# Botticelli - October 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 5, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411 "2013-10-05T01:50:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/381 "2013-11-01T15:28:20Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did Flip Wilson play you in drag?
> 2. Were you frequently surrounded with Pips?
> 3. Did you fire one of your most popular singers on the air?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Not Geraldine.  
> Not Gladys Knight.  
> DQ.
> 
> DQ.

Right on Geraldine and Gladys.  
Arthur Godfrey famously fired Julius LaRosa on the air, which led to people thinking maybe he wasn’t as nice as he appeared, and his ratings suffered.

DQ: American?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/382 "2013-11-01T15:38:58Z")

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Previous IQs:

Was your best-known battle at Guilford Court House? - Yes, Nathanael Green  
Were you a head of state indirectly related to an early nautical ally of the U.S.? - Giscard d’Estaing, President of France in the 1970s, was related to Admiral the Comte d’Estaing, who helped out in the American Revolution during the Yorktown campaign.  
Did you do early production artwork for a film version of _Dune_ that never got off the, er, sand? - H.R. Giger, best known for designing the critter in _Alien_.

DQs:

Last name start with G?  
Political/military?

IQs:

Did a new library, dedicated to the study of you and the preservation of your records, just open?  
Did _Doonesbury_ spoof your wooing of the Reagans?  
Was the relationship between you and your boss likened by one observer to that of an abusive spouse and his victim?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/383 "2013-11-01T16:37:25Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the mate to a seagull named Heathcliff?
2. Were you the Evil Emperor (now deposed) in the _Fables_ comics line?
3. Did you pal around with Enkidu?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/384 "2013-11-01T16:39:30Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Are you a major dance figure I’ve asked about in previous rounds?

Not … George Balanchine?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did a new library, dedicated to the study of you and the preservation of your records, just open?  
> Did _Doonesbury_ spoof your wooing of the Reagans?  
> Was the relationship between you and your boss likened by one observer to that of an abusive spouse and his victim?

Not … George W Bush?  
Not … George H W Bush?  
DQ.  
G

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Died after 1900
5. Not American
6. Last name starts with G
7. Political/military

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/385 "2013-11-01T17:04:42Z")

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Yup, Balanchine (I asked about him when the answer was Mel Blanc)

IQ: Are you a major Greek political figure, with 2 terms as PM?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/386 "2013-11-01T17:37:46Z")

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DQ: Did you hold elected office?

IQ1: Is there a biscuit named after you?  
IQ2: Were you the leader of the Free French?  
IQ3: Did you have a distinctive birthmark on your head?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/387 "2013-11-01T21:01:39Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the mate to a seagull named Heathcliff?
> 2. Were you the Evil Emperor (now deposed) in the _Fables_ comics line?
> 3. Did you pal around with Enkidu?

Not Gertrude. (Damn, I loved that show!)  
DQ.  
Not Gilgamesh.

> [@etv78](#):
>
> IQ: Are you a major Greek political figure, with 2 terms as PM?

The only Greek politician that comes to mind is Papandreou, and I have no idea what his first name is/was, so take a DQ.

> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Is there a biscuit named after you?  
> IQ2: Were you the leader of the Free French?  
> IQ3: Did you have a distinctive birthmark on your head?

Not Giuseppe Garibaldi.  
Not Charles de Gaulle.  
DQ.  
G

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Died after 1900
5. Not American
6. Last name starts with G
7. Political/military
8. Did not hold elected office

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/388 "2013-11-01T21:16:48Z")

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It was Giorges (or something close)

DQ: European?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/389 "2013-11-01T21:28:01Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> DQ: Did you hold elected office?
> 
> IQ1: Is there a biscuit named after you?  
> IQ2: Were you the leader of the Free French?  
> IQ3: Did you have a distinctive birthmark on your head?

1: As you said, Guiseppe Garibaldi  
2: As you said, Charles de Gaulle  
3: Then you are not Mikhail Gorbachev

IQ1: Did a coward shoot you and only kill a man?  
IQ2: Did you invade the Falkland Islands?  
IQ3: Are you credited for claiming people will more readily believe a big lie than a small one?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/390 "2013-11-01T23:46:38Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the mate to a seagull named Heathcliff?
> 2. Were you the Evil Emperor (now deposed) in the _Fables_ comics line?
> 3. Did you pal around with Enkidu?

