# Botticelli - October 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 5, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411 "2013-10-05T01:50:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/461 "2013-11-06T02:45:47Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you the Martian Manhunter?
> 2. Were you the man who sounded the charge that led us safe to the rear?
> 3. Did you walk through certain half-deserted streets when the evening was spread out against the sky like a patient etherized upon a table?

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Not J’onn J’onzz.  
> DQ.  
> DQ.
> 
> Mighty interesting simile you have there…

#2 was Jubilation T. Cornpone, from the musical _Li’l Abner_.  
#3 was J. Alfred Prufrock, from T. S. Eliot’s poem _The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock_.

DQs:

1. Alive?
2. In the Arts as we know and love them?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/462 "2013-11-06T03:20:28Z")

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J

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with J
4. American
5. Dead
6. Not in the Arts as we know and love them

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/463 "2013-11-06T03:38:45Z")

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Thanks for the Clampett correction.

Previous IQs:

Are you the most famous resident of an Ecuadorian embassy? - Julian Assange, in London.  
Did your assistants, after a tragedy, make a late-night library visit? - Jackie Kennedy’s staff went to the Library of Congress on the night of Nov. 22, 1963, to research the Lincoln funeral observances.  
Did Mark Twain hate your writing style? - Correct as to James Fenimore Cooper.

DQs:

Died since 1900?  
Political/military?

IQs:

Did JFK say he particularly enjoyed your memos?  
Was your last film role as a foul-mouthed but doting mom?  
Did your loss of an appendage but not your life trigger a military conflict?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/464 "2013-11-06T03:54:14Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did JFK say he particularly enjoyed your memos?  
> Was your last film role as a foul-mouthed but doting mom?  
> Did your loss of an appendage but not your life trigger a military conflict?

DQ.  
DQ.  
Not a one-eared man named Jenkins.

J

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with J
4. American
5. Dead
6. Not in the Arts as we know and love them
7. Died since 1900
8. Political/military connections, but not actually a political/military figure

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/465 "2013-11-06T06:37:27Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Not Johnny B Goode.  
> DQ.  
> Not Jack Klugman.

Correct on Johnny B. Goode and Jack Klugman.

The man who said “We was robbed,” was boxing manager Joe Jacobs. He managed Max Schmeling.

DQ: Known for work in the sciences?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/466 "2013-11-06T12:07:45Z")

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J

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with J
4. American
5. Dead
6. Not in the Arts as we know and love them
7. Died since 1900
8. Political/military connections, but not actually a political/military figure
9. Not known for work in the sciences

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/467 "2013-11-06T12:14:28Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
>
> Congratulations, SCAdian
> 
> IQ1: Did you unwittingly marry your child?  
> IQ2: Did an act of mercy from an unexpected quarter lead you to commit suicide?  
> IQ3: Did you assault Rochester Castle?

Correct on Queen Jocasta and Inspector Javert. Number 3 was King John.

IQ1: Is a kind of knife named after you/  
IQ2: Did you have authority over an investigatory body and a reputation for transvestism?  
IQ3: Is your name a byword for wealth?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/468 "2013-11-06T12:38:02Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Is a kind of knife named after you/  
> IQ2: Did you have authority over an investigatory body and a reputation for transvestism?  
> IQ3: Is your name a byword for wealth?

Not Jim Bowie.  
Not J Edgar Hoover.  
Not John Paul Getty.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/469 "2013-11-06T12:41:28Z")

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Correct on 1 and 2. 3 wasn’t whom I was thinking of but fits, so I’ll rephrase:

IQ: Is your family name a byword for extreme wealth and shared with a Republican politician with a reputation for being to the left of the Republican mainstream?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/470 "2013-11-06T12:51:25Z")

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And, since I have a DQ left over from King John:

DQ: Are you known as a businessman?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/471 "2013-11-06T12:55:44Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you known as The Great Profile?
2. Did you front the Blackhearts?
3. Did you create Holden Caulfield?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/472 "2013-11-06T15:39:16Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did JFK say he particularly enjoyed your memos? - Economist John Kenneth Galbraith, who served as his ambassador to India.  
Was your last film role as a foul-mouthed but doting mom? - Jill Clayburgh, in _Bridesmaids_.  
Did your loss of an appendage but not your life trigger a military conflict? - Yes, the cause (don’t even know his first name) of the War of Jenkins’s Ear.

