# Botticelli (Part Whatever)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653
**Category:** Thread Games
**Created:** [May 21, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653 "2012-05-21T21:04:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/61 "2012-05-24T00:45:47Z")

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> [@wargamer](#):
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> IQ1. Are you noted for possessing some unusual digits?
> 
> IQ2. Did you win the Triple Crown twice?
> 
> IQ3. Did you spend 22 years as a mediocre at best GM after a Hall of Fame career with Minneapolis and Los Angeles?

1&2. Edward Scissorhands and Eddie Arcaro

DQs:

Are you American?

Are you noted more for authorship (writing, painting, composition, etc) of a work as opposed to performing?

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### Author: ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/62 "2012-05-24T00:50:12Z")

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IQ1. Were you a soccer fan with a murderous bent?

IQ2. Were you one of the few people banned from the Olympic Games for your own safety?

IQ3. Were you and one of your closest co-workers called The Berlin Wall by others who knew the two of you?

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### Author: ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/63 "2012-05-24T01:52:51Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> IQ1. Were you a soccer fan with a murderous bent?
> 
> IQ2. Were you one of the few people banned from the Olympic Games for your own safety?
> 
> IQ3. Were you and one of your closest co-workers called The Berlin Wall by others who knew the two of you?

Man, I don’t know any of these. 3 more DQs for **Wargamer**.

> [@Wargamer](#):
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> Are you American?
> 
> Are you noted more for authorship (writing, painting, composition, etc) of a work as opposed to performing?

Yes to both.

DQs:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not currently living.
4. I am known for my contributions to the arts.
5. I am American.
6. I am noted more for authorship (writing, painting, composition, etc.) than for performance.

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### Author: ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/64 "2012-05-24T01:55:31Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Did the President order your psychiatrist’s office burgalled?

I’m not Thomas Eagleton (again, I’m not sure - take a DQ if I’m wrong).

> [@MissTake](#):
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> IQ1: Were you supposed to be the Tin Man, until allergies forced you to quit?  
> IQ2: Was your wife the grandmother of a “Princess”?

I’m not Buddy Ebsen, but I don’t know the second question - another DQ.

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### Author: ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/65 "2012-05-24T03:05:27Z")

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1. Pablo Escobar, the head of the Medellin Cocaine Cartel, murderer, thug, and soccer nut.

2. British ski jumper and Accident in Waiting - Eddie ‘the Eagle’ Edwards.

3. John Ehrlichmann, who along with H.R. Haldemann were collectively known as The Berlin Wall in Richard Nixon’s White House, due to their Germanic surnames and their propensity towards keeping Nixon walled off from any other advisers.

DQ. Were you born after 1900?

DQ. Are you noted for your creation of motion pictures or television?

DQ. Does your last name start with E?  
IQ1. Did you direct a movie about an odd pink boat (Hint - see Cecil’s column from 5/23)?

IQ2. Did you and your half-sister REALLY not see eye to eye on matters of religion?

IQ3. Did your folksy style endear you to legions of dogfaces and grunts?

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### Author: ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/66 "2012-05-24T03:06:22Z")

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Do you write prose?

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### Author: ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/67 "2012-05-24T03:07:12Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I’m not Buddy Ebsen, but I don’t know the second question - another DQ.

Blake Edwards, who is married to Julie Andrews (she played the grandmother in _The Princess Diaries_)

DQ: Did you die in the past 50 years?

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### Author: ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/68 "2012-05-24T05:19:22Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> 1. Pablo Escobar, the head of the Medellin Cocaine Cartel, murderer, thug, and soccer nut.
> 
> 2. British ski jumper and Accident in Waiting - Eddie ‘the Eagle’ Edwards.
> 
> 3. John Ehrlichmann, who along with H.R. Haldemann were collectively known as The Berlin Wall in Richard Nixon’s White House, due to their Germanic surnames and their propensity towards keeping Nixon walled off from any other advisers.
> 
> DQ. Were you born after 1900?
> 
> DQ. Are you noted for your creation of motion pictures or television?
> 
> DQ. Does your last name start with E?

