# Botticelli- November 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 1, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476 "2025-11-01T13:31:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 8

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/141 "2025-11-25T00:01:48Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Was your catchphrase, “Well, I’ll be a dirty bird.”?
> 2. Did you play Snow White on _Once Upon A Time?_
> 3. Were you a British historian best known for your biographies of Winston Churchill?

Three DQs

> [@SunUp](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you Harry James’ wife?
> 2. Were you Wayne Campbell’s cable-access-show sidekick?
> 3. Were you the title character of a John Irving book (later adapted into a movie)?

Three DQs

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/142 "2025-11-25T00:11:50Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> > [@SunUp](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Were you Harry James’ wife?
> > 2. Were you Wayne Campbell’s cable-access-show sidekick?
> > 3. Were you the title character of a John Irving book (later adapted into a movie)?
> 
> Three DQs

Betty Grable, Garth Algar, and T.S. Garp

DQs:

Born before 1960?  
Best known for music?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/143 "2025-11-25T16:02:35Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Was your catchphrase, “Well, I’ll be a dirty bird.”?
> > 2. Did you play Snow White on _Once Upon A Time?_
> > 3. Were you a British historian best known for your biographies of Winston Churchill?
> 
> Three DQs

#1 was George Gobel.  
#2 is Ginnifer Goodwin.  
#3 was Martin Gilbert.

3 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/144 "2025-11-25T20:55:37Z")

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Previous IQs:

Are you and your wife entombed in Lake View Cemetery? - [James A. Garfield](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Garfield_Memorial)  
Did your wife, with your support, decline to meet with Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson? - John Glenn, husband of Annie, in _The Right Stuff_  
Did Tom Hanks play your son in one of your last movies? - Jackie Gleason, in _Nothing in Common_

Three DQs reserved.

IQs:

Were you AKA Tharkun and Mithrandir?  
Were you AKA Sauron and Annatar?  
Were you married to the guy with the silliest alternative name in all of Middle-earth?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/145 "2025-11-25T23:21:10Z")

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_ **G** _

1. Real  
2. Last name starts with G  
3. Male  
4. Living  
5. Known for the arts  
6. American  
7. Not born after 1975  
8. Caucasian  
9. Best known for the performing arts  
10. Have not won a top arts award in my field  
11. Born before 1960  
12. Not best known for music?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/146 "2025-11-26T00:49:34Z")

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DQ  
Known for acting?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/147 "2025-11-26T00:55:31Z")

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_ **G** _

1. Real  
2. Last name starts with G  
3. Male  
4. Living  
5. Known for the arts  
6. American  
7. Not born after 1975  
8. Caucasian  
9. Best known for the performing arts  
10. Have not won a top arts award in my field  
11. Born before 1960  
12. Not best known for music  
13. Known for acting

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/148 "2025-11-26T01:42:43Z")

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DQs

1. Known for movies?
2. Best known for one role?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/149 "2025-11-26T05:00:40Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Were you AKA Tharkun and Mithrandir?  
> Were you AKA Sauron and Annatar?  
> Were you married to the guy with the silliest alternative name in all of Middle-earth?

Ahem.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/150 "2025-11-26T13:18:55Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Ahem.

Oops.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Were you AKA Tharkun and Mithrandir?  
> Were you AKA Sauron and Annatar?  
> Were you married to the guy with the silliest alternative name in all of Middle-earth?

Not Gandalf  
DQ  
Not Galadriel

_ **G** _

1. Real
2. Last name starts with G
3. Male
4. Living
5. Known for the arts
6. American
7. Not born after 1975
8. Caucasian
9. Best known for the performing arts
10. Have not won a top arts award in my field
11. Born before 1960
12. Not best known for music
13. Known for acting
14. Known for movies
15. Not known for one role

For clarification, DQ5 is “known for”, not “best known for”, and DQ9 is “best known _as an artist_ for”, in reference to DQ5. There may well be people out there whose first thought, on hearing my name, is about my previous profession.

Enough unasked DQs out there to put us over 20, so no more, please.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/151 "2025-11-26T13:42:26Z")

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By my count, knoodler and kitap have two remaining DQs each; EH and SunUp each have one.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/152 "2025-11-26T16:51:00Z")

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I actually have three previous DQs, reserved in post 144.

Previous IQs:

Were you AKA Tharkun and Mithrandir? - Yes, Gandalf  
Were you AKA Sauron and Annatar? - Gorthaur  
Were you married to the guy with the silliest alternative name in all of Middle-earth? - Yes, Galadriel, hitched to Celeborn AKA Teleporno

DQs:

Considered handsome?  
Best known for dramatic roles?  
Greatest fame before 2000?

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/153 "2025-11-26T18:26:50Z")

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ZDS  
By my count, EH has four remaning DQs, knoodler and kitap have two each, and SunUp has one.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Considered handsome?  
> Best known for dramatic roles?  
> Greatest fame before 2000?

_ **G** _

1. Real
2. Last name starts with G
3. Male
4. Living
5. Known for the arts
6. American
7. Not born after 1975
8. Caucasian
9. Best known for the performing arts
10. Have not won a top arts award in my field
11. Born before 1960
12. Not best known for music
13. Known for acting
14. Known for movies
15. Not known for one role
16. Probably considered handsome
17. Best known for dramatic roles
18. Greatest fame before 2000

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/154 "2025-11-26T19:31:22Z")

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With my three DQs asked in post 152, I believe I have just a single remaining DQ.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/155 "2025-11-26T19:33:26Z")

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Yes. You had four, you used three, now you have one.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/156 "2025-11-26T19:43:33Z")

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Last DQ: First name starts with A-M?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/157 "2025-11-26T21:05:14Z")

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I don’t believe I have any; you got Gil and Grant.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/158 "2025-11-27T01:17:43Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
>
> I don’t believe I have any; you got Gil and Grant.

You’re right – apparently I was even more out of it last night than I thought. ☹

_ **G** _

1. Real
2. Last name starts with G
3. Male
4. Living
5. Known for the arts
6. American
7. Not born after 1975
8. Caucasian
9. Best known for the performing arts
10. Have not won a top arts award in my field
11. Born before 1960
12. Not best known for music
13. Known for acting
14. Known for movies
15. Not known for one role
16. Probably considered handsome
17. Best known for dramatic roles
18. Greatest fame before 2000
19. First name starts with A-M

EH has two DQs left; knoodler has one. Please ask them by 10 ~~pm tomorrow, 27 Nov.~~ am EST Friday, 28 Nov.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/159 "2025-11-27T19:25:26Z")

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I have 2 DQs:

Born before 1950?  
Best known for leading roles?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-november-2025/1024476/160 "2025-11-27T21:39:36Z")

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_ **G** _

1. Real
2. Last name starts with G
3. Male
4. Living
5. Known for the arts
6. American
7. Not born after 1975
8. Caucasian
9. Best known for the performing arts
10. Have not won a top arts award in my field
11. Born before 1960
12. Not best known for music
13. Known for acting
14. Known for movies
15. Not known for one role
16. Probably considered handsome
17. Best known for dramatic roles
18. Greatest fame before 2000
19. First name starts with A-M
20. Born before 1950
21. Not best known for leading roles, though I did have a lead role in one film

Waiting for EH to ask his final earned DQ…

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