# Botticelli October 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 3, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437 "2011-10-03T15:23:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/221 "2011-10-20T16:27:07Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you the first Time Magazine Man of the Year?  
> IQ2: Did you turn to a career in baseball partly because it was so difficult and expensive to obtain equipment for left-handed dentists?  
> IQ3: Did John Cleese play a fictional character with your REAL name in a popular movie?

I’m not Charles Lindbergh or…Steve Carlton? Cleese…I don’t guess it’s Jesus Christ, but I guess I do guess that because I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/222 "2011-10-20T17:00:57Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> I am not Charles Foster Kane (confused–if you are looking for the name of an actor, I guess I don’t know).

No, you’re right.

IQ: Were you Nelson’s right-hand man at Trafalgar?

IQ: Were you quite physical in your objection to alcohol consumption?

IQ: Were you the top U.S. diplomat in London during the Civil War?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/223 "2011-10-20T17:06:36Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Did you have the dubious honor of appearing nude in Playboy and Penthouse simultaneously?
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> IQ: Are you Springfield’s slack-jawed yokel?
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> IQ: Are you a vandal that described yourself as “a bulldog running at the feet of Jesus, barking at what He doesn’t like”?

I am not Carmen Electra?

Rusty on the Simpsons…I’ll try, I’m not Curtis.

Savonarola doesn’t begin with a C, so I don’t have a guess for that.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/224 "2011-10-20T17:09:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Were you Nelson’s right-hand man at Trafalgar?
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> IQ: Were you quite physical in your objection to alcohol consumption?
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> IQ: Were you the top U.S. diplomat in London during the Civil War?

I am not Carry Nation or Charles Francis Adams. I remember “kiss me, Hardy”, but that doesn’t begin with a C either, so take a DQ for Trafalgar.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/225 "2011-10-20T17:41:43Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Did you have the dubious honor of appearing nude in Playboy and Penthouse simultaneously?
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> IQ: Are you Springfield’s slack-jawed yokel?
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> IQ: Are you a vandal that described yourself as “a bulldog running at the feet of Jesus, barking at what He doesn’t like”?

> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> I am not Carmen Electra?
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> Rusty on the Simpsons…I’ll try, I’m not Curtis.
> 
> Savonarola doesn’t begin with a C, so I don’t have a guess for that.

You are not Madonna Ciccone, best known by her first name only. (I like Elendil’s trick of using a less common name to obfuscate - seriously, who knew Grand Moff Tarkin even had a first name?)  
As for the Simpson’s question, very close - it’s Cletus.

My last IQ was Carry Nation, but since you got another Carry Nation IQ, I’ll won’t take a DQ for her.

The usual openers:

DQ1: Real?  
DQ2: Male?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/226 "2011-10-20T18:07:32Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> DQ1: Real?  
> DQ2: Male?

Yes and yes.

1. Real
2. Male

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/227 "2011-10-20T18:11:36Z")

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Left-handed Charles Dillion “Casey” Stengel went to dental school, but chose to play baseball instead.

Cary Grant’s real name was Archie Leach, which was the name of John Cleese’s bumbling barrister in _ **A Fish Called Wanda.** _

DQ: American?

DQ2: Last name start with “C”?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/228 "2011-10-20T18:19:30Z")

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Before becoming a popular blues/rock singer and guitarist, were ou a member of Otis Day & the _ **Knights in National Lampoon’s Animal House?** _  
Did you write a Top Ten hit song about a date with Cat Stevens, and later sell it for a ketchup commercial?  
Are you regarded as the father of Italian unification and therefore of modern Italy?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/229 "2011-10-20T18:40:22Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ: American?
> 
> DQ2: Last name start with “C”?

Not American, and please, call me by my first name.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not American
4. First name begins with “C”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/230 "2011-10-20T19:12:01Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> I am not Carry Nation or Charles Francis Adams. I remember “kiss me, Hardy”, but that doesn’t begin with a C either, so take a DQ for Trafalgar.

Adm. Cuthbert Collingwood. Hardy was Nelson’s flag lieutenant, I believe.

DQ: Living?