[quote=“SCAdian, post:387, topic:670411”]

Not Gertrude. (Damn, I loved that show!)  
DQ.  
Not Gilgamesh.  
/QUOTE]

#2 is Geppetto. [Pinocchio has giant wooden soldier brothers.]

DQ: Died after 1970?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/391 "2013-11-02T03:47:57Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did a new library, dedicated to the study of you and the preservation of your records, just open? - I’ll rephrase.  
Did _Doonesbury_ spoof your wooing of the Reagans? - That was George Will.  
Was the relationship between you and your boss likened by one observer to that of an abusive spouse and his victim? - George Stephanopoulous and Bill Clinton, early in Clinton’s first term, when GS was often on the receiving end of the President’s temper.

DQs:

Best known for WWII service?  
Army officer (as opposed to navy, air force, marines, etc.)?

IQs:

Did a new library, dedicated to the study of you and the preservation of your records, just open outside of Texas?  
Were you a European expert on armored warfare?  
Were you a trusted friend to a young spy?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/392 "2013-11-02T12:14:20Z")

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G

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Died after 1900
5. Not American
6. Last name starts with G
7. Political/military
8. Did not hold elected office
9. European
10. Did not die after 1970
11. Best known for WWII service
12. Army officer

> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Did a coward shoot you and only kill a man?  
> IQ2: Did you invade the Falkland Islands?  
> IQ3: Are you credited for claiming people will more readily believe a big lie than a small one?

No idea. But no DQs, either, because…

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did a new library, dedicated to the study of you and the preservation of your records, just open outside of Texas?  
> Were you a European expert on armored warfare?  
> Were you a trusted friend to a young spy?

No idea on #1 or #3 either, but yes, I am  
**Generaloberst Heinz Wilhelm Guderian**.

I knew that was going to be too easy as soon as EH asked DQ7…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/393 "2013-11-02T12:47:00Z")

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Wow. Good job, EH! I don’t remember this guy at all.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/394 "2013-11-02T13:00:36Z")

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Congratulations, EH. I’m going to have to look this guy up in the interim when I’m allowed to look stuff up. Mine were :

> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Did a coward shoot you and only kill a man?  
> IQ2: Did you invade the Falkland Islands?  
> IQ3: Are you credited for claiming people will more readily believe a big lie than a small one?

1: Ernesto “Che” Guevara, whose last words were reportedly “Shoot, coward. You are only going to kill a man.”  
2: General Galiteri of Argentina  
3: I was thinking of Joseph Goebells.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/395 "2013-11-02T15:53:54Z")

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Woohoo! Thanks, **SCAdian**. Good one.

For those who were wondering: [Heinz Guderian - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Guderian)

My previous IQs:

Did a new library, dedicated to the study of you and the preservation of your records, just open outside of Texas? - George Washington; his national library opened Sept. 27 in Mount Vernon, Va.: [The George Washington Presidential Library at Mount Vernon&nbsp;·&nbsp;George Washington's Mount Vernon](http://www.mountvernon.org/library)  
Were you a trusted friend to a young spy? - Ol’ Golly in the kids’ book _Harriet the Spy_.

Next letter (since we’ve done it so seldom):

Q.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/396 "2013-11-02T17:46:09Z")

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IQ: Did you lend your name to pointless pursuits?  
IQ2: Did you betray your Nordic homeland to the Nazis?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/397 "2013-11-02T17:46:44Z")

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IQ1: Are you a godlike being encountered in outer space?  
IQ2: Have you been played by Desmond Llewellen and John Cleese?  
IQ3: Did Dana Scully name her dog after you?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/398 "2013-11-02T17:55:36Z")

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IQ: Are you an orange video game character from the 80s?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/399 "2013-11-02T17:56:55Z")

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\*\*fan-\*\*which one did I steal? 😉

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/400 "2013-11-02T18:01:59Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
>
> \*\*fan-\*\*which one did I steal? 😉

My original number 3 clashed with your number 2

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