# Botticelli October 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 3, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437 "2011-10-03T15:23:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 13

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/241 "2011-10-21T02:45:18Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: At the end of a spectacular career as an actor in both TV and film, did George Wendt star in the only film (made for TV) that you ever directed?

> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> I’m not Art Carney?

No, it was **John Candy** , best known for his work with SCTV, his leading roles in films such as ‘Uncle Buck’ and ‘Planes, Trains and Automobiles’ and his unforgettable small roles such as the polka musician in ‘Home Alone’. ‘Hostage for a Day’ was his directorial debut, but he died before it was broadcast.

DQ: Are you known for your work in the arts, broadly defined so as to include visual arts, literature, music and theatre arts?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/242 "2011-10-21T03:14:51Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Did you save up a lot of socks for your new wife to darn after you got married?
> 
> IQ: Is your husband a famous actor who can fly his own helicopter?
> 
> IQ: Did you once say you wouldn’t mind being your mistress’s tampon?

The first is Calvin Coolidge. The second is Calista Flockhart, formerly of _Ally McBeal_, whose husband is Harrison Ford. Correct that the third is Prince Charles, notoriously recorded in a private cellphone conversation with the future Duchess of Cornwall.

I’ll reserve my two DQs for now.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/243 "2011-10-21T04:02:23Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Are you the most famous resident of the city of R’lyeh?

“R’lyeh” doesn’t sound very Italian, but I have nothing else, so…I am not George Clooney.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/244 "2011-10-21T04:04:55Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> And the actor who won the Emmy for both lead role in a comedy and lead role in a drama was… Carroll O’Connor, for _ **All in the Family** _ and _ **In the Heat of the Night.** _  
> DQ1: Are you from a country that speaks a Romance language?
> 
> DQ2: Were you born between 1700-1900?

Too bad; I had begun to type “Carroll O"Connor” when Cosby occurred to me.

No and no.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not American
4. First name begins with “C”
5. Dead
6. European
7. Not born in the 20th century
8. Not from a Romance-language country
9. Not born between 1700-1900

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/245 "2011-10-21T04:06:05Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> DQ: Are you known for your work in the arts, broadly defined so as to include visual arts, literature, music and theatre arts?

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not American
4. First name begins with “C”
5. Dead
6. European
7. Not born in the 20th century
8. Not from a Romance-language country
9. Not born between 1700-1900
10. Not known as any kind of artist

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/246 "2011-10-21T04:29:47Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Are you the most famous resident of the city of R’lyeh?

> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> “R’lyeh” doesn’t sound very Italian, but I have nothing else, so…I am not George Clooney.

You are not H.P. Lovecraft’s best known creation Cthulhu, said to be trapped in the underwater city of R’lyeh.

DQ: Were you born before the time of Christ/Before the Common Era (B.C./B.C.E)?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/247 "2011-10-21T04:33:38Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> You are not H.P. Lovecraft’s best known creation Cthulhu, said to be trapped in the underwater city of R’lyeh.
> 
> DQ: Were you born before the time of Christ/Before the Common Era (B.C./B.C.E)?

Aha, I actually did think of that, but I didn’t think Cthulhu was a living thing (I have not read Lovecraft). A few hours ago and I might have guessed there was yet another way to spell Qhadophie.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not American
4. First name begins with “C”
5. Dead
6. European
7. Not born in the 20th century
8. Not from a Romance-language country
9. Not born between 1700-1900
10. Not known as any kind of artist
11. Born in the BC era

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/248 "2011-10-21T04:40:28Z")

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Was your Dad the lead singer of the soul group The Main Ingredient?  
Did Arthur Conley, Cat Stevens, Herman’s Hermits and the Spinners all have top 40 hits with cover versions of songs you wrote?  
Is it widely believed, though there’s no evidence, that you were the first US President born in Canada?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/249 "2011-10-21T06:43:26Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Was your Dad the lead singer of the soul group The Main Ingredient?  
> Did Arthur Conley, Cat Stevens, Herman’s Hermits and the Spinners all have top 40 hits with cover versions of songs you wrote?  
> Is it widely believed, though there’s no evidence, that you were the first US President born in Canada?

Soul Dad, Herman Cain?

Top 40 guy; Chuck Berry?

I personally believe Calvin Coolidge was born in Canada, though I have no evidence.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/250 "2011-10-21T10:57:17Z")

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IQ: Are you the title character in a screenplay by Gore Vidal?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/251 "2011-10-21T11:01:20Z")

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1. Cuba Gooding Sr. (father of actor Cuba Gooding Jr.) was lead singer of the Main Ingredient, best remembered for “Everybody Plays the Fool.”

