# Botticelli October 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 3, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437 "2011-10-03T15:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/201 "2011-10-19T14:01:03Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Are you the first black man to win the American League MVP award? > > Is your painting “The Barque of Dante” hanging in the Louvre? > > Do people turn into large horned animals in your best known work? I’m gonna guess Edvard Munch for the second; dunno about the first and third. > [@AppallingGael](#): > > If Wilhuff Tarkin was Darth Vader’s gray-haired chief lieutenant, I would have guessed him, if I knew his name, had I earned a guess. You might wanna take a look at the link I provided when I gave the answer. > [@AppallingGael](#): > > …IQ: Were you dropped from the “Mrs. Robinson” lyrics in favor of Mrs. Robinson? > > IQ: Suffrage-wise, were you considered the real brains to Susan B. Anthony’s face? > > IQ: Are you a poet who shares a surname with a Reuben award winner? Dunno about the first and third, again. For the second, Elizabeth Cady Stanton? E. 1. Female 2. Real person 3. American 4. Not born in the 20th C. 5. First name starts with “E” 6. Known for artistic achievement, of a sort 7. Not born in the 19th C. 8. Not a writer/poet/playwright ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/202 "2011-10-19T14:43:23Z")
IQ: Did you and your best friend go and kill Humbaba, even though you thought it was a bad idea? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/203 "2011-10-19T14:46:46Z")
1. Elston Howard, catcher of the Yankees, won the MVP award in 1963, making him the first black AL MVP. 2. Romantic icon Eugene Delacroix painted “The Barque of Dante” 3. Eugene Ionesco wrote the play “Rhinoceros,” in which nearly everyone in the world turns into a rhino. DQ1: Born in the 18th century? DQ2: Married to someone as famous as (or more famous than) yourself? DQ3: Were you an actress, singer or stage performer of some other kind? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/204 "2011-10-19T14:49:04Z")
Did you compose the soundtracks of both \*\*\*National Lampoon’s Animal House \*\*\*and _ **The Magnificent Seven?** _ Did a play (not a musical) based on your most famous novel run for nearly 8 years on Broadway? Did you write “The New Colossus,” which nobody has read but every American can quote 2 lines from? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/205 "2011-10-19T17:05:02Z")
IQ: Were you a scribe who forced the dissolution of many interfaith marriages? IQ: Were you a “talented amateur” in a catsuit? ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/206 "2011-10-19T17:37:01Z")
IQ: Were you a catcher who was considered the slowest man ever to play big-league baseball? IQ: Were you an automobile designer “brought back to life” in a series of commercials? IQ: Were you famous for a routine which supposedly involved Kenyan musicians? ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/207 "2011-10-19T18:52:07Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno about the first and third, again. For the second, Elizabeth Cady Stanton? Paul Simon originally had written “here’s to you, Mrs. Roosevelt”, in honor of Eleanor before adapting the song for “The Graduate”. Mell Lazarus, author of “Momma” and “Miss Peach of the Kelly School” is no known relation to Emma the poet. DQ: Was your fame earned during or pre- the American Revolution (ooh, I think I know)? I’ll wait on the second in case my hunch is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/208 "2011-10-19T20:40:30Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ: Did you and your best friend go and kill Humbaba, even though you thought it was a bad idea? No idea whatsoever. Baffled. Take a DQ. > [@astorian](#): > > Did you compose the soundtracks of both \*\*\*National Lampoon’s Animal House \*\*\*and _ **The Magnificent Seven?** _ > > Did a play (not a musical) based on your most famous novel run for nearly 8 years on Broadway? > > Did you write “The New Colossus,” which nobody has read but every American can quote 2 lines from? No, I’m not Elmer Bernstein, T.S. Eliot or Emma Lazarus. > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ: Were you a scribe who forced the dissolution of many interfaith marriages? > > IQ: Were you a “talented amateur” in a catsuit? No, I’m not… Eleazar, or Elizabeth Montgomery, respectively? > [@Sternvogel](#): > > IQ: Were you a catcher who was considered the slowest man ever to play big-league baseball? > > IQ: Were you an automobile designer “brought back to life” in a series of commercials? > > IQ: Were you famous for a routine which supposedly involved Kenyan musicians? Dunno about the first and third, but no, I’m not Hayley Earle. Two DQs. E. 1. Female 2. Real person 3. American 4. Not born in the 20th C. 5. First name starts with “E” 6. Known for artistic achievement, of a sort 7. Not born in the 19th C. 8. Not a writer/poet/playwright 9. Born in the 18th C. 10. Not married to someone as famous as (or more famous than) me 11. Not an actress, singer or stage performer of any kind 12. Fame earned during or pre-American Revolution ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/209 "2011-10-19T21:27:22Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ: Were you a scribe who forced the dissolution of many interfaith marriages? > > IQ: Were you a “talented amateur” in a catsuit? