# Botticelli - October 2018

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 3, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378 "2018-10-03T16:46:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/41 "2018-10-09T03:07:54Z")

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English is different from British.

Previous IQs:

Did you listen to a birthday message from your parents while sunbathing? - Yes, Frank Poole, in _2001: A Space Odyssey_  
Do you frequently ask rhetorical questions about whether people have done particularly embarrassing things, and then confess, “I have”? - Tom Papa (worth watching the whole thing, but see 1:11 and 1:50 for two examples of this): [Out In America: Indianapolis - Tom Papa - 3/10/2018 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z75Zz_h-3Ro)  
Were you “a basic pleasure model”? - Yes, Pris, from _Blade Runner_

Two DQs reserved.

IQs:

Were you the Roman general who besieged Masada?  
Were you one of a pair of fictional British criminals based on the Krays?  
Were you his brother?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/42 "2018-10-09T13:23:08Z")

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So, a British prankster, born 1500-1800, known by a sobriquet.

Huh. Still thinking.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/43 "2018-10-09T15:17:43Z")

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IQ1: Are you a platinum-haired country singer aka “Mr. Grand Ole Opry”?  
IQ2: Are you the country diva who frequently sang duets with IQ1?  
IQ3: Were you a\* Hee Haw \*regular who wore tacky hats with the price tags unremoved?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/44 "2018-10-09T15:40:10Z")

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DQ: Human?

1 DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/45 "2018-10-10T01:42:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you the Roman general who besieged Masada?  
> Were you one of a pair of fictional British criminals based on the Krays?  
> Were you his brother?

Respectively:  
Take a DQ.  
I am not Doug Piranha.  
I am not Dinsdale Piranha.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> IQ1: Are you a platinum-haired country singer aka “Mr. Grand Ole Opry”?  
> IQ2: Are you the country diva who frequently sang duets with IQ1?  
> IQ3: Were you a\* Hee Haw \*regular who wore tacky hats with the price tags unremoved?

IQ1: Take a DQ.  
IQ2: I am not Dolly Parton.  
IQ3: I am not Minnie Pearl.  
DQs:

1. was claimed to be real by someone else, actual status unknown
2. last word of name begins with P
3. not American
4. male
5. probably Caucasian
6. born before 1800
7. not a Biblical character
8. **not a “good guy”; meant well, but unintentionally an aggravation**
9. born after 400 A.D.
10. European
11. born after 1066
12. identity unknown, name is a sobriquet
13. British
14. not considered a criminal by the authorities of the day
15. born after 1500
16. from England
17. human

Note the clarification of 8.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/46 "2018-10-10T04:12:43Z")

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Until the “human” answer, I was almost thinking this was Winnie the Pooh.

Previous IQs:

Were you the Roman general who besieged Masada? - Pomponious Falco  
Were you one of a pair of fictional British criminals based on the Krays? - Yes, Doug Piranha: [The Piranha Brothers - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBL3XB-PhE8)  
Were you his brother? - Yes, Dinsdale Piranha (and certainly not Spiny Norman)

DQ:

Best known for a single incident?

I yield my other two earned DQs to other players, one apiece.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/47 "2018-10-10T13:02:15Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a platinum-haired country singer aka “Mr. Grand Ole Opry”?  
> IQ2: Are you the country diva who frequently sang duets with IQ1?  
> IQ3: Were you a Hee Haw regular who wore tacky hats with the price tags unremoved?
> 
> IQ1: Take a DQ.  
> IQ2: I am not Dolly Parton.  
> IQ3: I am not Minnie Pearl.

Porter Waggoner

DQ: Known from the Revolutionary War?

holding a DQ

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/48 "2018-10-10T16:02:08Z")

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…not “Peeping Tom”…not from Arthurian Cycle or Robin Hood…

I’m stumped at the moment.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/49 "2018-10-10T22:19:40Z")

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DQs:

1. was claimed to be real by someone else, actual status unknown
2. last word of name begins with P
3. not American
4. male
5. probably Caucasian
6. born before 1800
7. not a Biblical character
8. not a “good guy”; meant well, but unintentionally an aggravation
9. born after 400 A.D.
10. European
11. born after 1066
12. identity unknown, name is a sobriquet
13. British
14. not considered a criminal by the authorities of the day
15. born after 1500
16. from England
17. human
18. known for a single incident
19. not known from the Revolutionary War

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/50 "2018-10-11T12:53:58Z")

