# Botticelli - October 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 5, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411 "2013-10-05T01:50:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/301 "2013-10-28T22:11:59Z")

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George M. 😃

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/302 "2013-10-28T22:25:11Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you advised, in a song, to hang down your head and cry?  
> IQ2: Were you the basis for that song?  
> IQ3: Were you husband and first cousin of your queen?

> [@Elendil's Scabrous Hair](#):
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> Ooo, I should know the first two, but can’t come up with 'em. Take three DQs.

Tom Dooley.  
Tom Dula.  
Darnley, husband and cousin of Mary Queen of Scots.  
Hmmmm…

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/303 "2013-10-29T00:00:11Z")

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There’s a name that I’m thinking of, that seems very appropriate, but I don’t know the full name, only the family name.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/304 "2013-10-29T00:11:04Z")

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In my opinion, it couldn’t hurt to try.

IQs:

1. Do you have three nephews whose names rhyme?
2. Could you talk to the animals?
3. Was all you wanted was a room somewhere far away from the cold night air, and one enormous chair?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/305 "2013-10-29T04:04:49Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> There’s a name that I’m thinking of, that seems very appropriate, but I don’t know the full name, only the family name.

Just ask an IQ that addresses the family name, then, even if you don’t know a first name.

> [@The Severed Head of Prof. P](#):
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> …IQs:
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> 1. Do you have three nephews whose names rhyme?
> 2. Could you talk to the animals?
> 3. Was all you wanted was a room somewhere far away from the cold night air, and one enormous chair?

Not Donald Duck.  
Not Dr. Doolittle.  
Dunno the third.

D.

1. dead
2. male
3. real
4. American
5. not a political or military figure
6. last name started with D
7. died before 1970
8. not in the Arts as we know them here
9. born east of the Mississippi River
10. died before 1900
11. not a scientist
12. not a businessman
13. born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
14. born before 1800
15. not a criminal
16. explorer/frontiersman/tracker, kind of

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/306 "2013-10-29T10:06:45Z")

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IQ: Is there a pass in the mountains between California and Nevada that bears the name of your ill-fated party?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/307 "2013-10-29T11:54:42Z")

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> [@The Severed Head of Prof. P](#):
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> In my opinion, it couldn’t hurt to try.
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> IQs:
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> 1. Do you have three nephews whose names rhyme?
> 2. Could you talk to the animals?
> 3. Was all you wanted was a room somewhere far away from the cold night air, and one enormous chair?

[quote=“Elendil’s Scabrous Hair, post:305, topic:670411”]

Just ask an IQ that addresses the family name, then, even if you don’t know a first name.  
Not Donald Duck.  
Not Dr. Doolittle.  
Dunno the third.

Eliza Doolittle from _My Fair Lady_ asks the musical question _Wouldn’t It Be Loverly?_. I’ll wait on the DQ until I can think of something worth asking.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/308 "2013-10-29T14:42:00Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Is there a pass in the mountains between California and Nevada that bears the name of your ill-fated party?

Ding ding ding! We have a winnah! Yes, I am

George Donner

> **[Donner Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Donner)**
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> The Donner Party, sometimes called the Donner–Reed Party, were a group of American pioneers who migrated to California in a wagon train from the Midwest. Delayed by a multitude of mishaps, they spent the winter of 1846–1847 snowbound in the Sierra Nevada. Some of the migrants resorted to cannibalism to survive, mainly eating the bodies of those who had succumbed to starvation, sickness, or extreme cold, but in one case two Native American guides were murdered and eaten.
> The Donner Party orig...

Way to go, **fanganga**!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/309 "2013-10-29T14:43:01Z")

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Well done, fanganga! While I know the name, I’d never have thought of him.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/310 "2013-10-29T14:57:07Z")

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The letters we’ve used so far: [Botticelli - the letters we've used so far - Thread Games - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=648663). If you’re feeling brave, **fanganga** , Q, X, Y and Z are certainly due for another go.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/311 "2013-10-29T15:33:51Z")

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Thank you. Maybe these letters are for someone braver than I am. I’ve got my own pattern, and my initial is **B**.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/312 "2013-10-29T15:40:10Z")

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IQs:

1. Though British born, did Nancy Reagan call you “America’s most honored citizen”?
2. Did you portray the Goblin King among a passel of puppets?
3. Do you portray Sherlock Holmes on TV?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/313 "2013-10-29T15:42:39Z")

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IQ; Did you lend your name to this game?  
IQ2: Are you the wife of a unpopular POTUS?  
IQ3: Are you considered the godfather of Texas Hold 'Em?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/314 "2013-10-29T17:07:23Z")

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> [@The Severed Head of Prof. P](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Though British born, did Nancy Reagan call you “America’s most honored citizen”?
> 2. Did you portray the Goblin King among a passel of puppets?
> 3. Do you portray Sherlock Holmes on TV?

1: I don’t know to whom you refer  
2: I am not David Bowie.  
3: I am not Benedict Cumberbatch.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/315 "2013-10-29T17:08:26Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ; Did you lend your name to this game?  
> IQ2: Are you the wife of a unpopular POTUS?  
> IQ3: Are you considered the godfather of Texas Hold 'Em?

1: I am not Sandro Botticelli. 😃  
2: I am not Laura Bush.  
3: I don’t know to whom you refer.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/316 "2013-10-29T17:09:03Z")

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> [@The Severed Head of Prof. P](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Though British born, did Nancy Reagan call you “America’s most honored citizen”?
> 2. Did you portray the Goblin King among a passel of puppets?
> 3. Do you portray Sherlock Holmes on TV?

> [@fanganga](#):
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> 1: I don’t know to whom you refer  
> 2: I am not David Bowie.  
> 3: I am not Benedict Cumberbatch.

#1 was Bob Hope. Correct on the other two.

DQ: Real?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/317 "2013-10-29T17:11:13Z")

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My intial letter is **B** and:

DQ1: I am real.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/318 "2013-10-29T17:27:55Z")

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The 3rd was Doyle Brunson

DQ: American?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/319 "2013-10-29T17:28:48Z")

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My intial letter is B and:

DQ1: I am real.  
DQ2: I am American.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/320 "2013-10-29T17:31:22Z")

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IQ: Were you an Indiana Senator who retired, disgusted with the partisanship in Washington?

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