# Botticelli - November 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 30, 2024, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446 "2024-10-30T12:25:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/101 "2024-11-05T15:17:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Was your ship transformed to what we know as Venus?  
> Did you sleep under a red-and-white-checked quilt when you visited Oyster Bay?  
> Did you marry Mr. Knightley, but your hypochondriacal dad still lived with you?

Take 3 DQs

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you write _Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf_?
> 2. Were you sentenced to death for your part in the 1916 Easter Rising, but spared (thanks in part to your American citizenship) and later went on to become the Republic of Ireland’s second Taoiseach and third President?
> 3. Did you say the mass of Englishmen live lives of quiet desperation?

1. I am not Edward Albee
2. Take a DQ
3. Take a DQ

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/102 "2024-11-05T15:39:09Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Did you write the Perry Mason mysteries?
> > 2. Did you write the Charlie Chan mysteries?
> > 3. Are you the pseudonym used by two writers of stories starring yourself?
> 
> 1. I am not Earle Stanley Gardner
> 2. I am not Earle… Van Deering? Earle something…
> 3. Take a DQ

#1 was indeed Erle Stanley Gardner.  
#2 was Earl Derr Biggers, so correct on the first name.  
#3 is Ellery Queen.

DQ: Known for historical fiction?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/103 "2024-11-05T15:51:06Z")

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DQs

1. Real
2. First name starts with “E”
3. Male
4. Surname begins “A” - “M”
5. Deceased
6. Known for the arts
7. Not known for acting
8. Died after 1900
9. Known for literature
10. Known for prose
11. Born before 1950
12. Known for a particular genre
13. US citizen
14. Not known for sf/fantasy
15. Not known for mystery/horror
16. Died before 1980
17. Greatest fame after 1950
18. Not known for historical fiction

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/104 "2024-11-05T15:58:56Z")

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DQ: First name starts with “E.” - “Ek”?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/105 "2024-11-05T16:49:49Z")

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DQs

1. Real
2. First name starts with “E”
3. Male
4. Surname begins “A” - “M”
5. Deceased
6. Known for the arts
7. Not known for acting
8. Died after 1900
9. Known for literature
10. Known for prose
11. Born before 1950
12. Known for a particular genre
13. US citizen
14. Not known for sf/fantasy
15. Not known for mystery/horror
16. Died before 1980
17. Greatest fame after 1950
18. Not known for historical fiction
19. First name starts with “Ek” - “Ez”

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/106 "2024-11-05T16:55:05Z")

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No more IQs, please.

Get your DQs in by 12 pm tomorrow (PST).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/107 "2024-11-05T18:36:13Z")

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Previous IQs:

Was your ship transformed [into] what we know as Venus? - Earendil the Mariner, in the works of J.R.R. Tolkien; [NASA used a different spelling for something else](https://www.nasa.gov/universe/webb-reveals-colors-of-earendel-most-distant-star-ever-detected/)  
Did you sleep under a red-and-white-checked quilt when you visited Oyster Bay? - Eleanor Roosevelt; our guide at T.R.'s home pointed it out  
Did you marry Mr. Knightley, but your hypochondriacal dad still lived with you? - The title character in Jane Austen’s _Emma_

DQs:

Died before 2000?  
Won a top writing award?

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/108 "2024-11-05T18:51:02Z")

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DQs

1. Real
2. First name starts with “E”
3. Male
4. Surname begins “A” - “M”
5. Deceased
6. Known for the arts
7. Not known for acting
8. Died after 1900
9. Known for literature
10. Known for prose
11. Born before 1950
12. Known for a particular genre
13. US citizen
14. Not known for sf/fantasy
15. Not known for mystery/horror
16. Died before 1980
17. Greatest fame after 1950
18. Not known for historical fiction
19. First name starts with “Ek” - “Ez”
20. Died before 2000
21. Has won writing awards, although probably did not win a top award (like Newberry or Caldecott)

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/109 "2024-11-05T18:54:56Z")

