# Botticelli - November 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 3, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551 "2023-11-03T23:20:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 9

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/161 "2023-11-27T19:02:39Z")

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**M**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with M

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/162 "2023-11-27T19:04:41Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Did you lead The Citadel after WWII?  
> Were you a Western gunslinger with the nickname of a flying critter?  
> Were you chief engineer of DS9?

DQ  
Not Bat Masterson  
Not Miles O’Brian

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> 1. Are you Hercules Grytpype-Thynne’s French thug sidekick on the highly acclaimed mock-leather-covered all-whistling 1950’s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
> 2. Did you write _Nearer My God To Thee_?
> 3. Did The Gryphon say you had no sorrow, really?

2 DQs  
Not the Mock Turtle

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/163 "2023-11-27T19:15:23Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
> >
> > 1. Are you Hercules Grytpype-Thynne’s French thug sidekick on the highly acclaimed mock-leather-covered all-whistling 1950’s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
> > 2. Did you write _Nearer My God To Thee_?
> > 3. Did The Gryphon say you had no sorrow, really?
> 
> 2 DQs  
> Not the Mock Turtle

#1 was Count Jim (Cockshafer) Moriarty.  
#2 was Lowell Mason.  
Correct on #3.

DQs:

1. Living?
2. American?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/164 "2023-11-27T19:20:28Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > 1. Are you a sad young man whose best friends are a Watchdog and a Humbug?
> > 2. Were you the mess officer for the 256th Squadron on Pianosa, who made a fortune buying eggs for 5 cents an egg, and selling them for 1 cent?
> > 3. Did you live with your grandfather in a boarding house with a neurotic young man, a sentient cockroach, and a penguin?
> 
> Not Milo from the underappreciated _The Phantom Tollbooth_  
> DQ - probably another Milo  
> Not Milo Bloom from _Bloom County_

Correct on 1 and 3. As surmised, 2 was another Milo, Milo Minderbinder, the utterly amoral mess officer from _Catch-22._

DQ: First name starts with A - M?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/165 "2023-11-27T19:35:14Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you lead The Citadel after WWII? - Gen. Mark Clark  
Were you a Western gunslinger with the nickname of a flying critter? - Yes, Bartholemew William Barclay “Bat” Masterson  
Were you chief engineer of DS9? - Yes, Miles O’Brien (sic)

DQ:

Best known for politics/military?

IQs:

Were you a deposed Latin American dictator in a Sherlock Holmes story?  
Are you the mayor of Lakewood, Ohio?  
A businessman and big-city mayor, did you have a very direct approach to pretty girls early in your career?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/166 "2023-11-27T19:44:57Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you an actress who was married to Neil Simon?
2. Are you an actress who was married to Antonio Banderas?
3. Were you a friar who was very successful with peas?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/167 "2023-11-27T20:12:29Z")

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**M**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with M
4. Living
5. Not American
6. First name starts with A-M
7. Not best known for politics/military

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/168 "2023-11-27T20:13:47Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you a deposed Latin American dictator in a Sherlock Holmes story?  
> Are you the mayor of Lakewood, Ohio?  
> A businessman and big-city mayor, did you have a very direct approach to pretty girls early in your career?

2 DQs  
Not Marion Barry?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> 1. Are you an actress who was married to Neil Simon?
> 2. Are you an actress who was married to Antonio Banderas?
> 3. Were you a friar who was very successful with peas?

Not Marsha Mason  
Not Melanie Griffith  
Not Mendel

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/169 "2023-11-27T22:34:52Z")

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Swept again.

IQs:

1. Do you currently make between 2.5 and 3 million dollars a year from sales/plays of one particular seasonal song?
2. Did you win the Indianapolis 500 in 1969 and never again?
3. Did you write the verse play _J. B._?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/170 "2023-11-27T23:10:45Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you possibly the most sucessful gospel singer of all time, the first one to have a song hit #2 on the _Billboard_ chart, and subsequently singing the national anthem at a Presidential inauguration?

2. Was your name adapted and used as a nickname for extremely long-lived humans in the novel _Altered Carbon_?

3. Were you the author of that novel?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Are you Hercules Grytpype-Thynne’s French thug sidekick on the highly acclaimed mock-leather-covered all-whistling 1950’s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?

Note to self: Memorize the names of every character, actor, producer, and writer on _The Goon Show_, in preparation for the **Prof** ’s next round.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/171 "2023-11-27T23:46:21Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Note to self: Memorize the names of every character, actor, producer, and writer on _The Goon Show_, in preparation for the **Prof** ’s next round.

Sapristi knuckoes! Are you in for a treat!!

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/172 "2023-11-28T00:13:49Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> 1. Do you currently make between 2.5 and 3 million dollars a year from sales/plays of one particular seasonal song?
> 2. Did you win the Indianapolis 500 in 1969 and never again?
> 3. Did you write the verse play _J. B._?

Not Mariah Carey?  
2 DQs

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> 1. Were you possibly the most sucessful gospel singer of all time, the first one to have a song hit #2 on the _Billboard_ chart, and subsequently singing the national anthem at a Presidential inauguration?
> 2. Was your name adapted and used as a nickname for extremely long-lived humans in the novel _Altered Carbon_?
> 3. Were you the author of that novel?