DQs:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not currently living.
4. I am known for my contributions to the arts.
5. I am American.
6. I am noted more for authorship (writing, painting, composition, etc.) than for performance.
7. I was not born after 1900.
8. I am not noted for my creation of motion pictures or television.
9. My last name does not start with E.

> [@](#):
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> IQ1. Did you direct a movie about an odd pink boat (Hint - see Cecil’s column from 5/23)?
> 
> IQ2. Did you and your half-sister REALLY not see eye to eye on matters of religion?
> 
> IQ3. Did your folksy style endear you to legions of dogfaces and grunts?

Do you have a link to Cecil’s column? I didn’t see anything dated 5/23/2012 on the main page or in the archives. In the meantime, take a DQ for #2. I’m not R. Lee Ermey, although I wouldn’t call his a folksy style. If you were thinking of someone else, take another DQ.

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### Author: ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/69 "2012-05-24T05:20:55Z")

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> [@MissTake](#):
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> Blake Edwards, who is married to Julie Andrews (she played the grandmother in _The Princess Diaries_)
> 
> DQ: Did you die in the past 50 years?

Nope.  
DQs:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not currently living.
4. I am known for my contributions to the arts.
5. I am American.
6. I am noted more for authorship (writing, painting, composition, etc.) than for performance.
7. I was not born after 1900.
8. I am not noted for my creation of motion pictures or television.
9. My last name does not start with E.
10. I died before May 23, 1962.

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### Author: ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/70 "2012-05-24T05:23:11Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Do you write prose?

Is this an IQ or a DQ? It’ll make it a lot easier for me if you label your questions.

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### Author: ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/71 "2012-05-24T05:27:57Z")

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**Enginerd** -sorry, that was a DQ. BTW, my Nixon IQ refered to Ellsberg.

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/72 "2012-05-24T14:01:28Z")

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Well, I’m back! Busy, busy…

IQs:

Did a video of you fussing with your hair go viral?  
Were you a notable early Irish patriot and freedom fighter?  
Did you and your brother play important roles in the early history of a New England state?

And may I suggest, where possible for clarity, that DQ answers be given more directly/affirmatively?

1. I am not currently living.  
_Instead:_ 3. Dead.

2. I was not born after 1900.  
_Instead:_ 7. Born before 1900.

3. My last name does not start with E.  
_Instead:_ 9. First name starts with E.

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### Author: ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/73 "2012-05-24T14:15:40Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> **Enginerd** -sorry, that was a DQ. BTW, my Nixon IQ refered to Ellsberg.

Ah, ok. Yes, I did write prose.

DQs:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not currently living.
4. I am known for my contributions to the arts.
5. I am American.
6. I am noted more for authorship (writing, painting, composition, etc.) than for performance.
7. I was not born after 1900.
8. I am not noted for my creation of motion pictures or television.
9. My last name does not start with E.
10. I died before May 23, 1962.
11. I did write prose.

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### Author: ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/74 "2012-05-24T14:32:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Well, I’m back! Busy, busy…
> 
> IQs:
> 
> Did a video of you fussing with your hair go viral?  
> Were you a notable early Irish patriot and freedom fighter?  
> Did you and your brother play important roles in the early history of a New England state?

I’m not John Edwards. Take DQs for your other two questions.

> [@](#):
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> And may I suggest, where possible for clarity, that DQ answers be given more directly/affirmatively?

I disagree that this adds clarity - I think it’s more clear to answer the DQs exactly as they were written. For example, you assume that the person has only two names or goes by his first name. If your target were H. Ross Perot under “R,” then the answers “last name does not begin with R” and “first name begins with R” are not interchangeable. To keep things consistent, I’ve been answering all the questions this way.

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### Author: ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/75 "2012-05-24T15:46:34Z")

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IQ1: Do you spend most of your time onstage pointlessly, almost absurdly, arguing with Vladimir?