DQs:

Died since 1950?  
Born north of the Mason-Dixon Line?

IQs:

Are you an evil young king?  
Are you secretly the father of that evil young king?  
Are you perhaps the most hated alien sidekick evah?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/473 "2013-11-06T19:45:05Z")

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Those were:

1)Jarah Mariano  
2)Jason Segal  
3)Josh Radnor

DQ1)Died after 1950  
DQ2)Born East of the Misssissippi  
DQ3)Born North of the Mason-Dixon Line

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/474 "2013-11-06T20:52:15Z")

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IQ2: Are you a union organiser whose ultimate fate is an enduring mystery?  
IQ3: Are you a notorious American bank robber?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/475 "2013-11-06T21:11:13Z")

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IQ: Are you from the “Small Town” of Seymour, Indiana?  
IQ2: Did you write a song recounting 40 years of 20th C. history?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/476 "2013-11-06T23:09:38Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Is your family name a byword for extreme wealth and shared with a Republican politician with a reputation for being to the left of the Republican mainstream?

Not … John D Rockefeller?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you known as The Great Profile?
> 2. Did you front the Blackhearts?
> 3. Did you create Holden Caulfield?

DQ.  
Not Joan Jett.  
Not … John Steinbeck?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Are you an evil young king?  
> Are you secretly the father of that evil young king?  
> Are you perhaps the most hated alien sidekick evah?

DQ.  
DQ. (_Game of Thrones_ references, perhaps?)  
Not Jar Jar Binks.

> [@fanganga](#):
>
> IQ2: Are you a union organiser whose ultimate fate is an enduring mystery?  
> IQ3: Are you a notorious American bank robber?

Not Jimmy Hoffa.  
Neither Jesse nor Frank James.

> [@etv78](#):
>
> IQ: Are you from the “Small Town” of Seymour, Indiana?  
> IQ2: Did you write a song recounting 40 years of 20th C. history?

Two DQs.

**J**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with J
4. American
5. Dead
6. Not in the Arts as we know and love them
7. Died since 1900
8. Political/military connections, but not actually a political/military figure
9. Not known for work in the sciences
10. Not known as a businessman
11. Did not die since 1950
12. Not born north of the Mason-Dixon Line
13. Born east of the Mississippi  
(Note: Not born in the continental US)

**etv78** : Two of your DQs had already been asked by Elendil’s Heir; ask again.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/477 "2013-11-06T23:30:48Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
>
> IQ: Is your family name a byword for extreme wealth and shared with a Republican politician with a reputation for being to the left of the Republican mainstream?  
> IQ2: Are you a union organiser whose ultimate fate is an enduring mystery?  
> IQ3: Are you a notorious American bank robber?

1: Rockefeller, as you said - the man I was thinking of was John, the Republican I mentioned in the clue was Nelson.  
2: Jimmy Hoffa, as you said.  
3: The James brothers fit, but weren’t the robber I had in mind.  
IQ1: Are you a notorious American bank robber whose family name starts with a D?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/478 "2013-11-06T23:55:30Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a notorious American bank robber whose family name starts with a D?

Not John Dillinger.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/479 "2013-11-07T01:22:49Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you known as The Great Profile?
> 2. Did you front the Blackhearts?
> 3. Did you create Holden Caulfield?

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> DQ.  
> Not Joan Jett.  
> Not … John Steinbeck?

#1 was John Barrymore. #3 was J. D. Salinger in _Catcher in the Rye._

I’ll wait on my DQs until I have a good idea for 'em.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/480 "2013-11-07T03:21:13Z")

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Previous IQs:

Are you an evil young king? - Joffrey of Westeros (yes, from _Game of Thrones_)  
Are you secretly the father of that evil young king? - Jaime Lannister  
Are you perhaps the most hated alien sidekick evah? - Yes, Jar Jar (ptui!)

DQs:

Most famous for a single incident?

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Did a NE Ohio radio host say yesterday that he was named after you?  
Did you insist that your work be performed slowly?  
Did you insist that you were more important than the guy in the previous question?

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