DQ  
Not Methusalah  
DQ

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/173 "2023-11-28T14:25:53Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
> >
> > 1. Do you currently make between 2.5 and 3 million dollars a year from sales/plays of one particular seasonal song?
> > 2. Did you win the Indianapolis 500 in 1969 and never again?
> > 3. Did you write the verse play _J. B._?
> 
> Not Mariah Carey?  
> 2 DQs

1. Correct on Mariah.  
2 is Mario Andretti.  
3 is Archibald MacLeish.

DQs:

1. European?
2. Born after 1980?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/174 "2023-11-28T14:59:24Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > 1. singer of all time, the first one to have a song hit #2 on the _Billboard_ chart, and subsequently singing the national anthem at a Presidential inauguration?
> > 2. Was your name adapted and used as a nickname for extremely long-lived humans in the novel _Altered Carbon_?
> > 3. Were you the author of that novel?
> 
> DQ  
> Not Methusalah  
> DQ

1 was Mahalia Jackson. Correct, though misspelled, on Methuselah. 3 was Richard Morgan.

DQs:

1. Mother tongue is English?
2. Known for the arts?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/175 "2023-11-28T17:45:38Z")

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**M**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with M
4. Living
5. Not American
6. First name starts with A-M
7. Not best known for politics/military
8. European
9. Born before 1980
10. Mother tongue is not English
11. Known for the arts

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/176 "2023-11-28T18:17:42Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a deposed Latin American dictator in a Sherlock Holmes story? - Don Juan Murillo, in “Wisteria Lodge”  
Are you the mayor of Lakewood, Ohio? - Mayor Meghan George  
A businessman and big-city mayor, did you have a very direct approach to pretty girls early in your career? - Not Marion Berry but NYC’s own Michael Bloomberg, who once admitted that he would ask girls point-blank, soon after meeting them, if they’d go to bed with him. A friend asked, “Didn’t you get slapped a lot?” He replied, “Yeah… but I got laid a lot, too!”

DQs:

Best known for the performing arts?  
Considered handsome?  
Born before 1880?

IQs:

Were you stabbed to death in your bath?  
Did you say, late in life, “I am always learning”?  
Did you write and illustrate _Don’t Let the Pigeon Drive the Bus_?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/177 "2023-11-28T18:35:54Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you a composer with a scatological fetish, who wrote (among symphonies, concertos, and operas) a canon whose title translates to “Lick Me in the Ass”?

2. Were you another composer who, despite his name, was not related to one of @Prof.Pepperwinkle’s IQs in post #166?

3. Did you have a hit in the 70’s with the song “Midnight in the Oasis”?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/178 "2023-11-28T19:50:33Z")

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**M**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with M
4. Living
5. Not American
6. First name starts with A-M
7. Not best known for politics/military
8. European
9. Born before 1980
10. Mother tongue is not English
11. Known for the arts
12. Best known for the performing arts, but not as a performer
13. Not considered handsome, at least not in my opinion
14. Born before 1980 (I assume “1880” was a typo given #4)

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/179 "2023-11-28T19:54:39Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Were you stabbed to death in your bath?  
> Did you say, late in life, “I am always learning”?  
> Did you write and illustrate _Don’t Let the Pigeon Drive the Bus_?

Not Jean-Paul Marat  
DQ  
Not Mo Willems - I hope I spelled it right, my now-college-age kids had several of the pigeon and the K’nuffle Bunny books when they were younger

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> 1. Were you a composer with a scatological fetish, who wrote (among symphonies, concertos, and operas) a canon whose title translates to “Lick Me in the Ass”?
> 2. Were you another composer who, despite his name, was not related to one of @Prof.Pepperwinkle’s IQs in post #166?
> 3. Did you have a hit in the 70’s with the song “Midnight in the Oasis”?

Not Mozart  
Not Mendelsonn - hopefully I was looking at the correct post  
Not Maria Muldar (sp?)

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2023/992551/180 "2023-11-28T20:17:53Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > 1. Were you a composer with a scatological fetish, who wrote (among symphonies, concertos, and operas) a canon whose title translates to “Lick Me in the Ass”?
> > 2. Were you another composer who, despite his name, was not related to one of @Prof.Pepperwinkle’s IQs in post #166?
> > 3. Did you have a hit in the 70’s with the song “Midnight in the Oasis”?
> 
> Not Mozart  
> Not Mendelsonn - hopefully I was looking at the correct post  
> Not Maria Muldar (sp?)

Yup. Swept me! (But, at the risk of breaking my arm patting my own back, I thought the Mendel/Mendelssohn question was kinda clever).

IQs:

1. Did you originate both the roles of Peter Pan and Maria Von Trapp on Broadway?

2. Despite your fame as a comedian, comic actor, and writer, is your true passion banjo music?

3. Are you a gender-fluid Canadian actor now, resident in the UK, who wrote and starred in the series _Feel Good_, opposite Charlotte Ritchie and Lisa Kudrow?

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