jacobite rebellion.
3. was indeed Simon, who likes to make drawerings.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/64 "2023-11-14T21:14:43Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you Lincoln’s first SECWAR? - Simon Cameron  
Were you his second? - Edwin Stanton  
Were you his SECSTATE, and Andrew Johnson’s, too? - William H. Seward

DQs:

American?  
Last name start with S?  
Best known for the Arts?

IQs:

Were you legendarily too shy to woo your true love?  
Did Brienne kill you in the woods near Winterfell?  
Did both Calvin Coolidge and FDR appoint you to seats on the Supreme Court?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/65 "2023-11-14T21:57:15Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the first Christian martyr?
2. Did you write _The Book of Swords_?
3. Were you a comedian and a producer for whom two sitcom characters were named?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/66 "2023-11-15T00:22:36Z")

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1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. Last name starts with S
6. Best known for the Arts, in a way

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/67 "2023-11-15T00:27:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you legendarily too shy to woo your true love?  
> Did Brienne kill you in the woods near Winterfell?  
> Did both Calvin Coolidge and FDR appoint you to seats on the Supreme Court?

2 DQs  
Not Harlan Stone

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> 1. Were you the first Christian martyr?
> 2. Did you write _The Book of Swords_?
> 3. Were you a comedian and a producer for whom two sitcom characters were named?

Not St. Stephen  
DQ  
Not Sheldon Leonard

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/68 "2023-11-15T01:36:21Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> 1. Are you a fictional character often called “A modern day Robin Hood” and who was created by Leslie Charteris?
> 
> 2. In the Dragonriders of Pern books, did you marry Menolly?
> 
> 3. Did you write a trilogy about a cat named Carbonel?

Correct, Sebell, Barbara Sleigh.

DQs:

1. Caucasian?
2. Died on before 1900?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/69 "2023-11-15T02:06:09Z")

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**S**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. Last name starts with S
6. Best known for the Arts, in a way
7. Caucasian
8. Died before 1900

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/70 "2023-11-15T12:29:11Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > 1. Were you the first Christian martyr?
> > 2. Did you write _The Book of Swords_?
> > 3. Were you a comedian and a producer for whom two sitcom characters were named?
> 
> Not St. Stephen  
> DQ  
> Not Sheldon Leonard

Correct, Robert Silverberg, correct.

1. Died before 1700?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/71 "2023-11-15T17:27:21Z")

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DQs, that I never got around to asking because I was late for the dentist:

1. European?
2. Known for music?

IQs:

1. Did you write the lyrics of “A Boy Named Sue”?
2. Were you a sultan of Egypt and brother of Saladin?
3. Were you surprised to find out that people like you, they really like you?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/72 "2023-11-15T19:11:49Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you legendarily too shy to woo your true love? - Miles Standish, in early Colonial American lore  
Did Brienne kill you in the woods near Winterfell? - Stannis Baratheon, in _Game of Thrones_  
Did both Calvin Coolidge and FDR appoint you to seats on the Supreme Court? - Yes, Harlan F. Stone. Although a Republican and appointed by a Republican, he was a reliable-enough pro-New Deal vote on the court that FDR made him Chief Justice. (Per Wiki: “To date, Justice Stone is the only justice to have occupied all nine seniority positions on the bench, having moved from most junior associate justice to most senior associate justice and then to chief justice”).

Two DQs reserved.

IQs:

Did you call a truce for a foe’s wedding night?  
Was your father a diplomat and your mother a teacher?  
Did two different actresses play you in two successive movies?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/73 "2023-11-15T19:33:27Z")

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**S**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. Last name starts with S
6. Best known for the Arts, in a way
7. Caucasian
8. Died before 1900
9. Died after 1700
10. European
11. Known for music

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/74 "2023-11-15T19:34:55Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> 1. Did you write the lyrics of “A Boy Named Sue”?
> 2. Were you a sultan of Egypt and brother of Saladin?
> 3. Were you surprised to find out that people like you, they really like you?

Not Shel Silverstein  
DQ  
Not Sally Field

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you call a truce for a foe’s wedding night?  
> Was your father a diplomat and your mother a teacher?  
> Did two different actresses play you in two successive movies?

Take 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/75 "2023-11-15T19:49:34Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you call a truce for a foe’s wedding night? - Saladin, during the Crusades  
Was your father a diplomat and your mother a teacher? - Cmdr. Spock, on _Star Trek_  
Did two different actresses play you in two successive movies? - Lt. Saavik, played by Kirstie Alley in _STII: Wrath of Khan_ and Robin Curtis in _STIII: The Search for Spock_.

DQs:

European?  
Best known as a singer?  
Best known as a solo musician?

Two DQs reserved.

IQs:

Were the Cleveland Indians supposedly named after you?  
Have you written about Lincoln’s top naval officers, the Battle of Midway and many other such topics?  
Did Robert Lawson depict you as a blowhard, a rabble-rouser and a mooch?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/76 "2023-11-15T21:40:53Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you a mean ol’ puddy tat?
2. Are you a title character in a song on Cher’s new album?
3. Are Brad and Janet on their way to see you when their car breaks down in the rain?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/77 "2023-11-15T22:04:37Z")

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**S**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. Last name starts with S
6. Best known for the Arts, in a way
7. Caucasian
8. Died before 1900
9. Died after 1700
10. European
11. Known for music
12. Not best known as a singer
13. Not best known as a solo musician

EH - European was already asked in #10. You still have 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/78 "2023-11-15T22:07:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were the Cleveland Indians supposedly named after you?  
> Have you written about Lincoln’s top naval officers, the Battle of Midway and many other such topics?  
> Did Robert Lawson depict you as a blowhard, a rabble-rouser and a mooch?

3 more DQs

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> 1. Are you a mean ol’ puddy tat?
> 2. Are you a title character in a song on Cher’s new album?
> 3. Are Brad and Janet on their way to see you when their car breaks down in the rain?

Not Sylvester  
DQ  
Not Dr. Everett Scott 🧻

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/79 "2023-11-16T00:14:44Z")

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Ah, thanks. I’d overlooked that “European?” was already asked.

Previous IQs:

Were the Cleveland Indians supposedly named after you? - Alex Sockalexis, who had Native American blood  
Have you written about Lincoln’s top naval officers, the Battle of Midway and many other such topics? - Naval historian Craig Symond  
Did Robert Lawson depict you as a blowhard, a rabble-rouser and a mooch? - Sam Adams, in the YA book _Mr. Revere and I_

DQs:

From the British Isles?  
Best known as an instrumentalist?  
Won a top music award?  
Greatest fame before 1980?

Two DQs reserved.

IQs:

Were you a hardboiled private eye?  
Did Pittsburgh Pirates player Phil Garner capitalize on his resemblance to you?  
Were you a good-humored African star of Richmond FC?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/80 "2023-11-16T01:05:43Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > 1. Did you write the lyrics of “A Boy Named Sue”?
> > 2. Were you a sultan of Egypt and brother of Saladin?
> > 3. Were you surprised to find out that people like you, they really like you?
> 
> Not Shel Silverstein  
> DQ  
> Not Sally Field

Correct on 1 and 3. 2 was Ahmed ibn Najm al-Din, known to the Crusaders as Safadin.

DQ: Mother tongue was English?

IQs:

1. Were you chief of the tigers, and principal antagonist to the man-cub?
2. Are you a singer with a truthful pelvis?
3. Are you good enough, strong enough, and doggone it, people like you?

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