# Botticelli - October 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 5, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411 "2013-10-05T01:50:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 35

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/681 "2013-11-19T00:23:10Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> Given my upbringing, I had 1 and 2 in a different order from you. **George Wilson** was indeed one of them, the other was \*\* Walter the Softy\*\*.

Hadn’t realised you weren’t American. 🙂 I saw your version of Dennis (in _Beano_, right?) in shops while I was in Scotland, but I never stopped to read any of it.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/682 "2013-11-19T00:37:15Z")

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Yes, I grew up on the Beano.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/683 "2013-11-19T01:16:26Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you elected president in _Of Thee I Sing_?
2. Were you a vet in _Horse Feathers_?
3. Did you run against FDR in 1940?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/684 "2013-11-19T02:26:52Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you elected president in _Of Thee I Sing_?
> 2. Were you a vet in _Horse Feathers_?
> 3. Did you run against FDR in 1940?

DQ.  
DQ.  
Not Wendell Willkie.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/685 "2013-11-19T03:20:05Z")

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1 was John P. Wintergreen, 2 was Quincy Wagstaff. [who I now realize was a college president, not a vet – that was A Day at the Races, so this DQ’s disqualified.]

DQ:  
From films?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/686 "2013-11-19T03:58:01Z")

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**W**

1. Fictional
2. W is the initial of my last name
3. Male
4. Not from literature
5. Not depicted as living on 20th- or 21st-century Earth
6. Have appeared in multiple works
7. Not from films (though there was one later)

fanganga has three reserved DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/687 "2013-11-19T05:03:17Z")

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**Prof. P.** , why didn’t Matthau like working with Streisand?

Previous IQs:

Did you make money fishing, distilling whiskey and growing hemp, among other things? - George Washington (and no, it wasn’t _that_ kind of hemp)  
Did you never again sleep in the room where your husband died? - Martha Washington  
Do you take lots of artsy photos of your dogs? - Yes, William Wegman

DQs:

American?  
First appeared as a TV character?

IQs:

Were you a top Catholic prelate profiled in _The New Yorker_?  
Have you played a librarian, a Soviet officer and a terrified housewife?  
Did your best friend have much nicer Christmas duds than you?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/688 "2013-11-19T08:03:03Z")

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IQ: Are you a klingon who served on the Enterprise?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/689 "2013-11-19T13:12:25Z")

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(IIRC, this was Matthau’s one-and-only musical, and the differences in making a musical vs a regular movie put him off. Couple that with his naturally grouchy nature and Streisand’s perfectionism (and, at this point, she was still something of a novice to movie making), and you had a breeding ground for insults.)  
IQs:

1. Did you supposedly summon Samuel’s spirit?
2. Did you die when a house fell on you?
3. Have children been searching for you since the late 1980’s?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/690 "2013-11-19T15:01:06Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you a top Catholic prelate profiled in _The New Yorker_?  
> Have you played a librarian, a Soviet officer and a terrified housewife?  
> Did your best friend have much nicer Christmas duds than you?

Not … Karol Wojtyla?  
DQ. (Interesting combo…)  
DQ.

> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Are you a klingon who served on the Enterprise?

Not Worf.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you supposedly summon Samuel’s spirit?
> 2. Did you die when a house fell on you?
> 3. Have children been searching for you since the late 1980’s?

Not the Witch of Endor.  
Not the Wicked Witch of the … East?  
Not Wally (UK)/Waldo (US).

**W**

1. Fictional
2. W is the initial of my last name
3. Male
4. Not from literature
5. Not depicted as living on 20th- or 21st-century Earth
6. Have appeared in multiple works
7. Not from films (though there was one later)
8. American
9. First appeared as a TV character

fanganga has three reserved DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/691 "2013-11-19T15:12:25Z")

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Right on all 3.

IQs:

1. Did Richard Thomas play you on a long-running TV series?
2. Were you #1’s father?
3. Were you an early TV show character who encouraged children to draw on the TV screen?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/692 "2013-11-19T15:46:34Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did Richard Thomas play you on a long-running TV series?
> 2. Were you #1’s father?
> 3. Were you an early TV show character who encouraged children to draw on the TV screen?

Not John-Boy Walton.  
DQ.  
DQ.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/693 "2013-11-19T15:51:28Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Not John-Boy Walton.  
> DQ.  
> DQ.

John Walton, Sr.  
Winky Dink

DQs:

1. Protagonist?
2. Show set in the future?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/694 "2013-11-19T18:16:06Z")

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**W**

1. Fictional
2. W is the initial of my last name
3. Male
4. Not from literature
5. Not depicted as living on 20th- or 21st-century Earth
6. Have appeared in multiple works
7. Not from films (though there was one later)
8. American
9. First appeared as a TV character
10. Protagonist
11. Show not set in the future

fanganga has three reserved DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/695 "2013-11-19T18:56:52Z")

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**Prof. P.** , thanks for the Matthau/Streisand explanation.

Previous IQs:

Were you a top Catholic prelate profiled in _The New Yorker_? - Not Karol Wojtyla, but I suppose that fits, so I’ll rephrase.  
Have you played a librarian, a Soviet officer and a terrified housewife? - Rachel Weisz, in _The Mummy, Enemy at the Gates_ and _Dream House_.  
Did your best friend have much nicer Christmas duds than you? - Ron Weasley’s Yule Ball robes weren’t nearly as snazzy as Harry Potter’s.

DQs:

On a science fiction show?  
On a show which first aired before 1980?

IQs:

Were you a top Catholic prelate, but not a Pope, profiled in _The New Yorker_?  
Did someone close to you very often express bafflement at your remarks?  
Was Geraldine your alter ego?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/696 "2013-11-19T20:09:42Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you a top Catholic prelate, but not a Pope, profiled in _The New Yorker_?  
> Did someone close to you very often express bafflement at your remarks?  
> Was Geraldine your alter ego?

DQ.  
Not … Nero Wolfe?  
Not Flip Wilson.

**W**

1. Fictional
2. W is the initial of my last name
3. Male
4. Not from literature
5. Not depicted as living on 20th- or 21st-century Earth
6. Have appeared in multiple works
7. Not from films (though there was one later)
8. American
9. First appeared as a TV character
10. Protagonist
11. Show not set in the future
12. Not on a science fiction show, though there were science-fictiony elements
13. On a show which first aired before 1980

fanganga has three reserved DQs.  
Hmm. Based on the above DQs, I expect EH or Prof P to have the correct answer in their next set…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/697 "2013-11-19T20:15:03Z")

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One quick thought:  
IQ: Did you frequently thwart the heinous Dr. Loveless, assisted by Artemus Gordon?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/698 "2013-11-19T20:36:32Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Hmm. Based on the above DQs, I expect EH or Prof P to have the correct answer in their next set…

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQ: Did you frequently thwart the heinous Dr. Loveless, assisted by Artemus Gordon?

Yes, I am indeed 19th-century Secret Service agent James West, of _The Wild Wild West_.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/699 "2013-11-19T20:52:17Z")

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Just about had to be a Western. I was lucky it wasn’t someone from Rawhide or Wagon Train, since I didn’t watch those.

About to leave. I’ll think of a V later on tonight.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/700 "2013-11-19T23:25:28Z")

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Okay, I’m back, and I am V.

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