# Botticelli October 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 3, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437 "2011-10-03T15:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/41 "2011-10-05T15:15:08Z")
IQ: Have you always worn the number 68 for all of your hockey teams, in honour of Prague Spring? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/42 "2011-10-05T15:26:29Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > I was thinking of Jesse Owens, the track and field phenom in the 1939 Olympics, that showed Hitler that black men aren’t inferior to the Aryans. Thorpe is a correct answer to your question, even if it’s not the person you were thinking of, so you don’t get a DQ. (And it was the 1936 Olympics). > [@astorian](#): > > Were you a former Yankee outfielder who won an MVP award while playing for the Red Sox? > > Was your picture right next to Janis Joplin’s in your senior high school yearbook at Port Arthur, Texas? > > Were you the first prominent NHL goalie to wear a mask every night? Dunno about any of these. Three DQs. > [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ: Have you always worn the number 68 for all of your hockey teams, in honour of Prague Spring? Yeesh, dunno this one either. Take a DQ. J. 1. Male 2. Real person 3. First name starts with “J” 4. Born in 20th century 5. Not known for achievements in the broadly defined “arts” 6. Not a political figure 7. American 8. Dead 9. Not known for work in science and/or technology 10. Not a religious figure 11. Not known mainly for military career 12. Noted for athletic accomplishments 13. Involved in a sport played with a ball ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/43 "2011-10-05T15:34:26Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Thorpe is a correct answer to your question, even if it’s not the person you were thinking of, so you don’t get a DQ. (And it was the 1936 Olympics). Thanks, I wasn’t quite sure how the rules work. 1936 - :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/44 "2011-10-05T15:41:59Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > IQ: Although your first and middle names are Christian Adolph, are you more familiarly known by a nickname? The nickname by which Mr. Jurgensen was known when he played quarterback was Sonny. DQ: Was your sport football? IQ: Was your sister known as Gypsy Rose Lee? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/45 "2011-10-05T16:16:08Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > …IQ: Was your sister known as Gypsy Rose Lee? Stumped me again. DQ. J. 1. Male 2. Real person 3. First name starts with “J” 4. Born in 20th century 5. Not known for achievements in the broadly defined “arts” 6. Not a political figure 7. American 8. Dead 9. Not known for work in science and/or technology 10. Not a religious figure 11. Not known mainly for military career 12. Noted for athletic accomplishments 13. Involved in a sport played with a ball 14. Not football ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/46 "2011-10-05T17:20:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Le Ministre de l’au-delà** > IQ: Have you always worn the number 68 for all of your hockey teams, in honour of Prague Spring? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Yeesh, dunno this one either. Take a DQ. Now, in fairness, there are lots of other impressive stats that would identify this particular player. He’s one of the few people who holds a Triple Gold, in that he has won a Stanley Cup, World Championship and an Olympic Gold medal. This particular bit of trivia sticks in my mind because TSN, a Canadian sports channel, made so much of it one year in an attempt to, well, I don’t know what they were trying to do - encourage Canadians to watch more hockey? Is that even possible? Anyway, **Jaromír Jágr** was the player I meant. (Jaromir is also an anagram of Mario Jr, which was something he got called a lot in his years with the Pittsburgh Penguins.) DQ: Has your sport ever been a part of the Summer Olympic games, even if only as a demonstration sport? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/47 "2011-10-05T18:08:48Z")
_Were you a former Yankee outfielder who won an MVP award while playing for the Red Sox?_ **This was Jackie Jensen.** _Was your picture right next to Janis Joplin’s in your senior high school yearbook at Port Arthur, Texas?_ **This was Dallas Cowboys/Miami Hurricanes coach Jimmy Johnson** _Were you the first prominent NHL goalie to wear a mask every night?_ **This was Jacques Plante.** DQ1: Were you black? DQ2: Were you best known for baseball? DQ3: Were you a coach or manager at any point? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/48 "2011-10-05T18:28:59Z")
Did you play yourself in a movie based on your autobiography? Did you leave pro football at the peak of your career to pursue acting? Did you win basketball championships both at Ohio State and with the Boston Celtics? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/49 "2011-10-05T20:10:25Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Did you play yourself in a movie based on your autobiography? > > Did you leave pro football at the peak of your career to pursue acting? > > Did you win basketball championships both at Ohio State and with the Boston Celtics? Hmm. Dunno about any of those three. Ask two DQs to finish the game. J. 1. Male 2. Real person 3. First name starts with “J” 4. Born in 20th century 5. Not known for achievements in the broadly defined “arts” 6. Not a political figure 7. American 8. Dead 9. Not known for work in science and/or technology 10. Not a religious figure 11. Not known mainly for military career 12. Noted for athletic accomplishments 13. Involved in a sport played with a ball 14. Not football 15. Sport has been a part of the Summer Olympic games, even if only as a demonstration sport 16. Not black 17. Best known for baseball 18. Never a coach or manager, as far as I know ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/50 "2011-10-05T20:23:56Z")
