# Botticelli - October 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 5, 2013, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411 "2013-10-05T01:50:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 9

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/161 "2013-10-19T00:57:35Z")

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**P**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. American
5. Not a politician
6. First name does not start with P
7. Known for the Arts
8. Did not die before 1900
9. Associated with the military, but not best known for military role
10. Did not die since 1950
11. Born east of the Mississippi River
12. Not best-known for a single incident or act
13. Not an author  
PP has one reserved DQ.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/162 "2013-10-19T02:14:16Z")

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That was Pyle, creator of Beetle Bailey

DQ: Musician?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/163 "2013-10-19T02:43:35Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did Jack Bauer do his best to protect you? - David Palmer, the Presidential candidate in the first season of _24_.  
Are you the dog of a boy in a series of kids’ books? - Pal, the dog of Arthur the aardvark.  
Did you create an illustration of a notorious bloodletting? - Paul Revere: [http://www.earlyamerica.com/image/review/winter96/massacre2.jpg](http://www.earlyamerica.com/image/review/winter96/massacre2.jpg)

DQs:

Best known for the visual arts (film, painting, sculpture, photography, etc.)?  
Win a top award in his field?

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Did you lead a group in a TV comedy-adventure show?  
Despite your warlike reputation, did you die in a simple car accident?  
Did you once play a gangster florist?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/164 "2013-10-19T10:57:09Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did you create a comic starring a military figure?

> [@etv78](#):
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> That was Pyle, creator of Beetle Bailey

Beetle Bailey was created by Mort Walker.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/165 "2013-10-19T11:04:58Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you lead a group in a TV comedy-adventure show?  
> Despite your warlike reputation, did you die in a simple car accident?  
> Did you once play a gangster florist?

Not … Peter Tork?  
Not George Patton.  
DQ.  
**P**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. American
5. Not a politician
6. First name does not start with P
7. Known for the Arts
8. Did not die before 1900
9. Associated with the military, but not best known for military role
10. Did not die since 1950
11. Born east of the Mississippi River
12. Not best-known for a single incident or act
13. Not an author
14. Not best known for the visual arts
15. Did not win a top award in his field

PP has one reserved DQ.  
EH has one reserved DQ.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/166 "2013-10-19T15:06:17Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Beetle Bailey was created by Mort Walker.

⭕smack:

Kinda knew I messed that!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/167 "2013-10-19T15:06:28Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you lead a group in a TV comedy-adventure show? - I’ll rephrase.  
Despite your warlike reputation, did you die in a simple car accident? - Correct, Gen. Patton.  
Did you once play a gangster florist? - Pete Postelthwaite (sp?), in _The Town_.

DQs:

Actor?

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Are you a star who dated another star with a similar name for awhile?  
Were you a noted chef in your particular regional cuisine?  
Were you berated by a very, very, very old person?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/168 "2013-10-19T15:07:21Z")

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IQ: Were you a musician paralyzed in a car accident?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/169 "2013-10-19T15:53:51Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you a perennial presidential candidate from _The Smothers Brothers Comedy Houi_?
2. Did you write _The Rape of the Lock_?
3. Were you also known as the Baron du Vallon de Bracieux de Pierrefonds?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/170 "2013-10-19T21:37:01Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Are you a star who dated another star with a similar name for awhile?  
> Were you a noted chef in your particular regional cuisine?  
> Were you berated by a very, very, very old person?

Three DQs.

> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Were you a musician paralyzed in a car accident?

DQ.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a perennial presidential candidate from _The Smothers Brothers Comedy Houi_?
> 2. Did you write _The Rape of the Lock_?
> 3. Were you also known as the Baron du Vallon de Bracieux de Pierrefonds?

Not the late, great Pat Paulsen (who probably would have been a better president than any of the last three).  
Not Alexander Pope.  
DQ.

[quote=“SCAdian, post:165, topic:670411”]

Not … Peter Tork?  
Not George Patton.  
DQ.  
**P**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. American
5. Not a politician
6. First name does not start with P
7. Known for the Arts
8. Did not die before 1900
9. Associated with the military, but not best known for military role
10. Did not die since 1950
11. Born east of the Mississippi River
12. Not best-known for a single incident or act
13. Not an author
14. Not best known for the visual arts
15. Did not win a top award in his field
16. Not an actor

PP has one reserved DQ.  
EH has one reserved DQ.

16 + 2 reserved + 5 just awarded = more than 20…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/171 "2013-10-20T02:10:15Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you a perennial presidential candidate from _The Smothers Brothers Comedy Houi_?
> 2. Did you write _The Rape of the Lock_?
> 3. Were you also known as the Baron du Vallon de Bracieux de Pierrefonds?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Not the late, great Pat Paulsen (who probably would have been a better president than any of the last three).  
> Not Alexander Pope.  
> DQ.

Right on the first two. The last is better known as Porthos, of the Three Musketeers. The more successful he became, the longer his name.

DQ: Known best for music? (singer, composer, instrumentalist, etc.)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/172 "2013-10-20T02:39:55Z")

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**P**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. American
5. Not a politician
6. First name does not start with P
7. Known for the Arts
8. Did not die before 1900
9. Associated with the military, but not best known for military role
10. Did not die since 1950
11. Born east of the Mississippi River
12. Not best-known for a single incident or act
13. Not an author
14. Not best known for the visual arts
15. Did not win a top award in his field
16. Not an actor
17. Known best for music

EH has one reserved DQ.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/173 "2013-10-20T04:22:25Z")

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DQ: Was the musical genre rock/pop?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/174 "2013-10-20T12:55:56Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> DQ: Was the musical genre rock/pop?

> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Were you a musician paralyzed in a car accident?

Who was that?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/175 "2013-10-20T14:37:39Z")

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To sum up: An American musician, male, first name doesn’t start with P, died between 1900-1950, born east of the Mississippi, didn’t win a top award, associated with the military.

So, can’t be rock. Maybe early pop, maybe classical, maybe jazz, maybe folk.

IQ: Did you compose _The Stars and Stripes Forever_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/176 "2013-10-20T14:54:27Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQ: Did you compose _The Stars and Stripes Forever_?

Yes! I am Sgt Maj (USMC) and Lt Cdr (USNR) John Philip Sousa.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/177 "2013-10-20T18:54:53Z")

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D’oh! I was working up to that, really! Sousa’s birthday’s in just a few weeks, too. Way to go, once again, **Prof. P**.!

My previous IQs:

Are you a star who dated another star with a similar name for awhile? - Penelope Cruz dated Tom Cruise.  
Were you a noted chef in your particular regional cuisine? - Paul Prudhomme, best known for Cajun cuisine.  
Were you berated by a very, very, very old person? - Peregrin “Pippin” Took, chewed out for clumsiness by Gandalf.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/178 "2013-10-20T20:43:25Z")

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Okay. Thanks to all! SCAdian tried to get sneaky with using a middle name, but then, when do you ever just say John P. Sousa?

This time around, I am K!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/179 "2013-10-20T20:47:30Z")

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IQ1: Is your girlfriend a real doll?  
IQ2: Did you have a dream?  
IQ3: Were you often Mildred Wirt Benson?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2013/670411/180 "2013-10-20T21:20:22Z")

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I’m not Ken Carson (former boyfriend to Barbara Roberts) of Mattel fame.  
I’m not Martin Luther King, Jr.  
Take a DQ for #3.

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