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IQ1: Did you compose music for bizarre instruments such as the tromboon and pastaphone?  
IQ2: Are you part of a country music comedy duo with Richard Bowden?  
IQ3: Do you and Ragetti provide comic relief in the _Pirates of the Caribbean_ movies?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/51 "2018-10-11T13:02:40Z")

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…It’s not Mr. Punch. I still am stumped.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/52 "2018-10-11T17:46:21Z")

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DQ: Born after 1700?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/53 "2018-10-11T17:49:53Z")

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For the new page:

DQs:

1. was claimed to be real by someone else, actual status unknown
2. last word of name begins with P
3. not American
4. male
5. probably Caucasian
6. born before 1800
7. not a Biblical character
8. not a “good guy”; meant well, but unintentionally an aggravation
9. born after 400 A.D.
10. European
11. born after 1066
12. identity unknown, name is a sobriquet
13. British
14. not considered a criminal by the authorities of the day
15. born after 1500
16. from England
17. human

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/54 "2018-10-11T17:59:59Z")

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That’s incomplete. It’s:

DQs:

1. was claimed to be real by someone else, actual status unknown
2. last word of name begins with P
3. not American
4. male
5. probably Caucasian
6. born before 1800
7. not a Biblical character
8. not a “good guy”; meant well, but unintentionally an aggravation
9. born after 400 A.D.
10. European
11. born after 1066
12. identity unknown, name is a sobriquet
13. British
14. not considered a criminal by the authorities of the day
15. born after 1500
16. from England
17. human
18. known for a single incident
19. not known from the Revolutionary War

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/55 "2018-10-11T18:07:58Z")

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Oops, thanks!

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/56 "2018-10-11T23:22:14Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> IQ1: Did you compose music for bizarre instruments such as the tromboon and pastaphone?  
> IQ2: Are you part of a country music comedy duo with Richard Bowden?  
> IQ3: Do you and Ragetti provide comic relief in the _Pirates of the Caribbean_ movies?

IQ1: I am still not PDQ Bach.  
IQ2: Take a DQ.  
IQ3: I am not Pintel.

DQs:

1. was claimed to be real by someone else, actual status unknown
2. last word of name begins with P
3. not American
4. male
5. probably Caucasian
6. born before 1800
7. not a Biblical character
8. not a “good guy”; meant well, but unintentionally an aggravation
9. born after 400 A.D.
10. European
11. born after 1066
12. identity unknown, name is a sobriquet
13. British
14. not considered a criminal by the authorities of the day
15. born after 1500
16. from England
17. human
18. known for a single incident
19. not known from the Revolutionary War
20. probably born after 1700  
Well, we’re now up to 20 DQs. I’ll take final questions until 10PM tomorrow (Friday), Eastern Daylight Time.

Let me know if you want a hint.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/57 "2018-10-12T11:39:45Z")

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No, I don’t want a hint even though I’m still stumped. I’m very curious, though.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/58 "2018-10-12T12:15:55Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> IQ1: Did you compose music for bizarre instruments such as the tromboon and pastaphone?  
> IQ2: Are you part of a country music comedy duo with Richard Bowden?  
> IQ3: Do you and Ragetti provide comic relief in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies?
> 
> IQ1: I am still not PDQ Bach.  
> IQ2: Take a DQ.  
> IQ3: I am not Pintel.

James Pinkard

I have 2 DQs. What to ask? I’m wondering if this is a legend like Spring-heeled Jack, who many claim to have seen, but there’s no actual evidence he existed.

Known for a single incident, but not criminal in nature. Considered an aggravation, so more like a nuisance. Was it like when witches were accused of turning milk sour? How do I ask that as a DQ? oy…

DQ: Was this incident a reported news item that was covered by the press of the day?

holding a DQ

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/59 "2018-10-12T16:48:21Z")

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DQs:

1. was claimed to be real by someone else, actual status unknown
2. last word of name begins with P
3. not American
4. male
5. probably Caucasian
6. born before 1800
7. not a Biblical character
8. not a “good guy”; meant well, but unintentionally an aggravation
9. born after 400 A.D.
10. European
11. born after 1066
12. identity unknown, name is a sobriquet
13. British
14. not considered a criminal by the authorities of the day
15. born after 1500
16. from England
17. human
18. known for a single incident
19. not known from the Revolutionary War
20. probably born after 1700
21. incident wasn’t a reported news item that was covered by the press of the day; was related to the public some years later by the other person involved

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2018/822378/60 "2018-10-12T18:51:20Z")

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Hmm. Still stumped.

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