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > No, I’m not… Eleazar, or Elizabeth Montgomery, respectively? You are not the biblical scribe Ezra, nor are you Emma Peel of _The Avengers_, who was introduced in each week’s pre-credit sequence as the “talented amateur” assistant of “top professional” John Steed. I think I know who AppallingGael is thinking of, and I think he (she?)'s got it figured out, so I’ll save my DQs just in case he’s wrong. ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/210 "2011-10-19T21:43:21Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > I think I know who AppallingGael is thinking of, and I think he (she?)'s got it figured out, so I’ll save my DQs just in case he’s wrong. He. It’s a play on “Pauline Kael” that I created for my one and only IMDB movie review, recycled for this place simply to keep my various internet ID’s somewhat managable. Here goes, then…Are you a famous vexillographer whose name was shared by a recent Lieutenant Governor of New York? ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/211 "2011-10-20T00:34:53Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > IQ: Were you a catcher who was considered the slowest man ever to play big-league baseball? > > IQ: Were you an automobile designer “brought back to life” in a series of commercials? > > IQ: Were you famous for a routine which supposedly involved Kenyan musicians? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno about the first and third, but no, I’m not Hayley Earle. Two DQs. Actually, the designer’s name was Harley Earl. But since I suspect we’ve found out the mystery person’s identity, I’ll jusrt say that the first question refers to Ernie Lombardi, who supposedly never legged out an infield hit despite hitting .306 for his career and being named an All-Star eight times. The “Kenyan musicians” were the Nairobi Trio, who appeared several times on the TV show hosted by Ernie Kovacs. Saving DQ’s just in case **AppallingGael** doesn’t have this round all sewn up. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/212 "2011-10-20T01:43:19Z")
> [@AppallingGael](#): > > …Here goes, then…Are you a famous vexillographer whose name was shared by a recent Lieutenant Governor of New York? **Yes, I am Elizabeth “Betsy” Ross!** > **[Betsy Ross](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_Ross)** > > Elizabeth Griscom Ross (née Griscom; January 1, 1752 – January 30, 1836), also known by her second and third married names, Ashburn and Claypoole, was an American upholsterer who was credited by her relatives in 1870 with making the second official U.S. flag, accordingly known as the Betsy Ross flag. Though most historians dismiss the story, Ross family tradition holds that General George Washington, commander-in-chief of the Continental Army and two members of a congressiona Ross made flags ... Good job! ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/213 "2011-10-20T03:19:11Z")
Congratulations, **AppallingGael**! You stitched it up neatly! Just to clean up - > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Le Ministre de l’au-delà** > IQ: Did you and your best friend go and kill Humbaba, even though you thought it was a bad idea? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > No idea whatsoever. Baffled. Take a DQ. Yet another Assyrian reference. In ‘The Epic of Gilgamesh’, Gilgamesh talks **Enkidu** into taking on Humbaba, the powerful being who protects the great cedar forest. ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/214 "2011-10-20T06:14:17Z")
Thanks. I might have also alluded to Elisabeth Kubler-Ross in the DQ though perhaps she never went by “Betsy”. I went and counted how many times each letter has been used since the revival of this game in May, with these results: A-2 B-3 D-1 E-1 F-1 G-2 H-1 I-1 J-3 K-1 L-2 M-3 R-2 S-3 T-1 W-1 I’ll go with what seems to be the among the most fertile of the untapped: C. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/215 "2011-10-20T12:59:48Z")
IQ: Did Joseph Cotten play your character’s best friend? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/216 "2011-10-20T13:36:35Z")
IQ: At the end of a spectacular career as an actor in both TV and film, did George Wendt star in the only film (made for TV) that you ever directed? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/217 "2011-10-20T13:49:51Z")
Congrats, Gael! Just to clear up one last thing… I asked for a play (not a musical) that ran on BRoadway for 8 years. The answer was “Tobacco Road,” based on a novel by Erskine Caldwell. IQ1: Were you the first Time Magazine Man of the Year? IQ2: Did you turn to a career in baseball partly because it was so difficult and expensive to obtain equipment for left-handed dentists? IQ3: Did John Cleese play a fictional character with your REAL name in a popular movie? ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/218 "2011-10-20T16:13:55Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQ: Did Joseph Cotten play your character’s best friend? I am not Charles Foster Kane (confused–if you are looking for the name of an actor, I guess I don’t know). ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/219 "2011-10-20T16:15:39Z")
IQ: Did you have the dubious honor of appearing nude in Playboy and Penthouse simultaneously? IQ: Are you Springfield’s slack-jawed yokel? IQ: Are you a vandal that described yourself as “a bulldog running at the feet of Jesus, barking at what He doesn’t like”? ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/220 "2011-10-20T16:22:21Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ: At the end of a spectacular career as an actor in both TV and film, did George Wendt star in the only film (made for TV) that you ever directed? I’m not Art Carney? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437.md?page=12)