2. Herman’s Hermits scored a hit with Sam Cooke’s “Wonderful World,” Cat Stevens with “Another Saturday Night,” the Spinners with “Cupid.” And Arthur Conley’s “Sweet Soul Music” was just a revamped version of Sam Cooke’s “Yeah Man.”

3. Chester Alan Arthur’s official birthplace was Fairfield, Vermont, but his political opponents (and latter-day trivia buffs) have long insisted he was really born in Canada.

DQ1: Were you known for political or military accomplishments?

DQ2: Were you known as a scientist or intellectual?

DQ3: Were you Greek?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/252 "2011-10-21T14:33:35Z")

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1. Did you create a cologne called “The Beach”?
2. Did you play on both Sam & Dave’s hit “Soul Man” AND the hit remake by the Blues Brothers?
3. Did you adopt your first name after joining the Air Force, since your parents had only named you “J.R.”?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/253 "2011-10-21T16:41:44Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Are you the title character in a screenplay by Gore Vidal?

No, and I don’t know who this is (The Best Man?). Ask a DQ.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not American
4. First name begins with “C”
5. Dead
6. European
7. Not born in the 20th century
8. Not from a Romance-language country
9. Not born between 1700-1900
10. Not known as any kind of artist
11. Born in the BC era

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/254 "2011-10-21T16:43:21Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ1: Were you known for political or military accomplishments?
> 
> DQ2: Were you known as a scientist or intellectual?
> 
> DQ3: Were you Greek?

Yes, no and no.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not American
4. First name begins with “C”
5. Dead
6. European
7. Not born in the 20th century
8. Not from a Romance-language country
9. Not born between 1700-1900
10. Not known as any kind of artist
11. Born in the BC era
12. Known for political or military deeds
13. Not a scientist or intellectual
14. Not Greek

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/255 "2011-10-21T16:46:06Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> 1. Did you create a cologne called “The Beach”?
> 2. Did you play on both Sam & Dave’s hit “Soul Man” AND the hit remake by the Blues Brothers?
> 3. Did you adopt your first name after joining the Air Force, since your parents had only named you “J.R.”?

No, I am not Calvin Klein?

The other two, no guess and I am not John Glenn(?), respectively.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/256 "2011-10-21T16:51:43Z")

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OK, my two earned DQs are:

Roman?  
Royalty or aristocracy?

Then:

IQ: Were you a Roman emperor who allegedly made his horse a consul of the Empire?

IQ: Did you figure out a cheap way to extract aluminum and then go on to found ALCOA?

IQ: Were you a Fifties Bostonian doctor to be reckoned with?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/257 "2011-10-21T17:19:51Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: Were you a Roman emperor who allegedly made his horse a consul of the Empire?
> 
> IQ: Did you figure out a cheap way to extract aluminum and then go on to found ALCOA?
> 
> IQ: Were you a Fifties Bostonian doctor to be reckoned with?

I am not Caligula.

I am not Carnegie?

I am not Ben Casey?

1. Real
2. Male
3. Not American
4. First name begins with “C”
5. Dead
6. European
7. Not born in the 20th century
8. Not from a Romance-language country
9. Not born between 1700-1900
10. Not known as any kind of artist
11. Born in the BC era
12. Known for political or military deeds
13. Not a scientist or intellectual
14. Not Greek
15. Not Roman
16. A royal or an aristocrat

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/258 "2011-10-21T17:20:54Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by \*\*Le Ministre de l’au-delà \*\*  
> IQ: Are you the title character in a screenplay by Gore Vidal?

> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> No, and I don’t know who this is (The Best Man?). Ask a DQ.

Gore Vidal wrote the screenplay to Bob Guccione’s **Caligula**.

DQ: Are you Asian?

IQ: Did your enemy consult the oracle of Delphi, to be told that if he attacked you, a great empire would be destroyed? (It didn’t work out the way he thought…)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/259 "2011-10-21T17:23:57Z")

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“The Beach” was a cologne concocted by Cosmo Kramer on “Seinfeld”

Guitarist Steve Cropper played on both versions of “Soul Man” (on both records, the singer yells, “Play it, Steve!”).

Mr & Mrs Cash named their son “J.R.” When he enlisted in the Air Force, they told him he needed a first name, not just initials. So he chose the name Johnny.  
DQ1: Did you regard the Romans as an enemy?

DQ2: Were you a prominent general or warrior?

DQ3: Have you every been the subject of a Hollywood movie?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/260 "2011-10-21T17:46:44Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Gore Vidal wrote the screenplay to Bob Guccione’s **Caligula**.
> 
> DQ: Are you Asian?
> 
> IQ: Did your enemy consult the oracle of Delphi, to be told that if he attacked you, a great empire would be destroyed? (It didn’t work out the way he thought…)

Oh right, Caligula. I am not Asian. Will update list of knowns in the next post.

I am not Cyrus the Great.

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