And…

IQ: Did you save up a lot of socks for your new wife to darn after you got married?

IQ: Is your husband a famous actor who can fly his own helicopter?

IQ: Did you once say you wouldn’t mind being your mistress’s tampon?

The yokel’s full name on _The Simpsons_ is Cletus Spuckler, for the record.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/231 "2011-10-20T19:12:25Z")

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IQ: Were you originally known as Krekor Ohanian?

IQ: Are you an actor whose name was the same as that of a wide receiver for the Cleveland Browns?

IQ: Are you often cited as the quintessential TV character who was written out of a sitcom after other members of the cast quickly overshadowed you?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/232 "2011-10-20T21:38:07Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Before becoming a popular blues/rock singer and guitarist, were ou a member of Otis Day & the _ **Knights in National Lampoon’s Animal House?** _  
> Did you write a Top Ten hit song about a date with Cat Stevens, and later sell it for a ketchup commercial?  
> Are you regarded as the father of Italian unification and therefore of modern Italy?

I am not Carly Simon. Is the Blues guy a “Cooker”? I’m afraid I can’t name the Italian.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/233 "2011-10-20T21:41:41Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQ: Living?
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> And…
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> IQ: Did you save up a lot of socks for your new wife to darn after you got married?
> 
> IQ: Is your husband a famous actor who can fly his own helicopter?
> 
> IQ: Did you once say you wouldn’t mind being your mistress’s tampon?

I am not Prince Charles. I’m afraid to make an educated guess at the first one. I don’t know who the actor is.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not American
4. First name begins with “C”
5. Dead

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/234 "2011-10-20T21:45:08Z")

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Correct on Carly “Anticipation” Simon

Count Camilio Cavour is the Father of Modern Italy

Bluesman Robert “Smoking Gun” Cray (who lived in Eugene, Oregon when “Animal House” was filmed there) was the lead guitarist of Otis Day & the Knights.  
DQ1: European?

DQ: Born in the 20th century?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/235 "2011-10-20T21:49:51Z")

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Have you won BOTH the Emmy Award for Best Leading Actor in a Drama Series AND the Emmy Award as Best Leading Actor in a Comedy Series?  
Are you a journalist whose mother replaced your father in the House of Representatives?  
Is your real last name Mickelwhite?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/236 "2011-10-20T22:15:24Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> IQ: Were you originally known as Krekor Ohanian?
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> IQ: Are you an actor whose name was the same as that of a wide receiver for the Cleveland Browns?
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> IQ: Are you often cited as the quintessential TV character who was written out of a sitcom after other members of the cast quickly overshadowed you?

Krekor Ohanian…I feel I should be looking for Craig the swarthy actor with the bland Englishy surname…but nothing is coming. Daniel Craig; best I can do.

I am not coming up with the actor/receiver.

I am not Chuck Cunningham.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/237 "2011-10-20T22:17:14Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ1: European?
> 
> DQ: Born in the 20th century?

Yes and no.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not American
4. First name begins with “C”
5. Dead
6. European
7. Not born in the 20th century.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/238 "2011-10-20T22:25:03Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Have you won BOTH the Emmy Award for Best Leading Actor in a Drama Series AND the Emmy Award as Best Leading Actor in a Comedy Series?  
> Are you a journalist whose mother replaced your father in the House of Representatives?  
> Is your real last name Mickelwhite?

I am not Michael Caine or…Anderson Cooper? or…Bill Cosby?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/239 "2011-10-20T23:00:11Z")

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IQ: Are you the most famous resident of the city of R’lyeh?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/240 "2011-10-21T01:58:07Z")

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Maurice Mickelwhite was Michael Caine- well done.

But the journalist whose parents were both in Congress is Cokie Roberts (her Dad was Hale Boggs, and her Mom was Lindy Boggs; both represented Louisiana in the House).  
And the actor who won the Emmy for both lead role in a comedy and lead role in a drama was… Carroll O’Connor, for _ **All in the Family** _ and _ **In the Heat of the Night.** _  
DQ1: Are you from a country that speaks a Romance language?

DQ2: Were you born between 1700-1900?

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