_Did you play yourself in a movie based on your autobiography?_ **This was Jackie Robinson** _Did you leave pro football at the peak of your career to pursue acting?_ **This was Jim Brown** _Did you win basketball championships both at Ohio State and with the Boston Celtics?_ **This was John Havlicek** DQ1: Are you in the Baseball Hall of Fame? DQ2: Were you a pitcher? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/51 "2011-10-05T20:26:05Z")
Did Paul Simon ever wonder about your whereabouts? Did you hit 500+ homers for the Red Sox and the Philadelphia Athletics? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/52 "2011-10-05T20:35:30Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ: Are you an atheist who became a preacher in order to lead people to socialism through religion? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Hmm. I should know that. Ask a DQ. You are not Jim Jones, founder of the People’s Temple, best known for the Jonestown mass murder-suicide which inspiredthe phrase “drink the Kool-Aid” despite that facts that (a) the beverage was Flavor-Aid and (b) Jones did not drink the Flavor-Aid himself, but died from a gunshot to the head. This one moved fast yesterday. On preview, it looks like we’re already up to 20 DQs. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/53 "2011-10-06T02:06:39Z")
Right you are. J. 1. Male 2. Real person 3. First name starts with “J” 4. Born in 20th century 5. Not known for achievements in the broadly defined “arts” 6. Not a political figure 7. American 8. Dead 9. Not known for work in science and/or technology 10. Not a religious figure 11. Not known mainly for military career 12. Noted for athletic accomplishments 13. Involved in a sport played with a ball 14. Not football 15. Sport has been a part of the Summer Olympic games, even if only as a demonstration sport 16. Not black 17. Best known for baseball 18. Never a coach or manager, as far as I know 19. In the Baseball Hall of Fame 20. Pitcher OK, everyone who earned a DQ in this round may now each ask a single “Are you [first and last name]?” question. If no one gets it by 10pm EST Friday, I’ll post the answer and start the next round. ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/54 "2011-10-06T04:24:25Z")
IQ: Are you Jim “Catfish” Hunter? (or was that a DQ. Or something else) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/55 "2011-10-06T04:38:16Z")
I’m almost certain that Gael is right- there just aren’t any other “J” pitchers in the Hall of Fame who are dead and were born in the 20th century. Sigh… at least I’ll take some small credit for narrowing it down for you. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/56 "2011-10-06T13:05:59Z")
> [@AppallingGael](#): > > IQ: Are you Jim “Catfish” Hunter? > > (or was that a DQ. Or something else) That would be an endgame DQ. And no, I’m not him. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/57 "2011-10-06T13:48:30Z")
Okay, now I’m confused… Jim Bunning, Jim Palmer and Juan Marichal are still alive. Jack Chesbro and Iron Man Joe McGInity were born in the 19th century. … Wait, are you Jay Hanna “Dizzy” Dean? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/58 "2011-10-06T13:58:48Z")
No, I don’t even have a guess - if it isn’t a current or former member of the Toronto Blue Jays, it’s pretty hit and miss for me to remember them - Hall of Fame or not. I’d like to apologize to the group for the rather lame DQ about the Olympics - that didn’t advance the cause very much at all… ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/59 "2011-10-06T20:29:23Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > IQ: Was your sister known as Gypsy Rose Lee? The family name was Hovick. While Rose (actually Louise) made a clean break with the surname, sister June opted to change it to Havoc, and became an actress of some renown. Just in case it’s not Dean, my DQ: Are you Jesse Haines? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437/60 "2011-10-07T16:17:08Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Okay, now I’m confused… Jim Bunning, Jim Palmer and Juan Marichal are still alive. Jack Chesbro and Iron Man Joe McGInity were born in the 19th century. .. > > Wait, are you Jay Hanna “Dizzy” Dean? I am indeed! > **[Dizzy Dean](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dizzy_Dean)** > > Jay Hanna "Dizzy" Dean (January 16, 1910 – July 17, 1974), also known as Jerome Herman Dean (both the 1910 and the 1920 Censuses show his name as "Jay"), was an American professional baseball pitcher. During his Major League Baseball (MLB) career, he played for the St. Louis Cardinals, Chicago Cubs, and St. Louis Browns. > A brash and colorful personality, Dean is the last National League (NL) pitcher to win 30 games in one season (1934). After his playing career, Dean became a popular televisio... Well done, **astorian**. Did you really know his first name off the top of your head? Start the next round, if you please. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2011/598437.md?page=4)