IQ2: Are you the title character of an opera by Donizetti?

IQ3: Are you the bishop who baptized Constantine?

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### Author: ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/76 "2012-05-24T16:16:00Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did a video of you fussing with your hair go viral?  
> Were you a notable early Irish patriot and freedom fighter?  
> Did you and your brother play important roles in the early history of a New England state?

Yes, John Edwards.  
Edward FitzGerald.  
Ethan (and Ira) Allen of Vermont.

DQs:

Novelist?  
First name start with E?

IQs:

Does a Detroit church include a memorial to a ship named after you?  
Were you the first commodore of the Continental Navy?  
Did Guy Pearce play you in a recent award-winning movie?

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### Author: ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/77 "2012-05-24T16:57:10Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Do you spend most of your time onstage pointlessly, almost absurdly, arguing with Vladimir?
> 
> IQ2: Are you the title character of an opera by Donizetti?
> 
> IQ3: Are you the bishop who baptized Constantine?

I’m not Estragon, but you get two more DQs for your other questions.

> [@Elendil's Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Does a Detroit church include a memorial to a ship named after you?  
> Were you the first commodore of the Continental Navy?  
> Did Guy Pearce play you in a recent award-winning movie?

I’m neither Edmund Fitzgerald nor Edward VIII. Take a DQ for the naval commander.

> [@Elendil's Heir](#):
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> Novelist?  
> First name start with E?

I am a novelist. I should have noted in my previous answer that there are no misleading answers so far in this round - it’s just something I always do so that when issues happen it’s not immediately obvious. So yes, my first name begins with E, but you can take another DQ if you wish.

DQs:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not currently living.
4. I am known for my contributions to the arts.
5. I am American.
6. I am noted more for authorship (writing, painting, composition, etc.) than for performance.
7. I was not born after 1900.
8. I am not noted for my creation of motion pictures or television.
9. My last name does not start with E (and my first name does begin with E).
10. I died before May 23, 1962.
11. I did write prose.
12. I was a novelist.

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### Author: ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/78 "2012-05-24T17:10:42Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Do you spend most of your time onstage pointlessly, almost absurdly, arguing with Vladimir?
> 
> IQ2: Are you the title character of an opera by Donizetti?
> 
> IQ3: Are you the bishop who baptized Constantine?

> [@Enginerd](#):
>
> I’m not Estragon, but you get two more DQs for your other questions.

Quite right with **Estragon** - was that a **Luckey** guess? 😃

1. We moderns know her as Elizabeth I, but Rossini named the opera “ **Elizabetta, Regina d’Inghilterra** ”. I disqualify myself from a DQ because a shiny object went by and I confused Donizetti for Rossini. I anticipate a visit from the Opera Police at any moment, and I may lose my geek card… The overture that we think of as ‘The Barber of Seville’ is actually the overture to Elizabetta, Regina d’Inghilterra, and I should have had that on the forefront of my mind.

2. The bishop who baptized Constantine was **Eusebius**.

So -

DQ: Were you born aften 1800?

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### Author: ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/79 "2012-05-24T17:12:15Z")

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IQ1: Papa?

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### Author: ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-part-whatever/622653/80 "2012-05-24T17:20:04Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Quite right with **Estragon** - was that a **Luckey** guess? 😃

Booooo! I was going to dock you a DQ for that, but since you did it yourself I’ll let it slide. 😉

> [@](#):
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> DQ: Were you born aften 1800?

Yes.  
DQs:

1. I am real.
2. I am male.
3. I am not currently living.
4. I am known for my contributions to the arts.
5. I am American.
6. I am noted more for authorship (writing, painting, composition, etc.) than for performance.
7. I was not born after 1900.
8. I am not noted for my creation of motion pictures or television.
9. My last name does not start with E (and my first name does begin with E).
10. I died before May 23, 1962.
11. I did write prose.
12. I was a novelist.
13. I was born after 1800.

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