# Botticelli - November 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 3, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551 "2023-11-03T23:20:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 8

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/141 "2023-11-24T21:06:52Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > IQ1: Do Dale Hawkins, Mick Jagger, and John Fogerty all like the way you walk, like the way you talk?  
> > IQ2: Were you a prominent figure in the right-to-die movement?  
> > IQ3: Were you the naked civil servant?
> 
> 1. I am not Suzy Q.
> 2. I am not Karen Quinlan (I think that was the spelling).
> 3. Take a DQ.

Yes, Yes, Quentin Crisp

DQ; Known for music?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2023, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/142 "2023-11-24T22:13:54Z")

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1. Real.
2. Female.
3. Dead.
4. Not known for the sciences.
5. American.
6. Best known for the arts.
7. Died after 1950.
8. Surname begins with “Q”.
9. Died after 1990.
10. Not known for acting.
11. Won a top award in her field.
12. Attractive, but not primarily known as a beauty.
13. Known for the performing arts.
14. Known for music.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/143 "2023-11-25T13:17:52Z")

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Since we have no more IQs, and I have no more DQs I care to ask, and as I think I know who this is….

DQ:

Are you a female musician whose first name seems misspelled, and whose last name suggests there might be four of her?

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/144 "2023-11-25T13:23:56Z")

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DQs:

1. Caucasian?
2. Singer?
3. Died since 2010?

Suzi Quatro put out an album of duets with K. T. Tunstall this year. Madame P’s a fan of K.T.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/145 "2023-11-26T00:30:21Z")

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1. Real.
2. Female.
3. Dead.
4. Not known for the sciences.
5. American.
6. Best known for the arts.
7. Died after 1950.
8. Surname begins with “Q”.
9. Died after 1990.
10. Not known for acting.
11. Won a top award in her field.
12. Attractive, but not primarily known as a beauty.
13. Known for the performing arts.
14. Known for music.
15. Not a female musician whose first name seems misspelled, and whose last name suggests there might be four of her.
16. White, but not Caucasian.
17. Singer.
18. Died before 2010.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/146 "2023-11-26T00:48:15Z")

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DQs:

1. Known for rock/pop?
2. Best known as a,solo artist?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/147 "2023-11-26T00:59:45Z")

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1. Real.
2. Female.
3. Dead.
4. Not known for the sciences.
5. American.
6. Best known for the arts.
7. Died after 1950.
8. Surname begins with “Q”.
9. Died after 1990.
10. Not known for acting.
11. Won a top award in her field.
12. Attractive, but not primarily known as a beauty.
13. Known for the performing arts.
14. Known for music.
15. Not a female musician whose first name seems misspelled, and whose last name suggests there might be four of her.
16. White, but not Caucasian.
17. Singer.
18. Died before 2010.
19. Known for a pop-adjacent genre.
20. Best known as a soloist.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/148 "2023-11-26T03:25:53Z")

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Damn, thought I had her. I yield my remaining DQ to whoever would like to ask it.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/149 "2023-11-26T05:05:16Z")

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I’m out of DQs, so I’ll jump to  
Are you Selena Quintanilla, better known by her stage name Selena?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/150 "2023-11-26T05:08:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Damn, thought I had her. I yield my remaining DQ to whoever would like to ask it

You and the **Prof** , both. Not Suzi Quatro.

I honestly didn’t think it would take the full twenty DQs to get this, given the rarity of famous “Q” names. But since the game’s not fun if no one guesses correctly, I’ll suggest that the remaining DQs might profitably be directed at this singer’s _first_ name (by which she was professionally known), or the manner of her death.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/151 "2023-11-26T05:17:26Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> I’m out of DQs so I’ll jump to  
> Are you Selena Quintanilla, better known by her stage name Selena?

**Whoop! Whoop! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!** Yes, I am **Selena Quintanilla-Perez** , “Queen of Tejano Music” and most loved Mexican-American musician of her time, tragically murdered by the president of her fan club in 1995. **Chock Full Of Heady Goodness** bears the bell away! Well-done, **CFOHG**!

**EH** , you see why I thought you had it but had made a typo?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/152 "2023-11-26T16:35:40Z")

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I’m sure I’ve read her full name someplace, but I only remember her as Selena.

Very nice pick, **SMV** , and amazing job, **CFOHG!**

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/153 "2023-11-26T21:13:02Z")

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Yup, I get it, thanks, **SMV**. Don’t think I ever heard or knew her last name, though.

