# Botticelli - October 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 5, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411 "2013-10-05T01:50:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/281 "2013-10-25T16:27:37Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> I was going for Dewey of Dewey Decimal System fame, but on later reflection I suspect the relationship that prompted my IQ was more a function of my local library than the system itself, so I’ll not take the DQ.

From my days as a library assistant I can assure you, everyone who’s ever worked with Dewey has noticed the apparent connection between computer information and otherworldly information. It was caused by the fact that Dewey invented his system before computers and, as a new subject, it had to go somewhere. A number of waggish librarians have suggested it’s location was suggested by one of the earliest computers: the Magic 8-Ball.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/282 "2013-10-25T16:29:53Z")

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IQ: Were you a union organiser who at one point represented workers making rolling stock?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/283 "2013-10-25T22:33:21Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you an early American automobile builder?  
> IQ2: Were you his brother and partner?  
> IQ3: Were you one of the original X-Men?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Will Durant, not the other Mr. Durant, not… Dreadnought?

Had to look that one up - it seems there was a Billy Durant making cars in the 1920s and '30s, but no mention of a brother. I was looking for Charles and Frank Duryea, builders of the first successful gas-powered car in America.  
Bobby Drake, known as Iceman, was one of the five original X-Men.  
DQ: Businessman?  
Other DQs reserved.  
IQ1: Did you go for a late-night ride in April of 1775?  
IQ2: Are you Lily’s sister and Vernon’s wife?  
IQ3: Did the Colour-Sergeant and Files-on-Parade discuss your imminent death?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/284 "2013-10-26T03:54:35Z")

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> [@The Severed Head of Prof. P](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the first white child born in North America (at least by some accounts)?
> 2. Are you an actress who’s gone back to using her birth name of Kappelhoff?
> 3. Are you the Halloween-themed superhero name of Boston Brand?

Not Virginia Dare, dunno, and dunno.

> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did you participate in the “Long Count Bout”?

Ooo, I should know this, but I’m blanking. Take a DQ.

> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Were you a union organiser who at one point represented workers making rolling stock?

Dunno this either.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you go for a late-night ride in April of 1775?  
> IQ2: Are you Lily’s sister and Vernon’s wife?  
> IQ3: Did the Colour-Sergeant and Files-on-Parade discuss your imminent death?

Not Dawes or Mrs. Dursley; dunno the third.

D.

1. dead
2. male
3. real
4. American
5. not a political or military figure
6. last name started with D
7. died before 1970
8. not in the Arts as we know them here
9. born east of the Mississippi River
10. died before 1900
11. not a scientist
12. not a businessman

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/285 "2013-10-26T04:54:00Z")

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Jack Dempsey

DQ: Born North of the Mason-Dixon Line?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/286 "2013-10-26T10:30:00Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Were you a union organiser who at one point represented workers making rolling stock?

Eugene Debs, about whom I learned through Railroad Tycoon II.

DQ: Were you born after 1800?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/287 "2013-10-26T13:43:37Z")

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> [@The Severed Head of Prof. P](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the first white child born in North America (at least by some accounts)?
> 2. Are you an actress who’s gone back to using her birth name of Kappelhoff?
> 3. Are you the Halloween-themed superhero name of Boston Brand?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Virginia Dare, dunno, and dunno.

#2 is Doris Day, #3 is Deadman.

Saving the DQs for the moment.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/288 "2013-10-26T21:22:29Z")

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D.

1. dead
2. male
3. real
4. American
5. not a political or military figure
6. last name started with D
7. died before 1970
8. not in the Arts as we know them here
9. born east of the Mississippi River
10. died before 1900
11. not a scientist
12. not a businessman
13. born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
14. born before 1800

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/289 "2013-10-26T21:37:15Z")

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IQ: Were you a Secretary of War who later became your nation’s only President?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/290 "2013-10-26T22:07:24Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you go for a late-night ride in April of 1775?  
> IQ2: Are you Lily’s sister and Vernon’s wife?  
> IQ3: Did the Colour-Sergeant and Files-on-Parade discuss your imminent death?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Dawes or Mrs. Dursley; dunno the third.

Correct on William Dawes (I was really hoping he was the answer) and Petunia Dursley.  
Danny Deever, from the Kipling poem.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/291 "2013-10-27T00:00:00Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Were you a Secretary of War who later became your nation’s only President?

Not Jefferson Davis, although the Lincoln Administration has asked me to make it clear that my answer in no way implies that I recognize the legal status of the Confederacy as a “nation.”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/292 "2013-10-27T12:57:30Z")

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DQ: Criminal?

I’ll save the other for now.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/293 "2013-10-27T13:05:30Z")

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IQ1: Were you advised, in a song, to hang down your head and cry?  
IQ2: Were you the basis for that song?  
IQ3: Were you husband and first cousin of your queen?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/294 "2013-10-28T03:40:11Z")

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IQ: Did your treatmeant of the sick in Hawaii earn you cannonization?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/295 "2013-10-28T14:41:43Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you advised, in a song, to hang down your head and cry?  
> IQ2: Were you the basis for that song?  
> IQ3: Were you husband and first cousin of your queen?

Ooo, I should know the first two, but can’t come up with 'em. Take three DQs.

> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did your treatmeant of the sick in Hawaii earn you cannonization?

Not Father Damien (who would probably prefer canonization to cannonization).

D.

1. dead
2. male
3. real
4. American
5. not a political or military figure
6. last name started with D
7. died before 1970
8. not in the Arts as we know them here
9. born east of the Mississippi River
10. died before 1900
11. not a scientist
12. not a businessman
13. born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
14. born before 1800
15. not a criminal

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/296 "2013-10-28T15:21:23Z")

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DQ: Explorer/Frontiersman/Tracker?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/297 "2013-10-28T17:52:53Z")

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D.

1. dead
2. male
3. real
4. American
5. not a political or military figure
6. last name started with D
7. died before 1970
8. not in the Arts as we know them here
9. born east of the Mississippi River
10. died before 1900
11. not a scientist
12. not a businessman
13. born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
14. born before 1800
15. not a criminal
16. explorer/frontiersman/tracker, kind of

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/298 "2013-10-28T18:11:39Z")

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But not Davy Crockett or Dan’l Boone. Hmmm…

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/299 "2013-10-28T18:40:25Z")

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IQ: Was a major Texas city named in your honor?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/300 "2013-10-28T19:18:52Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Was a major Texas city named in your honor?

Not Whatsisname Dallas.

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