# Botticelli - October 2021

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [October 4, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843 "2021-10-04T01:12:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/181 "2021-10-21T19:45:19Z")

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## I am B

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name does not begin with B
4. Not from prose
5. Created by an American
6. From film or TV
7. American character
8. From film
9. From a genre
10. As the original iteration of the character, appeared once
11. Would not be alive, if real
12. Antagonist
13. First appeared before 2000
14. First name begins with B
15. First appeared after 1980

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/182 "2021-10-21T20:22:36Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you the first Native American to serve in the US Senate? - Ben Nighthorse Campbell  
When asked what an early hot-air balloon was good for, did you supposedly reply, “What good is a newborn baby?” - Ben Franklin  
Were you a medico who went into politics and served in the Trump Cabinet? - Yes, Ben Carson

Ben x3!

DQs:

Science fiction character?  
Dies in the movie?

IQs:

Did you lose at Fredericksburg in 1862?  
Did you lose at Chattanooga in 1864?  
Were you the only Jewish person in the Confederate Cabinet?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/183 "2021-10-21T20:42:27Z")

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IQs:  
1. Were you intended to be in _Ghostbusters_ (and in the IDW comics, does Ray’s spirit guide look like another role you played)?  
2. Did you create _Ernie Pook’s Comeek_?  
3. Were you Aunt Zelda on _Sabrina the Teeange Witch_?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/184 "2021-10-21T22:11:39Z")

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## I am B

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name does not begin with B
4. Not from prose
5. Created by an American
6. From film or TV
7. American character
8. From film
9. From a genre
10. As the original iteration of the character, appeared once
11. Would not be alive, if real
12. Antagonist
13. First appeared before 2000
14. First name begins with B
15. First appeared after 1980
16. Not a science fiction character
17. Dies in the movie

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/185 "2021-10-21T22:15:34Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you lose at Fredericksburg in 1862?  
> Did you lose at Chattanooga in 1864?  
> Were you the only Jewish person in the Confederate Cabinet?

I’m guessing 1 or 2 are Ambrose Burnside? Take a DQ

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> 1. Were you intended to be in _Ghostbusters_ (and in the IDW comics, does Ray’s spirit guide look like another role you played)?
> 2. Did you create _Ernie Pook’s Comeek_ ?
> 3. Were you Aunt Zelda on _Sabrina the Teeange Witch_ ?

DQ, DQ, I am not Beth Broderick

We’re now over 20 DQs…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/186 "2021-10-21T23:02:00Z")

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DQ: Historical fiction genre?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/187 "2021-10-21T23:53:12Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:  
> 1. Were you intended to be in _Ghostbusters_ (and in the IDW comics, does Ray’s spirit guide look like another role you played)?  
> 2. Did you create _Ernie Pook’s Comeek_?  
> 3. Were you Aunt Zelda on _Sabrina the Teeange Witch_?

> [@MissTake](#):
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> DQ, DQ, I am not Beth Broderick

1 was John Belushi; 2 was Lynda Barry; 3 was correct.

DQ: first appeared before 1990?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/188 "2021-10-22T00:05:21Z")

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## I am B

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name does not begin with B
4. Not from prose
5. Created by an American
6. From film or TV
7. American character
8. From film
9. From a genre
10. As the original iteration of the character, appeared once
11. Would not be alive, if real
12. Antagonist
13. First appeared before 2000
14. First name begins with B
15. First appeared after 1980
16. Not a science fiction character
17. Dies in the movie
18. Not historical fiction
19. First appeared after 1990

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/189 "2021-10-22T01:20:05Z")

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That leaves, what, spy films, horror and fantasy? What else?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/190 "2021-10-22T01:35:08Z")

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Well, it’s October, so final DQ: from a horror movie?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/191 "2021-10-22T02:16:28Z")

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## I am B

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name does not begin with B
4. Not from prose
5. Created by an American
6. From film or TV
7. American character
8. From film
9. From a genre
10. As the original iteration of the character, appeared once
11. Would not be alive, if real
12. Antagonist
13. First appeared before 2000
14. First name begins with B
15. First appeared after 1980
16. Not a science fiction character
17. Dies in the movie
18. Not historical fiction
19. First appeared after 1990
20. From a horror movie

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/192 "2021-10-22T05:20:29Z")

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Is the rule you have to have earned a DQ before you can ask a Firstname Lastname Q? This one went by so fast I didn’t get a chance to ask any IQs. (Stupid work)

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/193 "2021-10-22T10:41:05Z")

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🤷🏼‍♀️ No idea, but I say go for it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/194 "2021-10-22T13:50:59Z")

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No objection, but yes, that is the rule.

Previous IQs:

Did you lose at Fredericksburg in 1862? - Yes, Ambrose Burnside  
Did you lose at Chattanooga in 1864? - Braxton Bragg  
Were you the only Jewish person in the Confederate Cabinet? - Judah P. Benjamin

Two DQs reserved.

Lemme see… the bad guy in a horror (not sf) movie released 1990-2000, first name B, and dies in the movie. Hmm. I don’t know my Nineties horror movies all that well.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/195 "2021-10-22T15:55:25Z")

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Agreed, it’s the rule, but go for it.

Suggestions for DQs:

1. Are you the main antagonist?
2. From one in a series of horror films?
3. Ordinary first name?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/196 "2021-10-22T16:16:29Z")

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## I am B

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name does not begin with B
4. Not from prose
5. Created by an American
6. From film or TV
7. American character
8. From film
9. From a genre
10. As the original iteration of the character, appeared once
11. Would not be alive, if real
12. Antagonist
13. First appeared before 2000
14. First name begins with B
15. First appeared after 1980
16. Not a science fiction character
17. Dies in the movie
18. Not historical fiction
19. First appeared after 1990
20. From a horror movie
21. Main antagonist
22. From one in a series of horror films
23. Ordinary first name

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/197 "2021-10-22T17:50:46Z")

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Thanks everyone.

Are you Billy Loomis, one of the two people wearing the Ghostface mask in the original _Scream_?

If you haven’t seen the films, each movie has a different killer or set of killers wearing the mask (at least in the first three, which is all I’ve seen)

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/198 "2021-10-22T17:54:58Z")

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# Yes! I am Billy Loomis!

The head ‘baddun’ from the original _Scream_ movie!

Congratulations @ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/199 "2021-10-22T18:11:06Z")

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Good one\*\*, Chock!\*\*

I was thinkin’ Buffalo Bill from _Silence of the Lambs_.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-october-2021/951843/200 "2021-10-22T18:22:29Z")

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Congrats, Chock!

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I was thinkin’ Buffalo Bill from _Silence of the Lambs_.

Same here (though he appeared in the novel first, and there’s the question of how to interpret “first name begins with B, last name doesn’t, ordinary first name”–is “Bill” the first name? Is “Buffalo” the first name? Is Gumb the last name?). Anyway, it’s now a moot point (congrats again).

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