# Botticelli - November 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 30, 2024, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446 "2024-10-30T12:25:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/281 "2024-11-19T04:47:41Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> IQs: (From Elendil\_s\_Heir)
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> Did your son take something as weregild that he really shouldn’t have?  
> Was your brother the first High King of Numenor?  
> Did your ship become what we know as Venus?

1. Take a DQ
2. I am not… Elrond? Just a WAG
3. Take a DQ

> [@kitap](#):
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> Julie Andrews Edwards (yes, **that** Julie Andrews)

I wasn’t aware she took her husband’s name.  
[/quote]

She did for her books. [Amazon.com: Julie Edwards: books, biography, latest update](https://www.amazon.com/stores/Julie-Edwards/author/B000AQ00QI?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true)

I believe my copy just credits her as Julie Edwards.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/282 "2024-11-19T14:13:23Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Deceased
4. Known for the arts
5. First name begins with E
6. American
7. Died after 1900
8. Died after 1960
9. Not known for performing arts

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/283 "2024-11-20T02:03:00Z")

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DQ: Known for [writing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature)?  
One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/284 "2024-11-20T02:34:37Z")

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DQ:  
Caucasian?

One DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/285 "2024-11-20T02:57:17Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Deceased
4. Known for the arts
5. First name begins with E
6. American
7. Died after 1900
8. Died after 1960
9. Not known for performing arts
10. Known for writing
11. Caucasian

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/286 "2024-11-20T04:48:51Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did your son take something as weregild that he really shouldn’t have? - Elendil, whose son Isildur cut the One Ring off Sauron’s finger (BAD move)  
Was your brother the first High King of Numenor? - Yes, Elrond (Elros was his twin brother)  
Did your ship become what we know as Venus? - Earendil the Mariner (who was also Elrond and Elros’s father)

DQs:

Best known for fiction?  
Won a top award for writing?

IQs:

Did your son Casey become involved in educational toys and puzzles in Vermont?  
Did you write _Spoon River Anthology_?  
Did the same actor who played a bad guy in the _Harry Potter_ movies play you in pre-Civil War New York State?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/287 "2024-11-20T13:01:29Z")

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IQs: Were you a war correspondent …  
(1) … married to Martha Gellhorn?  
(2) … noted for radio broadcasts from London?  
(3) … killed during the battle for Okinawa?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/288 "2024-11-20T14:44:48Z")

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I feel like a blind squirrel. Tolkien has a thing for givinging characters “E” names.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did your son Casey become involved in educational toys and puzzles in Vermont?  
> Did you write _Spoon River Anthology_?  
> Did the same actor who played a bad guy in the _Harry Potter_ movies play you in pre-Civil War New York State?

Take 3 DQs

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQs: Were you a war correspondent …  
> (1) … married to Martha Gellhorn?  
> (2) … noted for radio broadcasts from London?  
> (3) … killed during the battle for Okinawa?

Take 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/289 "2024-11-20T14:53:15Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Deceased
4. Known for the arts
5. First name begins with E
6. American
7. Died after 1900
8. Died after 1960
9. Not known for performing arts
10. Known for writing
11. Caucasian
12. Best known for fiction, although I wrote more books of non-fiction
13. I have won awards, but maybe not as prestigious as you expect

@Elendil_s_Heir, can you be more specific with DQ 13?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/290 "2024-11-20T17:35:10Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> > [@SCAdian](#):
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> > IQs: Were you a war correspondent …  
> > (1) … married to Martha Gellhorn?  
> > (2) … noted for radio broadcasts from London?  
> > (3) … killed during the battle for Okinawa?
> 
> Take 3 DQs

Ernest Hemingway  
Edward R Murrow  
Ernie Pyle

DQ1: Known for genre fiction (mysteries, SF, westerns, &c)?  
DQ2: Known for adult (as opposed to children’s or YA) fiction?  
Two DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/291 "2024-11-20T17:47:22Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> @Elendil_s_Heir, can you be more specific with DQ 13?

I’m not EH, but if I were to ask that DQ I would have in mind not only the Pulitzer, Booker, and National Book Awards, but also the top genre prizes – Hugo (SF), Edgar (mysteries), Newbery (American children’s books), Carnegie (British children’s books), Printz (YA lit), &c.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/292 "2024-11-20T19:41:31Z")

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There are dozens of literary awards out there. I’m not familiar with what my Botticelli has won, suffice to say it is not one of the more recognized prizes.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/293 "2024-11-20T19:46:18Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Deceased
4. Known for the arts
5. First name begins with E
6. American
7. Died after 1900
8. Died after 1960
9. Not known for performing arts
10. Known for writing
11. Caucasian
12. Best known for fiction, although I wrote more books of non-fiction
13. I have won awards, but maybe not as prestigious as you expect
14. Not known for genre fiction, although you could say his work follows a particular theme
15. Known for adult fiction

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/294 "2024-11-20T23:31:44Z")

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DQ:

Died after 2000?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/295 "2024-11-21T00:25:08Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Deceased
4. Known for the arts
5. First name begins with E
6. American
7. Died after 1900
8. Died after 1960
9. Not known for performing arts
10. Known for writing
11. Caucasian
12. Best known for fiction, although I wrote more books of non-fiction
13. I have won awards, but maybe not as prestigious as you expect
14. Not known for genre fiction, although you could say his work follows a particular theme
15. Known for adult fiction
16. Died before 2000

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/296 "2024-11-21T03:00:50Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> There are dozens of literary awards out there. I’m not familiar with what my Botticelli has won, suffice to say it is not one of the more recognized prizes.

Good enough for me, thanks.

Previous IQs:

Did your son Casey become involved in educational toys and puzzles in Vermont? - Edward R. Murrow (my wife used to work for Casey’s small company)  
Did you write _Spoon River Anthology_? - Edgar Lee Masters  
Did the same actor who played a bad guy in the _Harry Potter_ movies play you in pre-Civil War New York State? - Edgar Allen Poe, played by Harry Melling (perhaps still best known as Dudley Dursley) in _The Pale Blue Eye_, set at West Point when Poe was a cadet there

Can’t figure out who this is. I release my DQs to other players, one apiece.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/297 "2024-11-21T16:07:44Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Ernest Hemingway  
> Edward R Murrow  
> Ernie Pyle
> 
> DQ1: Known for genre fiction (mysteries, SF, westerns, &c)?  
> DQ2: Known for adult (as opposed to children’s or YA) fiction?  
> Two DQs reserved.

EH asked about Murrow before I did, so I won’t take that DQ.

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/298 "2024-11-21T20:58:25Z")

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IQ1: Did you write _The Gashleycrumb Tinies_?  
IQ2: Did you write _Im Westen nichts neues_?  
IQ3: Are you better known as George Orwell?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/299 "2024-11-21T22:43:01Z")

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1. I am not Edward Gorey
2. Take a DQ
3. I am not Eric Blair

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/300 "2024-11-21T23:15:52Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write _The Gashleycrumb Tinies_?  
> IQ2: Did you write _Im Westen nichts neues_?  
> IQ3: Are you better known as George Orwell?

> [@knoodler](#):
>
> 1. I am not Edward Gorey
> 2. Take a DQ
> 3. I am not Eric Blair

correct  
Erich Maria Remarque (“Nothing new in the west” → _All Quiet on the Western Front_)  
correct

DQ1: Last name begins with M-Z?  
DQ2: First name begins with Ed?

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