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DQs

1. Real
2. First name starts with “E”
3. Male
4. Surname begins “A” - “M”
5. Deceased
6. Known for the arts
7. Not known for acting
8. Died after 1900
9. Known for literature
10. Known for prose
11. Born before 1950
12. Known for a particular genre
13. US citizen
14. Not known for sf/fantasy
15. Not known for mystery/horror
16. Died before 1980
17. Greatest fame after 1950
18. Not known for historical fiction
19. First name starts with “Ek” - “Ez”
20. Died before 2000
21. Has won writing _prizes_, although probably did not win a top award (like Newberry or Caldecott)

Clarifying last DQ

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/110 "2024-11-05T19:02:02Z")

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I didn’t see the “Died before 1980” answer. 😑

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/111 "2024-11-05T19:10:59Z")

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Last DQ: Writes children’s or young adult books?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/112 "2024-11-05T19:49:08Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> I didn’t see the “Died before 1980” answer. 😑

It happens to all of us.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/113 "2024-11-06T00:53:38Z")

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DQs

1. Real
2. First name starts with “E”
3. Male
4. Surname begins “A” - “M”
5. Deceased
6. Known for the arts
7. Not known for acting
8. Died after 1900
9. Known for literature
10. Known for prose
11. Born before 1950
12. Known for a particular genre
13. US citizen
14. Not known for sf/fantasy
15. Not known for mystery/horror
16. Died before 1980
17. Greatest fame after 1950
18. Not known for historical fiction
19. First name starts with “Ek” - “Ez”
20. Died before 2000
21. Has won writing _prizes_, although probably did not win a top award (like Newberry or Caldecott)
22. Not known for writing children’s or young adult books

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/114 "2024-11-06T01:34:02Z")

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> [@knoodler](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did you write _Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf_?
> > 2. Were you sentenced to death for your part in the 1916 Easter Rising, but spared (thanks in part to your American citizenship) and later went on to become the Republic of Ireland’s second Taoiseach and third President?
> > 3. Did you say the mass of Englishmen live lives of quiet desperation?
> 
> 1. I am not Edward Albee
> 2. Take a DQ
> 3. Take a DQ

Correct on 1. 2. was Éamon de Valera. 3. was T.S. Eliot, in “The Wasteland”.

Last DQs:

1. Known for nonfiction?
2. Born after 1900?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/115 "2024-11-06T03:16:28Z")

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DQs

1. Real
2. First name starts with “E”
3. Male
4. Surname begins “A” - “M”
5. Deceased
6. Known for the arts
7. Not known for acting
8. Died after 1900
9. Known for literature
10. Known for prose
11. Born before 1950
12. Known for a particular genre
13. US citizen
14. Not known for sf/fantasy
15. Not known for mystery/horror
16. Died before 1980
17. Greatest fame after 1950
18. Not known for historical fiction
19. First name starts with “Ek” - “Ez”
20. Died before 2000
21. Has won writing _prizes_, although probably did not win a top award (like Newberry or Caldecott)
22. Not known for writing children’s or young adult books
23. Known for non-fiction
24. Born after 1900

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/116 "2024-11-06T18:09:37Z")

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There’s still time before I reveal the answer. Get your DQs in!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/117 "2024-11-07T01:34:03Z")

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Final FirstName LastName DQ: Are you Eldridge Cleaver?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/118 "2024-11-07T03:14:29Z")

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I yield my final reserved DQ to whoever would like to ask it.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/119 "2024-11-07T14:05:14Z")

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I am not Eldridge Cleaver.

I am… **Euell Gibbons!** Self-taught writer, health food advocate and outdoorsman, best remembered for asking the rhetorical question, [“Ever eat a pine tree?”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0N290zPrbA)

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2024/1009446/120 "2024-11-07T15:01:15Z")

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Ah, that’s a good one! Though I haven’t read him, I do remember the name mostly from some cartoons in _Mad_ magazine, and a truly horrible pun in one of the early Callahan’s stories.

I think you get to go again, **knoodler**!

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