# Botticelli - October 2016

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 2, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528 "2016-10-02T21:11:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/101 "2016-10-25T03:11:45Z")

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Still stumped.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/102 "2016-10-25T11:01:32Z")

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**F**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. First name begins with F
5. Not known for the Arts
6. Not born before 1850
7. Not Known for politics and/or the military
8. Not American
9. Not known for science
10. Born before 1964
11. European
12. Businessman/entrepreneur, but not famous for that
13. British
14. Not born after 1920
15. Not of royal or noble blood
16. English
17. Not associated with London
18. Formerly common first name (in the US it peaked in popularity in the early 1920s, hasn’t been in the top 100 names since 1955, and now isn’t in the top 600)
19. Not known for criminal activity
20. Not known for my death or for events that directly caused it
21. My first name is Francis

Aaaaand there we are… One “Are you Firstname Lastname” DQ each for the three of you.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/103 "2016-10-25T13:42:32Z")

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Hmmm. A nonfictional English male, dead, first name Francis (and I already guessed Bacon, Urquhart and Drake), born between 1850 and 1920. Businessman/entrepreneur, but not famous for that. Not known for the arts, politics, the military, science, crime, or the way he died.

Are you former Foreign Secretary Francis Pym?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/104 "2016-10-25T13:46:14Z")

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Are you the modern figurist painter Francis Bacon?

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/105 "2016-10-25T14:04:35Z")

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A sports figure, perhaps. Nevertheless, I’m stumped. Pass.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/106 "2016-10-25T22:01:35Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Are you former Foreign Secretary Francis Pym?

I am not.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Are you the modern figurist painter Francis Bacon?

I am not.

> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
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> A sports figure, perhaps.

I am (of sorts).

> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
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> Nevertheless, I’m stumped. Pass.

I first made my name in aviation, flying solo from England to Australia in 1929-30, and in 1931 becoming the first person to fly solo from New Zealand to Australia (using a Gypsy Moth fitted with floats). During WW II I served as Chief Navigation Instructor at the RAF’s Central Flying School. After the war I opened a map-publishing business, which continued on for forty years after my death, and took up sailing. I won the first solo transatlantic race, in 1960, in my yacht _Gipsy Moth III_, and am best known for having sailed _Gipsy Moth IV_ around the world in 1966-67 – the first man to sail single-handed around the world going west to east.

I was knighted for this, and am Sir **F** rancis Chichester, KBE.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/107 "2016-10-26T00:34:52Z")

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Okay, I’ve heard of Chichester. Good job, SCA!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/108 "2016-10-26T04:16:52Z")

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Yup, I’ve heard of him too. Good one.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/109 "2016-10-27T02:37:22Z")

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Let’s hope this one isn’t too obscure…

I am **C**.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/110 "2016-10-27T11:10:12Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the female lead in _It Happened One Night_?
2. Were you married to Billy Joel?
3. Were you half of a brother-sister duo whose sister died from complications from bulimia?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/111 "2016-10-27T12:40:33Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the female lead in _It Happened One Night_?
> 2. Were you married to Billy Joel?
> 3. Were you half of a brother-sister duo whose sister died from complications from bulimia?

DQ.  
DQ.  
Not Richard Carpenter.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/112 "2016-10-27T13:51:28Z")

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IQs:

Was Simon Kerslake your first Prime Minister?  
Were you badly beaten by a pissed-off Southerner in the U.S. Senate chamber?  
Did you dictate letters to your sister in Boston?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/113 "2016-10-27T17:02:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the female lead in It Happened One Night?
> 2. Were you married to Billy Joel?
> 3. Were you half of a brother-sister duo whose sister died from complications from bulimia?  
> DQ.  
> DQ.  
> Not Richard Carpenter.

#1 was Claudette Colbert. #2 was Christy Brinkley.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/114 "2016-10-27T18:30:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Was Simon Kerslake your first Prime Minister?  
> Were you badly beaten by a pissed-off Southerner in the U.S. Senate chamber?  
> Did you dictate letters to your sister in Boston?

Three DQs.

**C**

1. Fictional
2. Male

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/115 "2016-10-27T18:47:40Z")

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Previous IQs:

Was Simon Kerslake your first Prime Minister? - King Charles III, in Jeffrey Archer’s political thriller _First Among Equals_.  
Were you badly beaten by a pissed-off Southerner in the U.S. Senate chamber? - Sen. Charles Sumner: [Caning of Charles Sumner - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_of_Charles_Sumner)  
Did you dictate letters to your sister in Boston? - Maj. Charles Emerson Winchester, on _M_A_S_H\*.

Charles x3!

DQs:

Last name starts with C?  
American?  
Would be alive today, if real?

IQs:

Are you married to actress Rachel Weisz?  
Were you the Finch family’s cook and confidante?  
Were you Don Johnson’s most famous role?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/116 "2016-10-27T20:08:33Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you hang around with Spinner & Paddlefoot?
2. Did you play the title character on _Coach_?
3. Did a generation of kids wonder “where in the world” you are?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/117 "2016-10-28T10:35:12Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Are you married to actress Rachel Weisz?  
> Were you the Finch family’s cook and confidante?  
> Were you Don Johnson’s most famous role?

Three DQs.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you hang around with Spinner & Paddlefoot?
> 2. Did you play the title character on _Coach_?
> 3. Did a generation of kids wonder “where in the world” you are?

Not Clutch Cargo.  
DQ.  
Not Carmen Sandiego.

**C**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with C
4. American
5. Could be alive today, if real

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/118 "2016-10-28T10:40:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you hang around with Spinner & Paddlefoot?
> 2. Did you play the title character on Coach?
> 3. Did a generation of kids wonder “where in the world” you are?  
> Not Clutch Cargo.  
> DQ.  
> Not Carmen Sandiego.

Correct on Clutch and Carmen. #2 was Craig T. Nelson.

DQ: Known from TV or movies?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/119 "2016-10-28T10:44:30Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the seafaring title mascot character of a line of cereals?
2. Are you the title mascot character of a household product who has been around for over 50 years?
3. Is your motto “It’s not easy being cheesy”?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2016/767528/120 "2016-10-28T11:09:57Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you the seafaring title mascot character of a line of cereals?
> 2. Are you the title mascot character of a household product who has been around for over 50 years?
> 3. Is your motto “It’s not easy being cheesy”?

Not Cap’n Crunch.  
Not Mr Clean.  
Not … Chester Cheetah?

**C**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name does not start with C
4. American
5. Could be alive today, if real
6. Not known from TV or movies

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