# Botticelli - October 2015 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [October 1, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156 "2015-10-01T16:53:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/401 "2015-10-24T22:46:31Z")
I was using the Wikipedia definition quoted above (post 395). I will continue with that for the rest of the game. For future games, however, I would prefer that we use my definition or EH’s: > [@SCAdian](#): > > To me, “literature” is prose fiction - novels, short stores, &c. For casual use, such as in this game, I would include all genres; more formally, such as at a library or a bookstore, I wouldn’t. I would also include epic poetry, such as the Iliad or the Mahabharata, but not Frost, Kipling, or other “popular” poetry. And as indicated, I would exclude non-fiction. (I would also exclude songs, play and movie scripts, comic books/graphic novels, and advertising.) > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I always assumed literature was any published fiction, excluding poetry. Then we narrow down by year, author, genre, etc. They rule out judgment calls like “critically acclaimed” or of “lasting importance.” ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/402 "2015-10-24T22:48:48Z")
… Play on! ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/403 "2015-10-24T22:55:37Z")
**C** 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. American 4. Name starts with C 5. Not primarily known from visual media 6. Would not be alive today, if real 7. From literature 8. Human 9. Not associated with NYC 10. Would probably have died before 1941, if real 11. Considered a “good guy” (though a lot of people were really annoyed in the end :D) 12. Not Scifi/Fantasy genre 13. Protagonist 14. Not from a work written after 1950 15. Not also known by any other name within the fiction 16. Not crime/Mystery genre 17. Appeared in only a single work I am unable to answer the following DQs: > [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#): > > DQ: Did you appear mostly in urban settings? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Most associated with a locale west of the Miss. River? Tim and EH, please ask something else. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/404 "2015-10-24T23:00:07Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you an Apache leader who lead a revolt against the U.S. government? > 2. Are you the Muse of History? > 3. Were you the SDMB Member who bit me in the Zombie attack of 2013, turning me into the Severed Head of Prof. Pepperwinkle? Not Mangas Coloradas. Not … Calliope? (Though I think she was music…) DQ. > [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#): > > IQ1: Are you referred to only as Captain? DQ. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/405 "2015-10-25T00:11:18Z")
> [@](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you an Apache leader who lead a revolt against the U.S. government? > 2. Are you the Muse of History? > 3. Were you the SDMB Member who bit me in the Zombie attack of 2013, turning me into the Severed Head of Prof. Pepperwinkle? > Not Mangas Coloradas. > Not … Calliope? (Though I think she was music…) > DQ. For #1, I had Cochise, but never mind. #2 was Clio. Calliope was epic poetry. #3 was Czarcasm. 2 DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/406 "2015-10-25T00:23:18Z")
> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#): > > IQ1: Are you referred to only as Captain? Captain, who was a metaphor for Lincoln in “O Captain! My Captain!” by Whitman. An example of something that various definitions of ‘literature’ would classify differently, as short published poetry that was critically acclaimed and is often studied in schools. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/407 "2015-10-25T00:34:54Z")
DQ: Known by an epithet or title (such as Captain, Chief, Colonel)? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/408 "2015-10-25T00:50:45Z")
**C** 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. American 4. Name starts with C 5. Not primarily known from visual media 6. Would not be alive today, if real 7. From literature 8. Human 9. Not associated with NYC 10. Would probably have died before 1941, if real 11. Considered a “good guy” (though a lot of people were really annoyed in the end :D) 12. Not Scifi/Fantasy genre 13. Protagonist 14. Not from a work written after 1950 15. Not also known by any other name within the fiction 16. Not crime/Mystery genre 17. Appeared in only a single work 18. Not known by an epithet or title (such as Captain, Chief, Colonel) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/409 "2015-10-25T12:55:04Z")
DQ: Written before 1900? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/410 "2015-10-25T12:56:41Z")
nm, Prof ninja’ed me with the exact same question ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/411 "2015-10-25T13:10:06Z")
IQs: 1. Are you the actor currently playing Superman in the movies? 2. Do you play Penny on _The Big Bang Theory_? 3. Are you the title character of a children’s book by Penelope Farmer? ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/412 "2015-10-25T13:48:50Z")
DQ: would your name have a non-capitalized entry in a typical English language dictionary? Should cover animal names like Crow or Coyote, characters referred to by a characteristic like the Cowboy or the Condemned, characters named for a virtue like Courage or Compassion. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/413 "2015-10-25T17:56:54Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > …I am unable to answer the following DQs: > > …Tim and EH, please ask something else. OK. DQ: Well- or best-known for his love of someone else? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/414 "2015-10-25T19:39:14Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Are you the actor currently playing Superman in the movies? > 2. Do you play Penny on _The Big Bang Theory_? > 3. Are you the title character of a children’s book by Penelope Farmer? I’m not any of those people, whoever they are. That would be three DQs, but… **C** 1. Fictional 2. Male 3. American 4. Name starts with C 5. Not primarily known from visual media 6. Would not be alive today, if real 7. From literature, as defined in Wikipedia 8. Human 9. Not associated with NYC 10. Would probably have died before 1941, if real 11. Considered a “good guy” (though a lot of people were really annoyed in the end :D) 12. Not Scifi/Fantasy genre 13. Protagonist 14. Not from a work written after 1950 15. Not also known by any other name within the fiction 16. Not crime/Mystery genre 17. Appeared in only a single work 18. Not known by an epithet or title (such as Captain, Chief, Colonel) 19. Written before 1900 20. My name would not have a non-capitalized entry in a typical English language dictionary 21. Not well- or best-known for my love of someone else Aaaand … there we go! Everyone who was given a DQ in this round (Tim, KO, EH, and the Prof) gets one last DQ, in the form “Are you Firstname Lastname?” Answers 11 and 17 are important… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/415 "2015-10-25T22:40:18Z")
DQ: Are you Chingachgook, last of the Mohicans? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/416 "2015-10-25T22:47:50Z")
Are you Chiun from Remo Williams? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/417 "2015-10-25T23:08:20Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > DQ: Are you Chingachgook, last of the Mohicans? I am not. > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Are you Chiun from Remo Williams? I am not. ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/418 "2015-10-25T23:19:57Z")
Pass, I’m stumped. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/419 "2015-10-26T04:42:10Z")
Hmm. Thinking… ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2015, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156/420 "2015-10-26T19:15:10Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > 1. Appeared in only a single work It seems there have also been parodies, but only the one piece by the original author. DQ 11 is important, as is DQ 7 (the answer to which I have amended slightly). Tim, do you wish to yield your DQ to one of the other players? Or to have a sudden flash of brilliance 😃 and use it yourself? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2015/733156.md?page=22)