Well done, **CFOHG**!

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/154 "2023-11-27T06:43:25Z")

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The “causasian, but not white” was the big clue for me. Selena was the first deceased female American Latina singer I could think of. Luckily I remembered her last name from the time 10 years ago when I was explaining to my kids I was not referring to Selena Gomez.

Next up… **M**  
[![](https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/05/88/40/81/360_F_588408144_e2OVRkFdulmo5lRGXq1zJayvbgM8h0ro.jpg) ](https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/05/88/40/81/360_F_588408144_e2OVRkFdulmo5lRGXq1zJayvbgM8h0ro.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/155 "2023-11-27T13:58:28Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> The “causasian, but not white” was the big clue for me. Selena was the first deceased female American Latina singer I could think of. Luckily I remembered her last name from the time 10 years ago when I was explaining to my kids I was not referring to Selena Gomez.

Yeah, I puzzled on how to answer that. Hispanic people seem to now fall into the category of “brown”, but if you look at a picture of Selena, she’s as pale-skinned as any other “white” person. If you hadn’t gotten it, I was going to change the answer to “Hispanic”, to make it a bit easier.

Anyway, onto “M”

1. Are you a sad young man whose best friends are a Watchdog and a Humbug?
2. Were you the mess officer for the 256th Squadron on Pianosa, who made a fortune buying eggs for 5 cents an egg, and selling them for 1 cent?
3. Did you live with your grandfather in a boarding house with a neurotic young man, a sentient cockroach, and a penguin?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/156 "2023-11-27T14:35:51Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you known as Mr. White Christmas and Mr. Snow?
2. Are you #1’s contrary brother?
3. Were you dead to begin with, dead as a doornail?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/157 "2023-11-27T17:59:24Z")

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M it is!

IQs:

Late in life, did you do an ad for Louis Vuitton luggage?  
Did someone joke that he knew you before you were Greek?  
Did you, after shrugging, eat a sandwich that a pigeon pooped on?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/158 "2023-11-27T18:27:48Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> 1. Are you a sad young man whose best friends are a Watchdog and a Humbug?
> 2. Were you the mess officer for the 256th Squadron on Pianosa, who made a fortune buying eggs for 5 cents an egg, and selling them for 1 cent?
> 3. Did you live with your grandfather in a boarding house with a neurotic young man, a sentient cockroach, and a penguin?

Not Milo from the underappreciated _The Phantom Tollbooth_  
DQ - probably another Milo  
Not Milo Bloom from _Bloom County_

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> 1. Are you known as Mr. White Christmas and Mr. Snow?
> 2. Are you #1’s contrary brother?
> 3. Were you dead to begin with, dead as a doornail?

Not Cold Miser  
Not Heat Miser  
Not Jacob Marley

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Late in life, did you do an ad for Louis Vuitton luggage?  
> Did someone joke that he knew you before you were Greek?  
> Did you, after shrugging, eat a sandwich that a pigeon pooped on?

DQ  
Not right wing troll Milo Yannapoplis?? Just a guess and I’m sure I butchered the spelling  
DQ - I can picture the grandma in _National Lampoon’s Vacation_ shrugging and eating a sandwich the dog peed on, but not a similar pigeon poop scene.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/159 "2023-11-27T18:38:59Z")

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Previous DQs:

Late in life, did you do an ad for Louis Vuitton luggage? - Mikhail Gorbachev  
Did someone joke that he knew you before you were Greek? - Gov. Michael Dukakis, who leaned into his ethnic identity later in his career  
Did you, after shrugging, eat a sandwich that a pigeon pooped on? - Det. Michael “Mick” Belker, on stakeout in a ruined house in _Hill Street Blues_

Mikhail/Michael x3!

DQs:

Real?  
Male?  
Last name start with M?

IQs:

Did you lead The Citadel after WWII?  
Were you a Western gunslinger with the nickname of a flying critter?  
Were you chief engineer of DS9?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/160 "2023-11-27T18:53:38Z")

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Swept me.

IQs:

1. Are you Hercules Grytpype-Thynne’s French thug sidekick on the highly acclaimed mock-leather-covered all-whistling 1950’s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
2. Did you write _Nearer My God To Thee_?
3. Did The Gryphon say you had no sorrow, really?

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